Monday, May 10, 2010

Coaching in 1978

I had a great conversation with a buddy of mine today. We were talking about Pat Quinn and his future with the Oilers, and then discussing Tom Renney along with wondering if Charlie Huddy might return next season. Anyway, we eventually got around to talking about the all-time great coaches in NHL history. Bowman, Arbour, Roger Neilson, Bob Johnson, and on it goes. We know these men were brilliant at their jobs and we also know that Orval Tessier, Garry Young and Bert Olmstead don't belong on a list of good coaches.

I think we have a lot to learn from coaches and how they handle the myriad problems and decisions that must be made in an NHL season. On this blog, we've had some fun looking at Quinn and Renney (before they were hired by the Oilers) in an effort to understand the game a little better. Of course, one of the favorite subjects on this blog was Craig MacTavish; there are 50 entries on the subject and studying MacT taught me a lot about the game.

It is such a fascinating area of the game. Right now we have a team (Montreal) even up with another team that should have finished them off long ago, but coaching plan married with execution is a deadly thing. There's a long way to go in understanding coaching strategy (what IS the answer for the Habs forecheck? Could Lubo help?) but it is also true that we're miles ahead of yesterday.

Here's what the hockey world told fans about the big league coaches 32 years ago (summer 1978).
  1. Scotty Bowman, Montreal: He is a taskmaster who demands perfection. Now 45, he once said he didn't expect to coach past 50. Bought 240 acres of land near a small lake and he intends to be a farmer.
  2. Bobby Kromm, Detroit: He was inherited by GM Ted Lindsay, as he was signed on by Lindsay's predecessor Alex Delvecchio when his Winnipeg (WHA) contract expired.
  3. Johnny Wilson, Pittsburgh: Strong and inspirational disciplinarian. He earned plaudits as coach of Canada's entry at last year's World Championships. He made an immediate impression on the Pens last year by putting them through the most physical training camp of their history.
  4. Bob Berry, Los Angeles: Jack Kent Cooke said "Berry was my first choice." His entire coaching experience consists of 20 games in the minors (Springfield). Believes Fred Shero is that last real coaching innovator.
  5. Tom McVie, Washington: McVie isn't glued to old ways. At training camp he had a machine that shot tennis balls at his goaltenders at 85MPH every three seconds.
  6. Don Cherry, Boston: A master manipulator of his players and the press. He knows what he wants and doesn't mess around. He doesn't want stars on his team, prefering what he calls the "working class."
  7. Roger Neilson, Toronto: His approach is as unorthodox as the manner in which he accepted the Toronto job. He gave his okay on the telephone from Johannnesburg, South Africa, where he was visiting a friend. He relies heavily on videotape to review games. He is defensive minded.
  8. Marcel Pronovost, Buffalo: A tough disciplinarian from the old school. Carries a briefcase filled with charts, notes and statistics. Some of his current players call him a good teacher.
  9. Harry Howell, Minnesota: Works on an even keel. Was not a crunching type defender, got the job done with an acute sense of positioning which he will urge on his young North Stars.
  10. Al Arbour, NYI: Employs defensive system that puts a premium on blocked shots. Gives written tests to his players on strategy.
  11. Bob McCammon, Philadelphia: Will have to work hard to get the confidence of Flyers players after their roller coaster ride with Fred Shero.
  12. Fred Shero, NYR: Inventive, secretive, off-beat. Likes to wear rumpled raincoat and tinted glasses which make him look like an undercover agent. A try anything strategist. Players complain they do not understand him.
  13. Fred Creighton, Atlanta: Fiesty, ornery guy who doesn't tolerate silly mistakes. Can be heard screaming at team after losses. Likes a physical style with emphasis on positioning. Willing to give rookies a chance.
  14. Bob Pulford, Chicago: Also GM. Demanding and tireless. Runs grueling practices and has cerebral approach to the game. Admirer of football coach George Allen, he stresses defense.
  15. Pat Kelly, Colorado: Salty, tough guy who played for Eddie Shore.
  16. Harry Neale, Vancouver: Jogging devotee runs 5 miles a day. Coached Ohio State 66-70.
  17. Barcley Plager, St. Louis: Credited with developing young players Bob Hess, Bernie Federko and Brian Sutter.
  18. Jacques Demers, Quebec (WHA): Likes his teams to play disciplined, defensive hockey. Brutally honest.
  19. Larry Hillman, Winnipeg (WHA): A player's coach if there ever was one. Strictly his own man in the way he does things. Low profile coach who consults his captain before making any big decisions. Admirer of Punch Imlach.
  20. Bill Dineen, New England (WHA): Personable coach, very good with young players.
  21. Glen Sather, Edmonton (WHA): Bright and dynamic, he's livened up the Edmonton scene. Nosy behind the bench. Studied child psychology. Saved the lives of two Edmonton teenagers last winter when their car went off a road, rolled down an embankment and caught fire. Disciple of Sam Pollock.
  22. Pat Stapleton, Indianapolis (WHA): Has six kids.
  23. John Brophy, Birmingham (WHA): Loathes would be scoring champions who refuse to check. A big part of young Rod Langway's quick progress. Preaches disciplined, defensive hockey.
I think those written tests Al Arbour gave his Islanders might have been an idea worth using for the 2009-10 Edmonton Oilers. If you're going to play in the NHL before you're ready, you might as well learn something.

67 comments:

  1. How do you know if a student has:

    a) not understood the concept
    b) understood the concept, but is unable to apply it
    c) understood the concept and can independently apply it
    d) is unwilling to participate in class, therefore rendering accurate measurement impossible.

    Some form of assessment is necessary. Sharpen your pencils Seguin, Eberle et al.

    Aside: It's kinda fun slotting players into each of the groups. Robert Nilsson anyone???

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  2. This isn't related to this blog post (sorry!) but I'm a huge fan of your blog and just wanted to share with you some suggestions. I can't find a contact link or e-mail anywhere though!

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  3. Looks like Eberle will be getting into the worlds by the end of the week, anyone else noticed they play "summer of '69" after ever Canada goal? are they gonna play "waterloo" after every Sweden goal?

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  4. nice article.

    totally off topic :: you should see iron man 2, LT. you'll enjoy it.

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  5. 4 comments and 3 completely off topic...this threads really off and rolling!

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  6. I do wonder if Quinn is the right man for the job with a total re-build staring him in the face. Tempermant, philosophy, vision.

    If you think back to why he was brought in (along w/Renny last year), the supositions are out the window. This was not a playoff contender but a team in need of FEMA. Has that really changed as we get ready for 2010/11?

    You can argue a healthy Hemsky and two of Seguin/Hall, MPS, Eberle and Omark (if they go 3 they're smoking the drapes) will make the team better to watch, but we're no closer to competing for a playoff spot. Especially when Khabibulin breaks down again.

    LT, would love to see you do one of these for the GM's.

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  7. Stapleton entry should win an award for most succinct thesis on suitability for coaching.

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  8. Jfry: Taking my son, probably on the long weekend.

    oilerdago: I don't know if there's enough info for GMs. I could do Sam Pollock's "in a box" blindfolded so maybe that's a place to start.

    eric: You can email me at jbabcook@shaw.ca if you'd like. That's my wifes email so please refrain from innovative spellings of Montreal please and thanks (I'm looking at you, Dennis). :-)

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  9. Gregor at ON had a piece that included speculation about OTC:

    There is a clear disconnect between Quinn and his players. They didn’t like his system, or lack thereof, and how he delivered the message, and he didn’t think they were enough guys committed to playing his style.

    The more people I talk to, and the more keyholes I listen at, it seems more likely that Quinn won’t be behind the bench next season. The big question is how will Tambellini go about this?


    Hmmmmmmm.

    If that happens, I'd love to see Chuckles Huddy back running the D, but would he come?

    I wager that Sather is waiting for the end of the World Championships to fire Torts and hire MacTavish.

    If that happens, does Chuckles go with him to NYC?

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  10. i personally would like to see Tom Renney as our head coach next year.

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  11. and i wish Huddy would come back, but would he? good question!

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  12. Have you heard anything about him being unhappy in Dallas, Woodguy? It seems somewhat... ungrateful... to leave for greener pastures after one season.

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  13. If the goal is true assessment for Tambo, what better way to get it done than roll 4 lines relentlessly?

    Doubt it was done with that purpose, but a few exceeded expectations (Penner, Brule, Pouliot). Some disappointed (Nilsson, POS, Horcoff??)

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  14. I'd be stunned if Huddy came back to work for Tambellini given all that happened.

    I think Renny's tempermant is just right given the re-build. He may or may not be here to see it bear fruit, but he doesn't tend to over-react which will be just right for the kids development (if Gregor's correct).

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  15. he doesn't tend to over-react which will be just right for the kids development - if Gregor's correct

    That if you highlight is kind of a big one. Kind of like "Khabbibulin will be our 1G if he's on the wagon and not in prison"

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  16. Schitzo,

    Haven't heard anything, but LT was speculating the same thing in the OP.

    Working with Marc Crawford might be enough to drive him away. :-)

    Can't find exactly what his contract is, but a couple of articles allude to 3 years being the term.

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  17. I think Renny's tempermant is just right given the re-build.

    "Tempermant"? What does his temperament have to do with anything?

    Renney is an actual tactician. If you look at his time in New York, he spent the entire time shielding his young players, maximizing the matchups for his real NHL'ers and giving his offensive guys large amounts of offensive zone starts.

    He regularly had a top 1/3 penalty kill even though Lundqvist has been credited as the reason for his success.

    He's developed young defensemen from the ground up (Girardi) in a way that would be useful to the Oilers (Smid, Peckham and Petry) and he's used limited young centermen (Dubinsky) in a sheltered role to make them effective NHL players that would benefit the Oilers (Vande Velde). He's done so by using a one-dimensional NHL center to take on tough assignments (Betts) though the Oilers have been in need of one of those for years.

    His downfall is that he wasn't a firebrand and didn't get upset by losses, so the Rangers canned him and brought in a guy that regularly gets out-coached, but at least he yells at people during press conferences!

    Renney is pretty much the same coach as MacTavish, without the 2008-2009 crazy. And this team really needs the pre-2008-2009 MacTavish back in the worst way.

    Temperament? Forget the traditional meaningless hockeyspeak. Bring in a coach that understands tactics in the NHL in 2010.

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  18. How do you know if a student has:

    a) not understood the concept
    b) understood the concept, but is unable to apply it
    c) understood the concept and can independently apply it
    d) is unwilling to participate in class, therefore rendering accurate measurement impossible.


    As a teacher those are simple problems:
    a) they cannot explain the concept back to you
    b)when you give the student a performance task to demonstrate what they know
    c)ditto
    d) that's just frickin' obvious. The better question is why have they shut down on you. Personal choice or have they just reached the level of their actual ability (and then how do you get them to work to their strengths).

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  19. Coach:

    I hear what you're saying (bring in a tactician who knows what they're doing) and could not agree more.

    But I offer tempermant as being an important part of it too because the man doesn't blow a gasket (a la Keenan) for every stupid thing that a young kid will do.

    And young kids will make mistakes.

    So yes, you need someone who understands game situations and how to protect the young from being eaten (and match lines - all stuff OTC does not like doing). At the same time the coach can't be losing the room flying off the handle when kids make mistakes that they do.

    My only concern w/Renny is that he's too easy going - which if I'm not mistaken was one of the issues in NY at the end of his run there.

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  20. I'm not a Renney for HC fan because I think he believes he can win on tactics alone; yet I don't see the record to show he can despite previous chances.

    I think he's great to have in a team environment, but not as the leader.

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  21. Vince: Waterloo after Sweden's goals? Why not, GM PLace did that during the Olympics.

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  22. Well using no tactics didn't seem to work out very well, perhaps we should try a coach who does.

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  23. I believe the list tells us that we want a coach who is also a farmer.
    Or something.

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  24. Love the premium on blocked shots re: Arbour.

    Martin is giving Bylsma a run for his money, altough having Subban finally land on the roster kinda helped, but as Tyler noted in his game #5 recap, I can't help but wonder if they, y'know, aren't a bit *too* defensive minded for the personnel they have.

    Bylsma actually comes out as the superior coach to my untrained eye; he can get the Penguins to play both an efficient defensive or offensive game, depending on the situation. It seems the big flaw in his game is that Malkin is drawing iron like there is no tomorrow. Dude is pulling a Semin out there...

    Guy Boucher is Montreal's secret weapon (with Hamilton right now); every kid coming up this year has done something good, hell even Kostitsyn the younger looked focused for a while! The NHL club able to woo him will land a nice coach methink and I know Quinn wanted him in EDM after working with him at some WJC...

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  25. That's awesome LT and reminds me of those old style hockey cards from the 70s as well.

    Am rereading a hockey anthology I have and one of the sections is Fred Shero explaining his bible of coaching as well as a number of other ideas he has.

    Totally interesting and totally weird. He had a quote every day and seriously some of these were so obscure and convoluted. I could just imagine the Kelly brothers and Moose Dupont staring blankly at the blackboard.

    Also love the line about Neilson being unconventional because he was in South Africa.

    Awesome

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  26. speeds,

    to continue the waiver convo from yesterday... (if that's okay with everyone)

    I just read your post about Matt Lashoff needing to clear waivers.

    I dunno, speeds, that's a helluva conundrum. The Article seems to state that even if Peckham was a 19 year old draftee (would he have been eligible the year prior?), he would still be considered 19 when he signed, although it isn't terribly specific on this matter.

    Certainly if the Lashoff example applies, the Oilers would be getting screwed out of a year of exemption, if he was only draft eligible the year he was actually taken (as would the other 39 teams). No?

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  27. I believe the list tells us that we want a coach who is also a farmer. Or something.

    There's a rancher down the road who may come available if the shit hits the fan with ownership in an unexpected way, but I bet he'd rather go back to Red Deer and rescue his other team from the major-junior crapheap.

    Of course, I think there are a few people here who would rather hire the local bike salesman, but I'd rather watch paint dry, myself.

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  28. For them that can:

    SWE vs FRA on Sopcast

    sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/76355

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  29. * sorry other 29 teams.

    Damn this posting and working is tough.
    ;o)

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  30. Also want to say that I would not want to rely on The Braintrust for interpretation of the CBA.

    Wonderful list, btw, LT. I seem to remember reading that same list back in the day, or something eerily similar. What is the source?

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  31. spOILer & speeds:

    For all intents and purposes, Peckham was still considered 18 when he was drafted, as he was still in his first year of eligibility.

    He was 19 when he signed his ELC (age at Sept 15, 2007). His late birthday, however, allowed him to report to Springfield rather than returning to Junior, but also precludes him from an extension of his ELC (despite not playing 11 NHL games at 19yo).

    For the purposes of waivers, Peckham will be 23 years old this year (extension of 13.4 "age 21 means a Player reaching his twenty-first birthday in the calendar year of the Entry Draft"). His 'years from signing' will be 4 this season since a 'year of exemption means a playing season', and this is his 4th playing season.

    From what I can tell, speeds is correct. Like Lashoff, Peckham loses a year of waiver eligibility due to his birthdate. However, his birthdate also allowed him to play in the AHL a season earlier than most, so he doesn't lose a playing 'season' of waiver exemption.

    Either way, looks like Theo will be here next winter, as there is no chance he clears waivers.

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  32. 1-0 SWE after 1.

    In the running for the ugliest goal ever.

    Omark and MPS both playing. Harju also made the Swedish team.

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  33. Omark just had a hell of a shift.

    Won some battles and protected the puck well against much larger men.
    As far as seeing someone good, this is a good game to watch Linus.

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  34. Gare Joyce just posted an entry on the Espn NHL draft blog. He thinks the Oilers should be drafting Taylor Hall and it would be a mistake to take Seguin.

    There's actually a bunch of pretty good articles on there although you need ESPN Insider to read.

    If anyone's interested in reading it I can E-mail the article or possibly post it here although not sure if LT would want me to.

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  35. There was something said by Hrudey last night about Arbour too. Something about him having a whole system of fines for behaviours not conducive to winning.

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  36. 3-0 SWE after 2. Omark w/ 2A

    MPS playing with Weinhandl and Wallin (Zetterberg's spot?) up until the last shift of the period when he was out without them.

    Agreed Black Gold, Omark has outstanding vision.

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  37. Ninja Steve,

    Would like to read that, not an insider.

    can you send a copy to egg_cooker@hotmail.com?

    For anyone sending hate mail to that address, I rarely check that addy... :)

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  38. Ninja Steve:

    Just read the article, Joyce said Hall has more experience and is more NHL ready. Not sure it was the most compelling argument...

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  39. Bob Arctor - I don't disagree with you. I haven't seen that much of either guy but I thought it was interesting that he stated it would mistake if the Oilers didn't draft Hall. The wording I thought was a bit definitive. It's only his opinion obviously but he's probably seen a lot of both guys.

    Woodguy - Just sent it

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  40. Thanks NS.

    Hmmp.

    He really doesn't make a great case. He talks mostly of Hall's experience and how great the Windor program is at producing high end NHL talent.

    He then has a sweeping statement at the end (if I'm allowed to post it)

    Taylor Hall is ready on experience. He's ready because of his environment. He's closer to the NHL than Seguin. Maybe Edmonton will go a different direction. The record will show a lot of dubious drafts by the team over the years. But if the Oilers do go for Seguin over Hall, they'll be making a mistake.

    Which is way out of character of the article.

    Strange.

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  41. I don't know. Bylsma only seems to be a good coach when Gonchar is in the lineup. It seemed to be his predecessor's problem as well, because he went from Jack Adams candidate to unemployed after losing #55 for most of a season.

    I wonder who the coach will be at Christmas next year if Gonchar doesn't re-sign.

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  42. I'd root for Tom Renney too. I think he maximised the potential of some teams who shoudn't have been to the playoffs, and has a very good PK. (Something the Oil badly needs.

    Then again i also root for Guy Boucher, won the QJMHL last year, is doing dandy in the AHL playoffs this year. He helped a lot of guys of track get back on them, notably guys like Hoffman, Riendeau, Kostitsyn. And then helped some guys continue to maximise theyr potential. It's rare to have 2 22 years old undrafted kids to be high profile AHL'ers (Desharnais+Trotter). They say he's very good with the kids and takes time to go talk to each one of them individually, and what is theyr goal, and help them achieve it, a sports psychologist.

    I think he would do a fine job develloping the kids on this team, and giving them opportunities to shine.

    You can see a great difference from TC P.K Subban and the actual player. I think he did a great job with him to gain experience. His AHL year definitly improved him a lot.

    I still hate Montreal's media who tought it was an error to let him down that much. He just benefited from that, contrary to the thesis he was slowed down.

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  43. "They've told me just to be ready," said Eberle. "With Smytty out, hopefully I'll be in the lineup. They just told me to stay ready -- you're going to get your chance." - Jordan Eberle

    Looks like it's actually going to happen. Cool beans.

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  44. If there's a trophy in the NHL for biggest douche, Crosby should win it hands down.

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  45. If I had my choice I would go with a young coach fresh out of junior. Some no-name that is happy to be the lowest paid coach in the NHL and doesn't give a rats ass what these players did two or three years ago.

    I want someone that has an eye for a talent but more importantly someone who is willing to sacrifice two points to win four down the road.

    I don't know about Renney but I honestly think the only reason O'Sullivan was rewarded with PP minutes all year long is because he is Irish. Quinn really needs to go.

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  46. If there's a trophy in the NHL for biggest douche, Crosby should win it hands down.

    See Cooke, Matt; Bertuzzi, Todd...

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  47. @FPB: Pourquoi? I mean, I saw that he started some shit with Gionta at the end of last night's game (which was fantastic viewing from start to finish, incidentally), but he's not even top 20 given some of the fine upstanding gentlemen employed in our national game.

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  48. Doogie: Because everytime there's something not called on him, he just turns around waving his arms like it's the end of the world. Starting shit in almost every scrap when it's largely unecessary.

    And that douchy way he spoke of the scrap with Gorges, like he shouldn't go defend his teamate who's getting mugged by Crosby after the end of the game.

    Oh that and Punching Boris Valabik in the back of the head and in the balls while Letang was holding him in a scrum.

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  49. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqR17KrLKw

    I mean check that... he should have gotten suspended.

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  50. So if the internet would have been around in 1985, would this be like the whining about Gretzky?

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  51. Schitzo, if you can point out to me the time when Gretzky threw cheapshot punches from behind on a guy who was already tangled up with another player, then we can start talking about what an asshole Gretzky was. There's bound to be some bitching about a superstar who's not on your team, but Crosby gets a free pass on a lot of shit just because he's "Sid the Kid". Even Ovechkin is starting to take some heat for some of the dirty shit he pulls. Would be nice if he wasn't the only one.

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  52. So if the internet would have been around in 1985, would this be like the whining about Gretzky?

    The internet was not needed, this kind of irrational crap was around then. The one good thing about it is that the minute you hear someone say something like Gretzky's a loser or Crosby's a douche - you can safely slot that person as someone who doesn't appreciate success. In my observation they spend much of their life blaming other people for their own failures.

    Watch out FPV - you are on a bad trajectory!

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  53. Bookie: Anyone who punches a guy in the balls while he's tangled up or not gets an automatic seal of douchery.

    That's a No-No.

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  54. Two of the absolute dirtiest players of all time were Gordie Howe and Mark Messier.

    Bobby Orr, Ted Lindsay, Maurice Richard, Stan Mikita, Eddie Shore, Art Ross (yes the Art Ross), Doug Harvey, Bob Clarke.

    That's off the top of my head. A who's who of the game's greatest players. Some of them out and out thugs. Others with vicious tempers. Mikita was the dirtiest prick going when he came into the league and I've read (just today actually) about Art Ross clubbing a guy over the head in a brawl and Harvey spearing an unsuspecting opponent in revenge for an earlier slight when said opponent had no idea it was coming.

    So I'm not too worried about Sid punching some guy in the bag. I'd take him on my team and all the rest of those guys too.

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  55. Black Dogs: Yeah sure... but i mean... punching someone in the balls while he's being held by another ?

    Jeez.

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  56. fpb - absolutely a dirty play, you'll get no argument from me there

    but most of the guys I mentioned were out and out vicious

    great story about Howe and Mikita, Mikita had just come into the league, he was a dirty dirty player, a terrific player but awful with his stick, just filthy

    so one of his first games against the Wings he clips Howe, cuts him open and then on top of that needles him about being too old to play any more

    Howe doesn't do anything. Next game, nothing. A couple of games after that Mikita is skating through centre. Next thing he knows he's flat on his back. He gets up and wobbles back to the bench. Nobody saw what happened except the backup goalie.

    Howe had cut across and as he and Mikita passed each other he had held his glove under his arm and then sucker punched Mikita, slipping his hand back into his glove after he went by.

    Punching a guy in the nuts is uncool and if I saw it happening to a teammate I'd go nuts.

    But these oldtime guys were out to maim guys. They didn't fuck around. Game is a lot tamer now although Ovechkin has a little bit of that vicious side to him I think.

    Giving a guy a shot in the junk is kids' stuff, in comparison I mean.

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  57. Black Dog: Agreed. Tough i think it should stay 1 on 1. That was especially unecessar since Valabik most certainly didn't cut Crosby in the face, and he was already tangled up by Letang.

    If you want to play a dirty game, do it fairly. (Well as fair as trading cheap blows can be).

    I don't understand all that shit in hockey. A great bodycheck slamming into the boards on open ice catching him with his head down is as effective as clipping a guy.

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  58. I brought this up back when I saw MacT still gushing over the Oilers on the TSN panel and if my hunch is correct you'd imagine some of the real journalists - or maybe even Brownlee - would say they heard it but it wouldn't shock me in the least if MacTavish returned behind the Oilers bench.

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  59. fpb - well you play right? you know how it is. you're right, a clean bodycheck should be the way to go about it but the game has a long history of violence and intimidation, its just the way.

    All it takes is one guy. I have a temper but I'm not one to take cheap shots at guys for the most part but ....

    A number of years ago in our summer league there was a team that totally gooned it up. Checks (it was noncontact), stickwork, everything and nonstop trashtalk.

    If we had good refs they spent their entire game in the box, if we did not it would turn ugly very fast.

    We had one game and my first shift I get slew footed right in front of their net, ref is right there. I look up. No call. I get up and I spear buddy right in the bag.

    He went down. Again no call.

    Now he didn't bother me again the rest of the game first of all. But the die had been cast. The game was a mess. You put sticks in the hands of guys in a game where collisions are happening and tempers get hot, shit is going to happen.

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  60. Pat: you did that, *you*? Reading your blog, I wouldn't think!

    Competitive sports are what they are, especially at the top level: once shit hits the fan, you get away with murder. I mean, that Crosby is a whiny dirty prick is a plus in my book. What we hear a lot around town (MTL) is that a guy like Joe Sakic would never do that. Well, he certainly was a model citizen while I rooted for the Nordiques, and they did get the shaft year in year out. But Adam Foote was (and still is) a dirty rotten bastard. And I won't even try to qualify the yound Owen Nolan's behaviour. This one was a beauty. A Nolan-Rucinsky-Sundin second line was pretty good too :).

    My point is: Hal Fucking Gill is shutting down Crosby. That means one, and only one thing: the refs aren't calling shit right now.

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  61. Black Dog: Yeah it gets ugly sometimes. But i'm a pretty strong guy so i just check them into landstar when that happens. The only time i do a dirty trick and it's slashing. Either if the goalie punches me in the back of the head i'l piss of the D so he shoves me into him, or or if i get slashed or boarded i'l answer back with a shot behind the leg.

    But heh. I mean we're junior hockey and theyr grown adults. Logic would tell me they learned something.

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  62. LT your blog never ceases to amaze and entertain me.

    I was just reading the comments about playing "Waterloo" after Swedish goals and my first thought was, "What the hell does a Stonewall Jackson song have to do with Sweden?"

    Then I slapped my forehead like those V-8 commercials.

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