Tuesday, May 11, 2010

The Return of the Coke Machine

I believe we're heading for a "Coke Machine" draft and we are absolutely in the Coke Machine 2.0 era since 2000. In the beginning, the Oilers under Kevin Prendergast began drafting big kids (mostly wingers) out of position. In fact, the first official selection by Prendergast was 2000's 2nd round and Brad Winchester. Here, let me take a minute to post the group:
  • 2000-#35-C Brad Winchester, 6'5, 210.
  • 2001-#52-C Eddie Caron, 6'2, 230.
  • 2002-#79-LW Brock Radunske, 6'4, 199.
  • 2003-#51-RW Colin McDonald, 6'2, 190.
  • 2003-#68-LW JF Jacques, 6'3.5, 217.
  • 2003-#94-RW Zach Stortini, 6'4, 225.
  • 2004-#57-C Geoff Paukovich, 6'4, 207.
Now it is important to note that these kids were projected to be actual players. No goons, just big men who could handle themselves and even the playing field for the smaller skilled men who played alongside. I had a look at the group here and I think we can say with some authority that the Oilers overpaid for the group. 2003's draft was especially costly in this area, with Colin McDonald and JF Jacques both being selected when there was pure quality available.

After the lockout, the Oilers spent some time pursuing the "new NHL player" who was smaller and more skilled. 2005's draft featured small, cerebral picks like Andrew Cogliano and Taylor Chorney. During this period they did take a player who I've always counted as a Coke Machine (Chris Vande Velde) but he's more skill than brawn so we'll have to count him as being on the outskirts of the family. Don't be fooled about him, though. I sincerely believe VV will surprise people at the pro level with his grit and skill.

In last year's draft the club selected Cameron Abney, but I don't count him as a Coke Machine. Abney is more of a fighter, well this side of someone like Zack Stortini (if you don't believe me compare their junior scoring resume's).

I think we're heading back to Coke Machines. I've already suggested that the Oilers will select Tyler Seguin #1 and attempt to trade up for Dylan Mcilrath later in the first round. Now I'm prepared to tell you about the player (or at least player type) the Oilers will spend an "out of place" draft pick on this summer. A coke machine. I've chosen Cody Beach because I saw him on television and he's big (6.05, 185) and gave out crushing body checks every time I watched him play. He's a Coke Machine, and the Oilers are going to pick one at the 2010 Entry Draft.

116 comments:

  1. Would the streak of drafting smaller cerebral players have continued if Colborne would have still been on the board in 2008?

    I think that was my biggest sigh of relief. Boston saved us from ourselves.

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  2. The one good thing about having a one faceted strategy is that its easy to keep your focus and not become confused¡

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  3. Schitzo: That's a good point. On the subject of "saving us for ourselves" I was doing some reading on Tom Renney this weekend and believe he was coach when the club chose Huge Specimen.

    Dun duh DUN DUN!!!

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  4. Blue Jays are starting to look like the Blue Jays again.

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  5. I don't think that comparing Cameron Abney's and Zorg's numbers give an correct understanding on what they where drafts as:

    Abney
    17 years old - 4 GP, 0 Pts. 0 PiMs
    18 years old (Draft year)- 48 GP, 4 Pts, 103PiMs
    19 years old- 64 GP, 13 Pts, 123 PiMs

    Zorg
    17 years old - 65GP 14Pts 187 PiMs
    18 years old (draft Year)- 62Gp 29Pts 222 PiMs
    19 years old- 62Gp 37 Pts 151 PiMs

    I think it is clear that Zorg was expected to be a better player the Albany.
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    Don't care if Tambo and Stu waste a 3rd or above picks on coke machines, but we need a solid three players in the first two rounds for a rebuild. I say after 4, just draft overage euros, goalies, and coke machines.

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  6. BCB,

    Don't forget giant USHL bound Dmen.

    Hesketh has a few years to grow more and get better.

    That might be a really good pick.

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  7. The best explanation of the Abney pick was offered by I think Linnaeus, who said the Oilers scout(s) projected him as Terry O'Reilly. In related news, every once in a while an 8th place hitter can swing from the heels and go yard, but much more often the results won't be pretty.

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  8. ...so we'll have to count him as being on the outskirts of the family.

    These are the kind of players that I think they really should be looking for when they are plunking their quarters into the machine. The big bruisers just don't pan out enough to make them worth it. Get the slightly bigger guys who can play. Let them figure out the physical game after as they go. It's gotta be easier than teaching a guy how to read a play or make a pass. And who knows, maybe they grow an unexpected inch or two along the way.

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  9. Cody Beach huh? meh! add him to Cam Abney and any other paluka we've drafted in the "maybe he can be the tough player we've been looking for" column.

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  10. Cody Beach? Another Coke Machine??

    We need this like a hole in the head.

    Oy.

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  11. Jesus Coke Machines.

    Just draft the BPA. It's a bad strategy that hasn't worked out often. (Or at all)

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  12. As long as they wait until after the #61 pick, I'll be okay with it.

    Lucic went 50th.

    Anyone (LT?) know how Kevin Stevens was only a 6th round pick in 1983?

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  13. Deano: Hockey DB doesn't mention any league in the draft year. Probably played in a minor league which made his stock drop.

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  14. Skating was an issue, I remember that much.

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  15. Lucic was a decent pick at 50.

    His contract at over 4MM/yr is just over twice what he's worth though.

    Horrid contract.

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  16. Woodguy: That's really blind luck for the Bruins. Perfect definition of a late bloomer.

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  17. Yeah, but Lucic isn't worth anywhere near 4 per season, especially on a Bruins team that's already tight up against the cap.

    Luckily they have an affordable young goalie that has the pedigree and look of a world beater and a high 2nd overall pick this draft to replenish the talent they're going to have to trade or lose to free agency.

    If only the Leafs had a Tuuka Rask and 2nd overall pick...it would really help with their rebuild =).

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  18. The best explanation of the Abney pick was offered by I think Linnaeus, who said the Oilers scout(s) projected him as Terry O'Reilly.

    Yes, but they didn't stop to think "Terry O'Reilly is 58 years old and retired". That's the problem right there. I have the conditioning and speed of Gordie Howe, but nobody is drafting me!

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  19. Anyone thinks Philadelphia has a chance to pull the upset? (Coming down from 3-0)

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  20. An owner with bottomless pockets might offer a decent player mabe a reasonable prospect as well (not Hesmky/Penner, MPS) in exchange for taking 2OV Thomas and Ryder.

    Ryder can play with the Oilers for 1 year and one of Thomas or Khabby could solidify OKC starting goaltending for 3 years,

    Might be risky to send Khabby down as he has made enough money that he might quit...might be better to send Thomas down.

    If you pass a +35 player through waivers and then they retire, that shouldn't count against the cap correct?
    Hand Chiarelli a pile of cap space and free him from the Thomas contract right in his window of challenging for the cup....that might get it done.

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  21. WG - We're stuck with Khabby on the cap in OKC or KHL. I think the only outs are LTIR and the behavior clause. He's only up for a misdemeanor.

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  22. On a Baseball sidenote: Damn, Jason Heyward looks like the best pure swinger since Griffey Jr or Rodriguez.

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  23. According to CapGeek Thomas is 35+ also.

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  24. LT:

    What's your take on Teemu Hartikainen? Coke machine that made a deal with Thor for some hands?

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  25. I was going to say gleefully that the Nucks are about to burn another year of Luongo, but at .899 that may be an inaccurate statement.

    If their drafting a coke machine make it a D. Bfuglialphabet. Drafted 245th in 2003. Although he was drafted as a D-man.

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  26. I poked through the CBA to see what the language pertaining to terminating a SPC in regards to Khabibulins case... I think from what I read, should Bulin be incarcerated and unable to attend any formal team even such as training camp or games, then they should be within their rights in terminating the SPC.


    14. The Club may also terminate this SPC upon written notice to the Player (but only after
    obtaining Waivers from all other Clubs) if the Player shall at anytime:
    (a) fail, refuse, or neglect to obey the Club's rules governing training and conduct of
    Players, if such failure, refusal or neglect should constitute a material breach of this SPC.
    (b) fail, refuse or neglect to render his services hereunder or in any other manner
    materially breach this SPC.



    I seem to recall though, Mark Bell being sentenced to a jail term, however it was structured so he could complete the season and serve his time during the summer. I'm assuming making him forfeit a million bucks or more in order to serve his time was considered too heavy a price.

    Bulin should get what he deserves (whatever that is) and I would consider it a gratuitous break should it enable EDM to slip out of his SPCs backdoor.

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  27. That's why you put Thomas in the minors, he probably can't walk away from $15MM, whereas Khabby might walk from $10MM.

    All assuming bottom pit o' cash.

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  28. that's a good point, uni....Seguin/Hall will more than likely be able to step in this year, so if the Bruins have to lose a player because of the cap, they might be just fine.

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  29. dorito: Yeah, I'd say Hartikainen is similar to Vande Velde in that he has decent size and grit (along with skill). His PIM's aren't on a VV level but the scouting reports have him as a physical player.

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  30. So how do we fit the extra $5MM/season for an AHL goalie under our NHL cap?

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  31. The fat lady is singing on the left coast.

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  32. So. A SJS-CHI semi-final is going to be a fun one.

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  33. LT, I think there are going to be lots and lots of goals ! Last team that scores wins ! lol

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  34. The winner probably won't be beat up too bad either.

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  35. Only one more loss tomorrow night to make this season about as good as it could be while finishing at #30.

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  36. If Thomas shows up for work every day in the AHL, he still counts against the NHL cap?

    I thought it only stuck if they retired, and no buy out.

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  37. And the league's most arrogant team of pricks heads home again.

    Happy, happy day.

    Eff you 'nuck fan.

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  38. Best of luck to the Vancouver Canucks this off-season.

    I will dearly miss those green men however. I hope they return.

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  39. Deano,

    Opps.

    The contract cap hit is only reduced by $100K if a 35+ contract is sent to the minors.

    Nothing like exposing your ignorance.

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  40. No worroes. Those 35+ contracts are killers. Biron was the safe choice. I wonder if he refused to come here.

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  41. I prefer Pepsi:)

    LT: did u get back to watching the nats as you had alluded to earlier? I am a little bit back to reading the Wsh papers but I'm more of a Rays fan now than anything else though not really in the grand scheme of fandom like I was with the Expos.

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  42. Dennis: The Nationals are never on television out here; I caught a pre-season game and that was about it.

    I do get the late Dodger games and have caught SF's ridiculous pitching staff. I'm loving the Braves being shitty, though. Bobby Cox must be in a pissy mood all day. :-)

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  44. Posted from my mom's computer, so I was logged in as her the first time. Can you kill my deleted message? Sorry LT.

    Beach's regular season numbers: 51 GP, 3-11-14, +6 (on a team that was +92), 157 PIM.

    Not quite Zorg, but not quite Cam O'Reilly, either. I've seen him a fair bit (obviously), don't mind him as a late-rounder, I guess, but I'd rather they take a flyer on a flawed skill guy, more often than not. Size without offensive pedigree is easy to come by.

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  45. LT:

    Did I just win a case of beer?!

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    You know, when we were going through this "coke machine" phase...

    It'd be nice if we could have taken Backes instead of McDonald.

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  47. I believe I remember reading somewhere around the 2003 draft that Jessiman was a player Lowe had among the guys he was looking at with the 17th pick. Slats has done the Oilers some favours since becoming GM of the Rangers, but taking Hugh Jessiman 5 spots before we had the chance.

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  48. I hope the Oilers draft some more sandpaper players this draft, personally I am want guys like Brad Ross with one of their 2nd round picks and Charles Inglis with the 4th if we can get him there

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  49. i agree, ualbert, Brad Ross would be a good tough player for us to draft especially if we trade up to take a shot at the very tough Dylan McIlrath.

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  50. Especially since Mtl is finally succeeding with the 'Edmonton' model, smallish front-end.

    Myself, I want Really Big guys like Pat Kane. How's that a problem again?

    As long as you have a Byfxyz/Penner to wear people out trying to move them. No Coke machines, please. Hockey players.

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  51. Agreed Alice. the league is littered with "coke machines" who never really accomplished anything until after a few years in the league learning to actually play the game. I'm all for drafting guys who actually battle and grind it out, but they need to actually have some skills and the capacity to keep up speed wise. Stone is a great example of a solid two way player with "coke machine' attributes and physical play, who although not fast, can play a solid defensive game. I'd sooner trade guys like Nilsson or late round picks for "coke machine" types in the early to mid 20's who have played 3-4 years in the minors and can actually play the game.

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  52. PDO: Yes, I owe you a dozen beer. Still drinking old Mil?

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  53. Three words: up yours Vancouver!

    That is all.

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  54. It would be too much work to look up but I wonder how our drafting of coke machines compares to other teams. If you were to look at each team and how many players they drafted who were say 6'3 or bigger and who scored less than 40 pts in their draft year it would be an interesting comparison. I suspect we are not alone on the coke machine bandwagon as size is still valued above being able to play by many people in the NHL.

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  55. Jessiman was mentioned earlier, but him and Anthony Stewart are two coke machines who were high draft picks and highly regarded, and have never broken into the NHL. they have a bunch of solid AHL seasons, with 20 plus goals and 100 PIM's, and are guys I would target as trade pieces for late rd picks or salary dumps. Stone was a throw in and has surprised with his game. I'm happy to pass on coke machines in the draft, but now that they are in their mid 20's let's go get some "1st rd failures" and see what they can do. Worst case scenario they add beef to the AHL lineup (something we need). best case they pull a Stone and give the big club some options going into the season.

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  56. Oilers embrace computers:

    http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Microsoft-Delivers-the-Future-of-Productivity-with-Office-2010-and-SharePoint-2010-1258928.htm

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  57. I don't really know where the Canucks go from here but something has to change.

    Now maybe that something is a simple -- though not really -- as taking some money from the forward corps and putting in back into the D and I know Demitra's contract is up but you've gone and made commitments with the Sedins and The Mouthpieces -- Burrows and Kesler - and nothing really looks untoward in those deals.

    Then again maybe this is nothing more than Luongo losing his fastball.

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  58. LT - You should buy the kiddies a PS3 and grab MLB.tv for yourself while you're at it. Sounds like a pretty good deal for only $99 bucks.

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  59. Moose: I work at a company that makes 3rd party SharePoint products. I am excited about the possibility of us getting inquiries from the Oilers.

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  60. Hey Dennis did you see the piece in the telegram regarding Hockey Canadas WJH summer camp being held (possibly) in St Johns?

    Pretty cool if it does. Too bad it wasn't pre-draft, but Im assuming we will be able to get a nice long look at Seguin/Hall anyways. Probably see a few Oilers scouts in attendance.

    (dont laugh anybody, we take what Oilers stuff we can get down here in the eastern edge of north america)

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  61. I hope the Oilers draft some more sandpaper players this draft, personally I am want guys like Brad Ross with one of their 2nd round picks and Charles Inglis with the 4th if we can get him there

    I'd be down with Charles I think he'd certainly be there in the fourth round. Would have had a better offensive year but his fast start was stymied by getting mono.

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  62. Then again maybe this is nothing more than Luongo losing his fastball.

    Did he ever have a top end fastball or were the hitter in the SE just bad?

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  63. Khabby and Thomas would be a very solid (if very old and expensive) tandem. If we could get something of future value in return for taking that contract off Boston's hands, I say keep em both on the big club.

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  64. Dennis: Despite locking up their aces they're still sitting $12MM under the cap next season needing a top six forward, a top four defenseman, and a handful of bottom of the roster guys.

    Chicago's going to be savaged by the cap, which essentially leaves San Jose as the only team better than them.

    I don't know about you, but to me the Canucks look like they're in solid position to make a run over the next few years. Making smart low-end bets and having a couple of kids turn out will be key to getting over the hump, but I'd be pretty happy if I were in their place.

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  65. MattM said...
    Moose: I work at a company that makes 3rd party SharePoint products. I am excited about the possibility of us getting inquiries from the Oilers.

    9:52 AM, May 12, 2010


    Oh lord. I hate InfoPath with a fair amount of passion, and some of that extends to Sharepoint. I'd be excited by inquiries from the Oilers as well, but if you have to make InfoPath documents day in and day out for months on end...all I can say is you poor bastard.

    Then again if you get paid oodles of cash in compensation I substitute all of that sympathy with envy =).

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  66. DBO, that's a fantastic idea. Chad Kilger is a guy that immediately comes to mind as a 1st rounder that didn't pan out, went the waiver route, and eventually turned himself into an effective 3rd liner.

    Funny how he dropped off the face of the earth so suddenly though, I'd love to know the backstory of what happened there.

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  67. Holy crap, that's one fancy schmancy Coke Machine!

    What else do you have hiding in your basement LT, besides a small pile of bottle caps in one corner?

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  68. I'm with Quain on the Dys future. They look okay especially if they can find a replacement for Mitchell on D.

    The Dys look pretty smart now planning Canucks Day after their First Round victory. They must've known that was gonna be their Stanley Cup. After all, they have a lot of experience at this.

    Hehe. Hehehehehe.

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  69. LT:

    Pilsner :).

    Alex Keiths or Rickards Red when I'm feeling exotic, but as a student that's pretty rare.

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  70. Not sure if this has been posted yet but I am wondering if anyone is an espn insider and has Gare Joyce's mock draft that they can post on here...if that's allowed.

    Also, The Hockey News Draft issue is available online for all you draft junkies.

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  71. Alex Keiths or Rickards Red when I'm feeling exotic, but as a student that's pretty rare.

    Rickard's Red is the worst beer in Canada that isn't renowned for being terrible (i.e. not counting Lucky and its ilk). This is a source of frustration to me partly because it is inexplicably abundant in New Brunswick, where I've recently moved, and because I'm a fan of dark beer generally and I can't count the number of bars I've visited where I've asked what they have dark and on-top and Rickard's Red has been the answer. Bah.

    End rant,

    Steve "I like my beer like I like my women: dark, Belgian, and alcoholic" Smith

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  72. "On-top" should read "on-tap", for those of you who are weak on context.

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  73. I'm also a fan of dark beer, but unfortunately very few pubs/bars have my preferred brews on hand (Mill St. Coffee Porter or St-Ambroise Oatmeal Stout). I generally settle for Guinness or Trad here in Alberta, and whatever else is dark-ish and not watery when I leave the province. I also don't understand the appeal of Rickards, I found the Red to be blah and the White to be downright disgusting, though the Honey Brown is an acceptable substitute for real beer when I'm at an Eskimos game. Keith's is also ok but calling it an IPA is a bit misleading as it seems more lager-y than most IPAs I've had (wikipedia agrees.) In general I try to avoid middle-ground beers as much as possible. Either spend extra and get something really tasty, or buy whatever I can get for around $1/can and drink till I black out, you stop tasting it after beer 6 or so anyway. As a side note, Sherbrooke liquor store might be my favourite place in the city and I regret not going there more often lately. There's like 10 liquor stores within a few blocks of my apartment and almost all of them suck.

    End off-topic agreement with Steve's rant.

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  74. Old Mil has pretty pin-up girls on their cans. And beer inside. For a buck a can. What more could a man want?

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  75. SJ has Marleau and Nabokov up as UFA and Pavelski is RFA plus who knows who else.

    That's the cap for you though, everybody dragged back to the pack.

    Chicago would be fine if they could dump Campbell. Him and Huet. Then they could get it together.

    Don't think they can find anyone to take Campbell though. Unless they send him to the minors. Shame to move Versteeg and Sharp or Byfuglien to save him.

    Tallon's last gift keeps on giving.

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  76. Making smart low-end bets and having a couple of kids turn out will be key to getting over the hump, but I'd be pretty happy if I were in their place.

    Their best bet is to flip Cory Schneider for a defenseman prospect who is NHL ready right now. They're never going to need Schneider and have lacked a stud blueline prospect since Bourdon (RIP). Given where the Islanders pick is going to be this year they'll likely be able to pick up a top-2 defensive prospect there, making a swap of Schneider for either Calvin DeHaan or Travis Hamonic seem like a beauty of a move for both teams.

    Up front they've got some nice talent. Schroeder's surpassed Hodgson as their top forward prospect IMO, he was able to stand up and be one of my Moose's key contributors until their early playoff exit. Presuming his back lets him play at the next level, he'll be a Horcoff type. Wins hockey games, but not what you expect from the 10th overall pick.

    Prospect pool's running kind of dry down on the Manitoba farm. It really did hurt us this year, along with senseless call-ups from Vancouver. Drafting in the 22-26 range isn't going to help them much.

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  77. Plus you can drink a dozen in ten minutes, the old Milwaukee I mean

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  78. If quality is what you're after I believe half-pints "micro" brew is available in the Edm area. The stir Stick Stout is about as good as they come. You might have to be a bit of a hop head to appreciate the other selections but they're all recommended.

    Expand your horizons PDO, it's on LT :).

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  79. Old Mil has pretty pin-up girls on their cans. And beer inside. For a buck a can. What more could a man want?

    How about beer that doesn't taste like water?

    Took a 10-day trip through Western Canada after my exams were over to celebrate my upcoming graduation and came back with 42 brilliant beers. I focussed on local specials and haven't missed yet. Okanogan Spring's got some beautiful stuff and I fell in love with the Grandville Island Brewery's Winter Ale. I really wish that Winnipeg could get in on the micro markets but alas it doesn't look too promising with the notable exception of Half Pints' sensational products.

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  80. Just turned it on

    3-1 Switzerland 2:00 into the second.


    Mmmmmm...Kilkenney

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  81. To fix a previous erratum, that should be Hodgson's back, not Schroeder's.

    Ed: Half Pints is a Winnipeg brew. The brew master lived exactly behind my grandparents for a time. Great guy, and I agree the Stir Stick is....well, I haven't found a comparable stout yet.

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  82. I fell in love with the Grandville Island Brewery's Winter Ale.

    Fella on my beer league team is a rep for Granville Island Brewing. We pay his league fees, he supplies the beer. It's a nice little setup that keeps everyone happy.

    The Winter Ale isn't exactly what you're looking for after a game, but I like the dark beer, and winter ale is my personal favourite from Granville island.

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  83. dg - I think we've had this conversation before, the microbrews are taking off everywhere, even compared to five years ago the options here are now limitless

    Its coming your way my friend and its going to be good.

    A quality import from overseas are the St.Peter's ale and stout - quality if you can find it.

    And not sure how many Ontario brews get around but if you ever see Carlton Place stuff (they are in stubbies) try them out. The IPA is terrific, they also have a bitter, a porter and a summer session ale.

    And Great Lakes Brewery has some solid shit too including a great Winter Ale.

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  84. I had Okanogan Springs' stout once and it was so terrible I never went back to try anything else from them. Maybe the other stuff is better. Granville Island have some decent brews though, and Tree do, too. I recently had Howe Sound's Recession Bitter (I forget the exact name, look for the downward-trending stocks on the label) and it was pretty good, but it only comes in 1L bottles, I think. Alberta doesn't have the diversity of micro/independent brews that BC does either, though it's not a total dead zone. Alley Kat and Amber's are both pretty good here in Edmonton, and Wild Rose in Cowgary has a few decent brews. And then there's Big Rock who have gotten big enough to guarantee that as long as I'm not in a total dive, I have a shot at getting a decent pint somewhere in this province. Paddock Wood also have some tasty stuff in Saskatchewan, but I don't know how easy it is to find there, and I've only seen it at a couple of stores here.

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  85. Pat:

    I go out camping in Ontario at least once a year, usually Sioux Narrows or around there, and a pit stop in Kenora for beers on the way back is usually mandatory. It was there I first sampled Keith's Red actually, although the novelty eventually wore off.

    I'll be keeping your suggestions in mind this year. Thanks for the heads-up.

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  86. On the beer tip, I think Dead Frog Brewery is heading Alberta's way.
    If you get a chance give the Nut Brown a try.

    To hockey, Tavares is not looking strong against the Swiss.

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  87. dg - yeah keep an eye, not sure how diverse the product selection is up there but I remember when beer selection was really really limited, it was awful in fact, everywhere here.

    Now even when I go back to Sudbury I can get seriously quality beer.

    Its the best.

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  88. Been a fan of the micro brews for 15+ years now...much better taste and way less of a hangover.
    Lots of choices on the west coast-Granville Island Pale ale and OK Springs are both great.I was into Big Rock Warthog Ale for a time as well.

    Sleemans makes a fine product although they might be considered a bigger brewery now.

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  89. If any of you are ever in New Brunswick, I heartily recommend almost anything Picaroon's puts out. While Fredericton doesn't have a great deal going for it over New Brunswick's other "major" cities, I think it's got a better brewey than Moncton's Pump House or Saint John's Moosehead (both of which are just fine in their way, the former especially if you incorrectly think that blueberries belong in beer).

    Perhaps Dennis can correct me, but St. John's seems to be completely bereft of good local beer.

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  90. 4-1 sui vs can.
    Wow. Stamkos didn't finish the game.
    The road just got tougher for our Canadian representatives.

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  91. Uni:

    Haha, no InfoPath for me. We do content migration tools, so I'm doing application development in C# and .Net.

    Living in Vancouver, the Granville Island is a staple. The Winter Ale is the best thing they do in my opinion, and the popularity has kept it going closer to year round than when they first released it. Drink a fair bit of Big Rock as well, and recently I've been going for some of the Phillips stuff, which is from Victoria I think.

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  92. St. John's seems to be completely bereft of good local beer

    Actually, Quidi Vidi (pronounced Kiddy Viddy) brews some decent beer. Eric's Red and the Iceberg beer are good - the cranberry one is a bit of an acquired taste though.

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  93. Actually, Quidi Vidi (pronounced Kiddy Viddy) brews some decent beer. Eric's Red and the Iceberg beer are good - the cranberry one is a bit of an acquired taste though.

    Didn't think much of Eric's Red; can't remember if I tried Iceberg.

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  94. Iceberg's tough to get off the island I think. I haven't seen it come to Alberta yet.

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  95. Iceberg's tough to get off the island I think. I haven't seen it come to Alberta yet.

    I was in St. John's at the time, as I was dating a Newfie. Now I'm dating a German. The relative availability of good beer when visiting the girlfriend's family wasn't really a deciding factor, but it's a nice fringe benefit.

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  96. Canada lost because MacTavish lost the room.

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  97. Well, a fancy beer conversation.

    A thing on Sleeman: It's now owned by a japanese brewing company believe it or not.

    On my part i enjoy Boréale the most (Quebec Local) and if only general beers are available, Coors Light is okay.

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  98. Jon - I can E-mail you the article if you want. Like you said I'm not sure if I can be posting it.

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  99. fpb: St-Ambroise/McAuslan is local to Montreal, they have a few different brews but I've only had their Oatmeal Stout and their Apricot-flavoured beer. The stout is really good if you're into that sort of thing but I prefer Alley Kat's Aprikat if I have to drink fruity beer. In any case, you might even be able to find pubs that carry them so check them out. A friend of mine was able to find it in Ottawa so I'm sure it's available across Quebec.

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  100. I enjoy a Stella or Grolsch every now and then, but when I want to treat myself, it's a 15 pack of TNT all the way.

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  101. Ahhhh
    Beer, beer, beer, beer
    Wonderful Beeeeer!

    I try to buy something different each time
    [Pilsner Urquell this week, Samuel Adams last]
    but Yukon Red gets my vote
    http://www.yukonbeer.com/YukonRed.htm

    They're kinda hard to find
    Workshop West Theatre Company sells them at half-time.
    Had one a couple of weeks ago, it was much better than the play.

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  102. I try to buy something different each time
    [Pilsner Urquell this week, Samuel Adams last]
    but Yukon Red gets my vote
    http://www.yukonbeer.com/YukonRed.htm


    It used to be sold at Telus Field; not sure if it still is.

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  103. Hehe. Sorry but i can't empeach myself.

    Do you believe in miracles?

    See if the Cinderella stories gets another chapter :).

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  104. Jon,

    Here you go:

    1 Edmonton Oilers
    Taylor Hall , LW, Windsor (OHL)
    A scout recently told me that one of his counterparts in Boston was talking openly about "knowing" that Edmonton is going to take Tyler Seguin with its first pick, leaving the Bruins with Hall as a consolation prize. I have my doubts. I have to believe that either the Oilers are floating misinformation about their intentions or the Bruins are having a bit of fun by stirring the pot. Hall was the best talent coming into this season and the best at its conclusion, regardless of NHL Central Scouting's selection of Seguin as the No. 1 in North America. In the playoffs, with Windsor rallying from three games down in the best of seven in the conference finals against Kitchener, Hall has only strengthened his case and made Edmonton's choice easier. Hall's Alberta roots make this pick even sweeter.
    2 Boston Bruins
    Tyler Seguin, C, Plymouth (OHL)
    Seguin struggled to generate offense in Plymouth's series with Windsor, but you can put it down to the Whalers just being outmanned. Otherwise, his season was a resounding success. He made huge strides in the season. It might turn out that he's Matt Duchene to Hall's John Tavares. It might be that Seguin, like Duchene, has only started to tap into his talent in two major junior seasons, while the late-birthday Hall -- like Tavares -- possesses much more experience at the same level and is farther along the development curve. The strides that Seguin made this season are remarkable; nobody tabbed him in the race for the top pick a year ago.
    3 Florida Panthers
    Eric Gudbranson, D, Kingston (OHL)
    Scouts panned Gudbranson's performance at the world under-18s in Minsk, but will probably cut him some slack on that count. It's easy to believe that Gudbranson's midseason bout with mono caught up to him overseas. It was also a case of a brutal team dragging him down. If Boston were to go (slightly) out of the box, the Bruins could look at him at No. 2; they have done workups on him. Likely, though, he'll still be available for the Panthers at No. 3. Some might question if he has the power-play upside to separate himself from Gormley and Fowler. Bonus: Right-handed shot.
    4 Columbus Blue Jackets
    Cam Fowler, D, Windsor (OHL)
    Fowler has looked a little scattered in his own end recently. He's easily the best skater of the top three D prospects -- but he's also the one that ranks lowest among them on reading the game and playing without the puck. Fowler (or any of the other top D-men) would fill a crying need for Columbus if development unfolds as expected. The Jackets have a decent prospect pool up front (all the more if they can ever get Nikita Filatov back), including picking up D John Moore last year in the first round. He looks as though he'll have NHL game, though not with the offensive potential that Fowler (or Gormley) has.

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  105. 5 New York Islanders
    Brandon Gormley, D, Moncton (Quebec Major Junior League)
    The Isles have had 11 picks in the top three rounds of the last two drafts and GM Garth Snow has shown a willingness -- or even eagerness -- to make bold moves on draft day, whether it's moving down to add picks or up to get a player that his scouts have targeted. I'd say it's no better than a 50-50 pick that the Isles will be picking in this slot. If they do, the easiest thing would be to project the Isles opting for the top D-man not selected in the top four. Scouts love Gormley's hockey sense; on that count he ranks the highest of the top three D prospects. Either Gudbranson or Fowler might be a better fit. There's some overlap with Gormley's game and that of last year's No. 12 overall pick by the Isles, Calvin de Haan of the Oshawa Generals (OHL).
    6 Tampa Bay Lightning
    Nino Niederreiter, LW, Portland (Western Hockey League)
    No one knows who'll be GM of the team in the long run -- or if that GM can get out from under the contract of Vincent Lecavalier. OK, Steven Stamkos worked out at No. 1 in ' 08 and Victor Hedman appears to be OK at No. 2 last year. Most of the other recent drafts haven't quite worked out for the Lightning, so the organizational chart isn't pretty. Niederreiter is a physical specimen; he already has a pro body. Too good to pass up here.
    7 Carolina Hurricanes
    Derek Forbort, D, U.S. development team
    Forbort and teammate Jonathan Merrill had big world under-18 tournaments on the U.S. team's blue line. Forbort has more upside in the long run. Jack Johnson was a more finished player out of the Ann Arbor program when Jim Rutherford drafted him No. 3 in 2005; this time the Hurricanes' GM will get a top defenseman into the organization in a more timely fashion.
    8 Atlanta Thrashers
    Mikael Granlund, C, HIFK (Finland)
    Granlund had big tournaments at the world under-20s and under-18s. He excelled in the Finnish elite league against pros. He's a gifted player -- just not a gifted skater. He's not gifted with size, either. The Thrashers have needs aplenty. (They'll probably bank on a goaltender being around with their later picks.) Some scouts project him more as a 10-to-20 player; physically, they might be right. The Thrashers have some forwards in the organization who are making big strides. It would be easy to see Granlund as a complement to last year's second-rounder Jeremy Morin, a winger who lit up the OHL with Kitchener.
    9 Minnesota Wild
    Jeff Skinner, C/W, Kitchener (Ontario)
    I didn't have him on earlier lists -- but 50 goals in a regular season and 20 more in the playoffs convinced me. The biggest disconnect of all between Central Scouting's list and the team scouts' is Skinner. He's No. 34 on the former, in the top 15 for most of the latter. Central had to mark him down for size. He is 5-10, so that's valid. Central likely marked him down for skating as well; this isn't deserved, though. He's not pretty but if he's getting 70 goals over the full course of the season he apparently gets where he has to go. I'm sure that GM Chuck Fletcher will have some pressure on him to take a Minnesota prospect in the draft -- it's the chief complaint of many in the fan base and it might have been a consideration when the Wild drafted hometown hero D Nick Leddy (since traded) with last year's first-rounder. It would be a bit of a stretch to take local high school F Nick Bjugstad here, but not a huge one.

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  106. 10 New York Rangers
    Austin Watson, C, Peterborough (OHL)
    The Rangers have young blueliners to choose from -- Marc Staal and Michael Del Zotto just being the very first rank -- so they will be looking to draft up front. It's a choice of Watson and Portland's Ryan Johansen. I'll go with Watson here on the strength of his physical game and competitive fire. The Rangers are the team that has the recent history to position themselves to take a Russian player -- but they have to believe that other teams will be so scared off by Filatov, Radulov & Co. that a good Russian player will be available to them in the second round.
    11 Dallas Stars
    Ryan Johansen, C, Portland (WHL)
    Watson could go here as well. These two are just about interchangeable.
    12 Anaheim Ducks
    Emerson Etem, RW, Medicine Hat (WHL)
    A California team taking a California player; these are the things that great publicity is made of. It is, however, more than that -- Etem is a scorer, big on hockey sense and puck skills if not the prettiest skater. Defense might be more of an area of need but Etem might be the best pick available or, if not, the one with the most upside.
    13 Phoenix Coyotes
    Jonathan Merrill, D, U.S. development team
    The Coyotes have to believe that C Kyle Turris, the No. 3 overall from '07, is going to pan out, even if he has struggled to make an impact in the NHL so far. Their '08 first-rounders Fs Mikkel Boedker and Viktor Tikhonov have already done more with the big club than Turris. Phoenix took Swedish D Oliver Ekman-Larsson last year at No. 6 and Merrill looks a fit here. Ekman-Larsson is more of a game-defining blueliner and Merrill projects more as a player who complements someone like that. Between them, this could be a top-two unit that will last a good long stretch.
    14 St. Louis Blues
    Evgeni Kuznetsov, RW, Chelyabinsk (Russia)
    It's easy to put St. Louis on a forward. The Blues' 2008 first-round (fourth overall) selection, D Alex Pietrangelo of Barrie (OHL), might be the best and most NHL-ready player in major junior hockey this season. They drafted Swedish blueliner David Runblad in last year's first round. And they drafted yet another D-man, Ian Cole, No. 18 overall in 2007 and signed him this spring. The Blues, now set at D for years to come, have drafted as well as anybody in recent years and are poised to take a risk. Kuznetsov is only the second-ranked Russian on Central's list, behind Vladimir Tarasenko, but scouts loved Kutznetsov's game at the under-18 tournaments this year. He's more Evgeni Malkin than Alex Ovechkin. He could easily be one of the three or four best players in this draft class and, if events unfold as they are planned, he could land in the CHL this season -- with Quebec the most likely destination. The scouting consensus is that teams will be reluctant to draft Russian players because of the KHL and uncertainty about the prospects coming or staying there. The standard line is that only teams with multiple picks in this draft will give it consideration. It would make even more sense if a team that has a deep organizational chart and multiple picks in recent seasons made the bold play. Then again, if Granlund is still on the board, he won't fall past St Louis.
    15 Montreal Canadiens
    Brett Connolly, RW, Prince George (WHL)
    After missing most of the season with a hip injury, Connolly came back at season's end and played well -- but was a virtual washout at the under-18s. This definitely hurt his draft stock. The most important factor in his draft slot will be physical exams of his hip. He could be a great value in this slot for a team that's undersized up front. This pick is obviously contingent on a clean bill of health.

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  107. 16 Anaheim Ducks
    Jack Campbell, G, U.S. development team
    This pick comes to Anaheim via the Flyers -- and someday, the Flyers may wish they still had this pick. They could have landed a goaltender who wouldn't be considered an edible foodstuff by their fans. Anaheim doesn't have a crying need in goal -- Jonas Hiller should give the Ducks three or four more seasons of elite goaltending. But G is not an organizational strength for Anaheim; at this stage of the draft you're not looking at immediate returns and Campbell has a better chance than most of the skaters in this range to be an elite player. Destined for Windsor next season.
    17 Ottawa Senators (from Carolina)
    Nick Bjugstad, C, Blaine H.S. (Minnesota)
    There's no need for D or G in the organization, but every team can use a big, rangy forward who skates as well as Bjugstad. It's not clear that he has the puck skills and the stick to play center at the next level, but he'd make a target for a creative centerman.
    18 Colorado Avalanche
    Mark Pysyk, D, Edmonton (WHL)
    Colorado had an excellent draft last year, with Fs Matt Duchene and Ryan O'Reilly in the first and second rounds, respectively. The Avalanche have a pretty good young defenseman in the pipeline, Cameron Gaunce of Mississauga (OHL). Pysyk's hard to project -- his team was awful, and he suffered a broken foot and tried to play through it. Decent size and good puck-moving ability, though sometimes his compass is off; if you get him at his best, he's good value at No. 18. At his worst, he'd be out of the first round.
    19 Buffalo Sabres
    Dylan McIlrath, D, Moose Jaw (WHL)
    If the Sabres are going to ever face the Bruins again in the postseason, they must have someone who can make Boston pay the price. Offensive upside? Don't ask. Physical punishment? In spades.
    20 Nashville Predators
    Teemu Pulkkinen, LW, Jokerit (Finland)
    The Predators hit a lot more than they miss on draft day. They're also willing to go out of the box -- last year they took Ryan Ellis, a 5-10 defenseman, at No. 11 and a guy who missed the entire season with a football injury, Zach Budish, in the second round. Pulkkinen looks like a bit of a reach here (No. 17 on Central Scouting's list of European skaters) but of all the Euros available at this slot he and Johan Larsson are the ones who had the best tournaments in Minsk. And although he's less of an all-around player than Larsson, Pulkkinen projects a little better to the next level. He'll score anywhere he plays -- but the rest he's going to have to figure out. If you're going to have one dimension, it's the dimension to have.
    21 Los Angeles Kings
    John McFarland, LW, Sudbury (OHL)
    The Kings like the major junior route on draft day. By the time you're hitting the 20s, home runs might be a little hard to come by -- and the difference between your pick here and your second-rounder will be marginal. McFarland's stock took a big hit this season. Two years ago he was projected as a top five in this class and he was great for Ontario at under-17s and for Canada at under-18s (as an underager in '09) and at the summer under-18s (there on a line with Seguin and Ottawa's Tyler Toffoli). But Sudbury was, on the whole, a disappointment and he was, like Gudbranson, not very impressive with a bad Canadian team in Minsk. Lots of scouts think Central had him way too high at No. 15 in North America. Maybe. Like Pysyk, if you project him off his best games he could be good value in the 20s.
    22 Detroit Red Wings
    Johan Larsson, C, Brynas (Sweden)
    Central Scouting has him only No. 35 in European skaters, but he was the best player on the Swedish team at the under-18s. A good sense of the two-way game for a teenager. D might seem like more of a need at this point. In the Wings' dreams, Merrill would fall here.

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  108. 23 Atlanta Thrashers
    Vladimir Tarasenko, RW, Novosibirsk (Russia)
    The scouts say that if anyone is going to take a Russian it will be a team with multiple picks. Here you go. Along with Kuznetsov, Tarasenko is a player with a chance to be one of the five best players in this draft class. Getting potential like this in the 20s is just too tempting to let go. Like Kuznetsov, those handling Tarasenko would have to get out the message that he's coming -- and that the timeline is viable. All dicey at this point, but so are any picks at the end of the first. Burmistrov could be an option if, cough, any red flags go up.
    24 Vancouver Canucks
    Beau Bennett, RW, Penticton (BCHL)
    Could have saved on the scouting budget if they'd known he'd be there: California-born and might be attractive to L.A. Bennett gets all high marks for hockey sense. He's headed the University of Denver. Jumped from No. 48 on Central Scouting's midterm to No. 32 in the finals -- and scouts say the leap was even bigger than that.
    25 Phoenix Coyotes
    Alexander Burmistrov, C, Barrie (OHL)
    Burmistrov's stock took a bit of a hit at the very end; he hasn't looked good against Windsor in the OHL final. Then again, Tyler Seguin didn't look good in the playoffs -- and he's a top-three pick, likely. I suspect Burmistrov ran out of gas in his first go-round with the North American game and an every-other-night schedule. Five-star speed and puck skills are here, but size and ability to handle the heavy weather (like Windsor's) are questions.
    26 Washington Capitals
    Jaden Schwartz, C, Tri-City (USHL)
    Even if Ovechkin doesn't win the Hart, or Backstrom the Selke, or Green the Norris, the Capitals have so many assets that it becomes hard to figure out any fit. It's not just the Presidents' Trophy -- Washington's AHL affiliate in Hershey smoked the league this year. In development the Caps have a potential top-two defenseman in John Carlson (who stepped right into the lineup at season's end); two young, emerging goalies in Semyon Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth; and all kinds of picks in the pipeline. Yup, a shutdown D would be great -- but that's a need better and more immediately addressed through trade or signing than the draft. Schwartz could be a fit as a second-line center in three or four seasons. Might have the highest hockey IQ of all centers in this class. Headed to Colorado College. Check out how many Saskatchewan kids end up drafted by the Caps.

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  109. 27 Boston Bruins
    Kevin Hayes, RW, Nobles H.S. (Mass.)
    Not just a local attraction. The Bruins should have the best workup on him. Pro-sized, skilled. Hayes' performances are a little in-and-out and that's why he drops to this spot -- or out of the first round.
    28 Chicago Blackhawks
    Brock Nelson, C, Warroad H.S. (Minn.)
    Headed to Green Bay of the USHL next season, Nelson played way off the axis for a small school in northern Minnesota but dominated in all-star games and against anyone he played; he was just too good for the competition. Nelson's supposed to be heading to North Dakota after a year with Green Bay -- any team that selects him is going to wish there was a way to fast-track his development. Pro size, vision and elite skating, yes; but less prime-time experience than others higher up on the list.
    29 Pittsburgh Penguins
    Tyler Toffoli, C/RW, Ottawa (OHL)
    Toffoli's performance fell a bit in the homestretch of the season. He has second-line upside, enough of a physical game to take a place on the third line and the smarts needed not to hurt you in other roles. Minnesota State's Tyler Pitlick might fit that profile as well but seems more suited to center than the wing.
    30 San Jose Sharks
    Riley Sheahan, C, Notre Dame
    The underage drinking bust can't help. Sheahan was No. 5 on Central Scouting's midterms and fell 17 slots on its list -- and a lot of scouts felt that wasn't far enough. Maybe someone with a good memory can recall why he was No. 5 on that list in the first place: pro size (over 6-1 and 205 pounds) and good skating. Consensus opinion is that he struggled with the NCAA game and that he showed more as an underage than he did playing the college game. With the last pick on Friday night, it's worth taking a big swing.

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  110. To add a bit more International flavor to the beer discussion. My favorite beers by nation:

    Polish - Zywiec
    Singapore - Tiger
    Cambodian - Anchor
    Mexican - Pacifico/Negra Modelo
    German - Lowenbrau

    These are all fairly light as I generally prefer light to dark beers. The one common factor all these beers possess is they were cheaper than buying a Coke (and generally cheaper than a coffee or bottled water) in each of the above countries.

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  111. Lucic to the Bruins for anyone not going to be around in 2-3 years.

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  112. Thanks for posting that commonfan. Though, it seems like he's weighing each team's positional needs far more heavily than he should be. Plus, I don't see Connolly falling out of the top 5, nevermind all the way to 15. If I was drafting 3rd, I'd probably take him (providing my medical staff gives the ok)

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  113. Why would anyone take Connolly over Johansen?

    Johansen has size and scoring, has no health problems, and nobody in junior hockey developed as much Johansen did this year.

    Johansen basically gained 3 quarters of a lap on the draft in one year. Most of these guys finished around the same time but Johansen started close to a lap behind. I don't think you can fluke your way to that kind of development spike and if he continues to develop at this pass he will end up giving Seguin a run for the best center in the draft.

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  114. Danny: I never saw that tidbit as I don't really read the local paper all that much and especially not the the sports section; one can never have too little of Robin Short.

    And I hate dark beer unless Guinness counts and the stuff they brew locally should be thrown in the harbour to join the other slop.

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  115. Here's an entire article to the small link I posted yesterday about the Oilers new web-based scouting tool.

    There's an interesting line towards the end about fans eventually participating in the scouting process. Good stuff.

    http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=3019818

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