This is the kind of thing I cannot recall Montreal doing during their glory years. Whatever the reason behind the move, whatever the result, it's my opinion that there is much wrong with the Montreal Canadiens today. I think it's reasonable to expect more firings and trades before the season is too far along, and ultimately there may be a change at coach and general manager.
Pearn was an assistant to Tom Renney when he was head man in NYC, and there were rumors that Pearn had been offered a job with the Oilers after the Quinn palace coup. Pearn's 3-on-3 hockey camps are well known in Western Canada and many NHL players use them to prepare for their training camps.
Good luck to the Montreal Canadiens. I can't help but think the team had bigger problems than Perry Pearn.
All these teams that languish near 8th place need to tank...then draft a few top players and move on.
ReplyDeleteIt's the modern way to do it.
Not only that, but if you look at Desjardin's site, the Habs are among the best at generating shots per 60 on the PP and among the stingiest in allowing the on the PK.
ReplyDeleteCan't see why they did that.
Olivier: Well, I don't know if Gauthier is an advanced stats GM. I think the key to remember is that Pearn is probably lucky to be out now, because this is a mess.
ReplyDeleteAny fool can see that the team has massive injuries on the blue--why did they rely so heavily on men with long injury histories--and then they signed Erik Cole and talked about him as if he scored like Shanahan.
It's all good, though. From bad comes good. The Oilers told me so. :-)
I can't remember the last time an assistant coach was fired in-season.
ReplyDeleteI have a hard job believing Pearn was a big reason for Cuntreal's problems and I think this was more a shot across the bow of Martin, ie they don't want to fire him yet with so much money left on his contract.
Anyway, let's not look a gift horse in the mouth, shall we? There's officially panic at Guy Lafleur's discotecque.
Enjoy it everybody!
He probably slept with Tommy Salo's wife.
ReplyDeleteI blame Ryan Jones.
ReplyDeleteNah. Jones wouldn't be on any of the Habs special teams.
ReplyDeleteNah. Jones wouldn't be on any of the Habs special teams.
ReplyDeleteLaforge then. It has to be his fault.
He doesn't need to be on the ice to do some damage (see Gagner, Sam).
ReplyDeletelol. We can't get rid of Laforge, who would back the zamboni in front of the CBC truck?
ReplyDeleteI blame Katzibulin.
ReplyDeleteAnd LT, too. He is not part of the solution, so he is the problem.
You know, I also own a zamboni.....
ReplyDeleteNothing makes me much happier than to see the inmates running the asylum in Montreal. That franchize deserves some turmoil to offset all the positive karma they have received over that past two generations ....
ReplyDeleteWasn't it only 2 summers ago that Pearn was one of the hot names to become a Head Coach?
ReplyDeleteI posit that the Canadiens are a mess because they choose to limit their management and hockey ops hiring pool.
ReplyDeleteCoach: Yeah, they should be like the Oilers. :-)
ReplyDeleteCoach:
ReplyDeleteDon't forget their first round picks.
God you guys are dense.
ReplyDeleteIt's obviously Luongo's fault.
Some of the rhetoric and bile about Luongo from the west coast is approaching comedic levels.
PS. I'll bet that he's gone from Van prior to TC of next season. Probably even before the deadline.
That's funny, I didn't see the new thread but saw the news sitting with a couple of old Haberinos and posted about Pearn being a coach of interest to the Oil too.
ReplyDeleteBTW, LT, I was showing them your wonderful Kurtenbach-Harper photo and they said Harper was never accepted in Montreal because he had played for the Wings teams that had beat the Canadiens for the Cup previously. Dunno if that's true, because I haven't verified their memories yet (one guy is at least 70) but it sounds like something the Hab fans would do back in the day--hold a grudge.
Lowetide said... You know, I also own a zamboni.....
ReplyDeleteJust how big is that backyard rink?
Another brilliant GM! Where have we seen that before? The winner is Pearn.
ReplyDeletespOILer: Nah, Harper came up via Montreal's western junior system and played on many Habs SC teams befor getting dealt to the coast.
ReplyDeleteI believe he was part of LA's package to Detroit for Dionne in maybe 1975, but that's a guess.
I blame Ryan Jones.
ReplyDeleteI thought that wasn't allowed?
Laforge then. It has to be his fault
This is the correct answer.
I remember in the summer of 2009 when Bob Gainey had around $20MM in cap space and I thought "This guy is going to build a winner"
Then he signs Gionta for $5MM/yr and trades for Gomez at $7.357MM/yr and it all went "poof"
This is the fall out.
Perry Pearn will have a job as soon as he wants one.
You gotta admit, LT has a hell of a memory.
ReplyDelete1963-64 Montreal Canadiens
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After toiling in the minor leagues for several years, Harper played 70 games with the Montreal Canadiens in 1963-64. Although he was not a flashy player, he was very effective in his own zone, ensuring the opposition forwards were kept at bay. Harper remained with the Habs for ten years, winning five Stanley Cup rings.
In 1974 the Canadiens traded Harper to the Los Angeles Kings, who were in desperate need of veteran leadership, both on the ice and off. Harper was given the captaincy and he guided the young team for two seasons before being sent to the Detroit Red Wings as part of a package deal, which saw Marcel Dionne move to the west coast. Harper remained with the Red Wing organization for four years before signing as a free agent with the St. Louis Blues in 1979. He finished his career at the age of 40 in 1980-81, playing 15 games with the Don Cherry-coached Colorado Rockies.
The Canadians gave Markov the contract the Oilers are likely to give to Hemsky.
ReplyDeleteThe moral of the story is only a one year contract for Hemsky until he demonstrates a little durability.
It would appear firing Perry Pearn is a great move.
ReplyDeleteHabs up 3-1 in the second.
Perhaps the Oilers could hire Pearn and then fire him.
Perhaps the Oilers could hire Pearn and then fire him.
ReplyDeleteGiven their respective records, its probably a better idea for the Dys.
The Federal Government of Canada just withdrew their $92MM portion of the funding for the proposed $340MM downtown Royal Museum of Alberta.
ReplyDeleteThe Alberta government has cancelled all contracts relating to the museum.
Interesting day for that to happen.
@ Woodguy
ReplyDeleteAmidst all the jubilation about today's arena vote there was not one mention of the missing $100 million.
waterfront toronto
ReplyDeletehttp://www.waterfrontoronto.ca/about_us
Waterfront Toronto is the public advocate and steward of waterfront revitalization. Created by the Governments of Canada and Ontario and the City of Toronto, Waterfront Toronto is mandated to deliver a revitalized waterfront.
Following the release of the Toronto Waterfront Revitalization Task Force's report in March 2000, the three orders of government jointly announced their support for the creation of Waterfront Toronto (formerly Toronto Waterfront Revitalization Corporation) to oversee, lead and implement the waterfront’s renewal.
Formally created in 2001, Waterfront Toronto has a 25-year mandate to transform 800 hectares (2,000 acres) of brownfield lands on the waterfront into beautiful, sustainable mixed-use communities and dynamic public spaces.
The project is one of the largest infrastructure projects in North America and one of the largest waterfront redevelopment initiatives ever undertaken in the world. However, it is not just the sheer scale of the project that makes it unique. Waterfront Toronto is delivering a leading edge city-building model that seeks to place Toronto at the forefront of global cities in the 21st century.
A primary objective of waterfront revitalization is to leverage the infrastructure project to deliver key economic and social benefits that enable Toronto to compete aggressively with other top tier global cities for investment, jobs and people. To do this, Waterfront Toronto brings together the most innovative approaches to sustainable development, excellence in urban design, real estate development, and advanced technology infrastructure.
Amidst all the jubilation about today's arena vote there was not one mention of the missing $100 million
ReplyDeleteNeither the Mayor nor anyone from Rexall Sports seems too concerned about either.
No contingency plan in place should it not come.
Feels like someone gave it the unofficial go ahead.
The speculation I've heard is that the Provincial Government will allow the City to increase its a capital projects grant (essentially taking future money today) with no strings attached, other than it gets taken from future grants.
Really can't see the Fed giving a dime, but I really have no clue.
1/3rd federal share is $1.4 billion dollars
ReplyDeleteFunding of Waterfront Toronto
http://www.waterfrontoronto.ca/governance/funding
When Waterfront Toronto was established, the three orders of government each committed $500 million in seed capital to enable the organization to begin the revitalization process. The vast majority of the land in the waterfront revitalization area is owned by the governments and they also gave the organization development control over their land.
To facilitate our revitalization program, Waterfront Toronto works with public and private partners who buy the land for development. Waterfront Toronto’s funding model leverages the public capital by working with private development partners who buy the land for development, and the money earned is used to further fund public infrastructure.
accountability
As a tri-government organization, Waterfront Toronto is fully accountable to the governments of Canada, Ontario and the City of Toronto. Waterfront Toronto’s priorities are set jointly, annually, with its government partners. Each government approves all of its funding to Waterfront Toronto through detailed and binding contribution agreements. Funding for each project and in many cases phases of projects is administered through contributions agreements, as is corporate annual spending. Contribution agreements are based on an annual tri-government negotiated long-term funding plan, which is approved by Toronto City Council, the Ontario Minister of Infrastructure and the Federal Minister of Finance.
revitalization cost estimates
The cost of revitalization of Toronto’s waterfront was originally estimated (in 2001) at $17 billion, of which $4.3 billion would be funded from the public sector and remaining $12.7 billion from the private sector. Due to escalation in construction costs, the cost of revitalization is now estimated to be $34 billion. Additional public sector funding was expected to be provided through public-private partnerships consistent with the Corporation’s mandate. Such partnerships require Waterfront Toronto to identify either a separate revenue stream and/or a separate project or service. The first of this type of partnership was completed in 2010/11 through the introduction of intelligent communities.
godot,
ReplyDeleteAre they going to start by knocking down the Rogers Center?
Godot,
ReplyDeleteIts important that the Tories buy votes in Ontario. Those who gave them the majority.
Alberta Blue votes are in the bag and we get Museums cancelled.
Woodguy
ReplyDeleteIt is the eastern downtown waterfront...old industrial lands, where your federal dollars are going to be used to subsidize basically condo development and maybe a park or two.
All in Bob Rae's and Jack Layton's riding.
ReplyDeleteI suspect that the infrastructure fund will see about $100 million in new $ in the next year or so as a result of the wink wink deal with the province regarding this.
ReplyDeleteI think the Feds are going to see some backlash over the cancelled funds. There will be a tipping point where people get angry (not angry enough to vote something other than Tory mind you).
And we get museums cancelled?
ReplyDeleteI'm admittedly ignorant on the subject, but framing it that way awakens my curiosity.
This is an existing venue that was scheduled for a rebuild?
Where were the other millions coming from if the Gov pledged 93 million against a 340 million building, that's owned and operated by the government?
Does an older museum seem a reasonable measure to ensure an NHL team stays in your city?
I'm guessing the major difference between a museum, and an arena as proposed, is the revenue ownership, but considering the tax implications of NHL salaries and corporations operating in Edmonton, would they add up to a reasonable replacement for a museums profits?
$164 million dollars of which MLSE (the ACC) is a major beneficiary.
ReplyDeleteToronto Union Station Revitalization
http://www.toronto.ca/union_station/revitalization.htm
Union Station is Canada’s busiest and most important passenger transportation hub and a designated National Historic Site. The station’s revitalization will result in many benefits, including an expanded GO concourse, an increase in the number of exits and entrances, alleviated commuter congestion, and restoration and preservation of the station’s heritage elements.
The Revitalization is a $640-million City initiative supported by investments of $164 million by the Government of Canada and $172 million by the Government of Ontario.
TIFF, the Toronto International Film Festival, is smart enough not to put on its website how many federal dollars went to the snazzy new TIFF Bell Lightbox. So Toronto can host movie stars.
ReplyDeleteStill looking.
I never got home in time for the last thread, what about "the Fonzi line" for them
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Hah. I was going to leave a comment, back from work, and the boom that post.
ReplyDeleteMontreal outshooted almost all of his opponents, but did not score. Carey Price had a save% of ,880. They concluded it wasn't the goalie's fault, the team was at problem.
They pursed by firing the assistant that handled our PK and PP, which were both top 8 last year.
Bunch of idiots.
At least they won't touch Trevor Timmins.
I don't know why people rejoiced when the Molsons bought back the Habs. They were the one who sent them down the shitter.
Thank god for Pacioretty. They can't blow that.
Oh and.....
Who would take Pacioretty for Hemsky now?
What angered me the most, was that the explaination were shady and pretty much ammounted to ''we had to fire someone''.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't take a bright bulb to be NHL GM.
FPB : It's definitely beginning to look lack Pacioretty is the real deal. I took him in one of my pools and he's been good so far.
ReplyDeleteToo bad the Oilers didn't pull the trigger on that one...
I like Bruce's write-ups, but he hasn't sold me on the Pipe Line.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how MPS feels about these here Nukids in town? Last year he was a hallowed member of the golden troika, this year he grinds on the troika of gloom, as told by Bruce's scorecard. Does he lie awake listening to lullaby dirges about the eaglets of doom in the dead of night?
I'm probably sticking with Nuglets until the Rorschach moment of defining identity. What's Native Australian for "these upstart poppies left intentionally blank"?
From the BWoAK:
In Alaska, the term Eskimo is commonly used, because it includes both Yupik and Inupiat, while Inuit is not accepted as a collective term or even specifically used for Inupiat. No universal term other than Eskimo, inclusive of all Inuit and Yupik people, exists for the Inuit and Yupik peoples.
I did not know that. It's only offensive until you're stuck with a United Kingdom.
A derogatory term, [pomme/pommy/pom] was controversially ruled no longer offensive in 2006 by the Australian Advertising Standards Board and in 2010 by the New Zealand Broadcasting Standards Authority. Despite these changing views, many British people or those of British origin consider the expression offensive or racist when used by people not of British origin to describe English or British people, yet acceptable when used within that community ...
Suck it up you pommy bastards, the egg marketing board says so.
One could read for hours on the subtle contours of insult down under.
Matt Duchene just made an unbelievable play, rang it off the post, and good old Charlie Simmer could only focus on some inconsequential hit on David Moss. Just glad we have DeBrusk instead of him or Garrett.
ReplyDeleteDeadman - The Nukids On The Bus?
ReplyDeleteAnd oh my..The glowing eyes are strong with this one! They appear to have even warped the lens of the camera somehow!
ReplyDelete...but considering the tax implications of NHL salaries and corporations operating in Edmonton, would they add up to a reasonable replacement for a museums profits?
ReplyDeleteA museum's whatnow?
Are you guys still talking about what to name the kid line? It's already been named: The Lottery Line.
ReplyDeletePer Mathson:
After the Lottery Line had five points and 11 shots in the Oilers’ 3-2 win over the Canucks, maybe the future is now.
Personally, I think this is a great name for them. 2 real lottery picks and one pick the hit the lottery on...
Danny - the province was footing the bill for the rest of the Museum. Not building a museum doesn't really bother me, but I am a bit tired of Edmonton events and projects getting short shifted by the Feds.
ReplyDeleteI am waiting to see if our new Premier is willing to take Harper to task over this.
This looks like National Energy Policy #2.
ReplyDeleteWhose money is it? We contribute what, exactly?
1970's liberals appears to equal 2010's conservatives.
Again, whose money is it?
I like the "Tank Line"
ReplyDelete... because that's exactly what we did to create it.
This looks like National Energy Policy #2.
ReplyDeleteI enjoy hysterical hyperbole as much as the next guy, but that's a little much.
Godot,
The Rogers Center thing was a lame attempt at comedy.
All in Bob Rae's and Jack Layton's riding.
ReplyDeleteWill they have gates to make sure only those who vote in the riding can come in?
Well, technically, Waterfront Toronto was concocted during Chretien's term, and the biggest tranche of federal money of money was allocated under the Liberals.
ReplyDeleteIt will be interesting to see if Harper keeps up the federal 1/3rd ongoing share.
Aside: The Fords wanted to hijack Waterfront Toronto and build an NFL stadium and a shopping mall, but that was shot down pretty quickly.
But this is just a real estate redevelopment like the Muni redevelopment. Are the Feds paying for 1/3rd of that?