Tuesday, September 27, 2011

PS G6 Coyotes at Oilers

Fans have the better nickname for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. "The Nuge" is the fan's choice, a cool name once given to outdoorsman-rocker Ted Nugent and flies high above the usual hockey nicknames.

The player's choice? Hoppy. HOPPY? Why don't they just post a "kick me" sign on his back? Hoppy. Seriously?

Hoppy will play on a line with Smytty and Hemmer tonight, another feature role for the kid. I've been impressed with RNH, his overall game is far more advanced than the scouting reports had led us to believe. Ken Hitchcock pointed out his tremendous ability away from the puck--he's going to be a turnover machine for opposition passes--but we need to wait and see how he does against full NHL lineups before the answer is sure.

Hemsky back is making his 2011 debut and is worth the price of admission (if you can't make the game it's being streamed on the Oilers site again). Dubynk's SP is now .971 after the shutout and the top rookie scorers for this team are RNH and Taylor Fedun. Preseason scoring is here.

192 comments:

  1. Katz should hire a nickname pro for the team. Names like Gator are long gone, he would be called Smithy now.

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  2. Ales Hemsky makes his highly touted return to the Oil lineup tonight. Although its only preseason, we all have high expectations for the man who holds the heart of this city. 11-12 predictions 75 GP 32 G 63 A 95 PTS all draped up in E-Town Silks. Let the games begin!

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  3. If Katz doesn't know how Hooterville Rexall's music and overall production quality make the team appear to out of town fans(assuming the locals all love it), its doubtful if he's going to care about a few measly nicknames.

    RNH sure knows how to strip the puck off the opposition.

    Pity about Gagner. He really looked like an NHL player that last game.

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  4. On the Oilers pre-season statistics site, they have the goalies listed based on GAA - highest to lowest.

    Doobie's at the top, in the middle are the prospects and the AHL replacement vet, and at the very bottom is... NK.

    Based on what I've been hearing from the MSM, there seems to be a concensus that "if" Devan is the superior player, he will get more games.

    Considering NK is below replacement level right now, I expect to see a a much younger starting goalie on Oct. 8.

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  6. I think it's jealousy at work.

    I mean, if you were stuck with a nickname like Hallsy, or Smytty, would you want the hot shot new kid to get a sweet nickname like "The Nuge"? Yeah, didn't think so. :P

    Someone here has to know some Oilers and set them straight. Hoppy. Ugh.

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  7. If it's going to be a bunny name how about Thumper? A bit dirty and relates to hockey at least.

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  8. Fastoil - the best nicknames have evolved through such a process so it might go something like that

    Nuggent-Hopkins -> Hoppy -> Thumper - Thumpy

    ... and thus a nickname is born and only those 'in the know' understand why that guy is called Thumpy

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  9. Hoppy sounds like a dog's name.

    I tought ''the Nuge'' was pretty bad too. Kinda like ''the shove''. (Even tough it misses a letter)

    Altough I admit it's pretty hard making a nickname around that. They could try to go off the charts and go without a link to the name.

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  10. Oilers will be hard-pressed to put together a hotter line than the Hoppy-Hallsy-Harski trio from Saturday.

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  11. On another note. What is up with teams/games without boxscores this year around?

    I know the games are not played in standard arenas, but damn me if NO ONE noted the goals/penalties.

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  12. Oilers Lines

    Smyth - Shawn Horcoff - Ales Hemsky
    Taylor Hall - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jordan Eberle
    Antti Tyrvainen - Eric Belanger - Ryan Jones
    Josh Green - Anton Lander - Ryan Keller

    Taylor Chorney - Jeff Petry
    Andy Sutton - Tom Gilbert
    Corey Potter - Taylor Fedun

    Nikolai Khabibulin
    Yann Danis

    Love seeing smyth/horc/hemmer together again. That could still be a really good line. Can't wait to see what magic hoppy, Hall, and Eberle can weild.

    Chorney-Petry could either go well....or not so well. Interested to see Sutton get into a game, and Can't wait to see more of Fedun and Potter.

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  13. Wunderbar: do not encourage "Hoppy". That's just terrible.

    Since we seemed to enjoy speculating why Peckham seemed to be getting so much preseason work, anyone have an explanation for why Eberle seems to be in every game?

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  14. ECH...what a crummy day to be missing a game. That lineup would certainly be interesting to watch.

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  15. Taylor Hall deserves a superhero type name. Fireball or something like that. He's so disco. RNH hasn't earned a name yet. Cerebro!

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  16. I had a korean roommate who couldn't pronounce R. So she'd always call me Lion. RNH could be Lion. In Spain, somehow Ryan is too complicated. So they say Ry, rolling the R. Ryan sounds just like Rain with an Australian central coast accent. I used to get awful introductory jokes like "and this is Roin, you know, like as in precipitation. Ha!". We could call RNH Roin.

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  17. Delooper...lay off the sauce already, it's only 11:15 in the morning...

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  18. Any chance we see Poo play against the Oil tonight?

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  19. Phoenix should sign Pisani as well and reunite the Latrine Line of Pisser, Poo and POS.

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  20. Excrement all over the ice! Fantastic idea!

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  21. Patty O Lanterns is doing what he does best, scoring in the preseason.

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  22. I'm certain there's a Khabibulin joke in there somewhere as well.

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  23. Gagner with a high ankle sprain if anyone missed the en masse twitter announcements.

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  24. I'm partial to Stranglehold as a handle. And they can play riffs during games just for the hell of it.

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  25. Fedun is impressing me a lot. Where the heck did this guy come from? Seems to be a bit one of our best kept secrets... he really came out of nowhere amid all our other prospect hype. I'm anxious to see more of him to ensure it isn't a fluke.

    Oh and how I love the right-handed D's.

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  26. The interesting thing with tonight's lineup is that it looks like it could be the opening night center group given Gagner's injury.

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  27. If I miss the live feed will I be able to watch it later in the evening? Won't be home till 9.

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  28. It's gonna be a dog fight between that sweetdish beauty Lander and the beloved Golden Nuge for the roster spot. Hope we keep both Omsie and Humpsky!

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  29. We as fans in the new era of social media have to take it upon ourselves to come up with bad-ass nicknames and not trust the players to do so.

    Remember when Smitty's were Gators and the top trios were called the "Legion of Doom" or the "Line of Fire"?

    The responsibility rests with us! :)

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  30. Personally as far as the nickname thing, I have been rolling with "Nugget", and also "Chicken McNugents."

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  31. One of my favourite things from the real world:

    A Rysing Hem Line.

    But considering they'll probably never score a goal from farther than 12 feet out, maybe "The Short Yardage Team" or "Goal Line Offense" would be more apropos.
    ;o)

    For RNH:

    Duke Nukins

    Although I like The Golden Nugent above better. And Ted.

    If we went with Golden Nugent and continued the casino theme, maybe we should just call them "The Pass L¡ne."

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  32. With "Nugent" in his name, i can't believe that Teddy wouldn't be the obvious choice. Even if it's taken.

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  33. Best thing about "Ted" is, he won't understand why it's his nickname, lol.

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  34. I am all for MadMan for nick could be the th Oil City mad man.. now if a fox tail is hanging out the back of the pants dyed Oiler colors it would be too much.

    So who thinks Avery is is right and Simmonds crossed the line. Whatever used to get said on the ice is left on the ice.
    I guess would the term douche bag be more relevent? Or Colonic catcher? wth... play Xbox 360 online u get called that every time u kill some kid.

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  35. Swabubba, I think those grammatical liberties were a bit more offensive than the supposed language used on ice in a hockey game.

    I think Avery is just trying to get back at someone the same way he's been pilloried in public. Bob Mackenzie retweeted an official who said that kind of talk happens every game.

    Ted is great nickname - simple, obscure and catching. Unfortunately Cyclone or Cannonball never really stuck for Hallsy.

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  36. (fpb)...I tought ''the Nuge'' was pretty bad too. Kinda like ''the shove''. (Even tough it misses a letter)


    Ted Nugent's heyday was long before your time, fpb, but his nickname was pronounced "NooG" or "NewG," not "Nudge." As in, not the verb for a slight "shove," but a play on the Motor City Madman's last name (pronounced "NewGent").

    Either way, it isn't anything to Wango Tango about.

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  37. I'm doubting that "Nuge The Stooge" is going to catch on.

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  38. I would hope they would find a place for Petrell but I doubt they will.

    It would be nice to get rid of 28-67, wouldn't it?

    Note: I'm not new to this argument as I slammed both contracts pretty much the day they were signed.

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  39. Was part of a 2 man vegas albatross today. Man how sweet it was.

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  40. How about just "Duke" or "Regent" Gives a RNH a little royalty flair.

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  41. Is that what the kids are calling it these days fpb..?

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  42. Is a 2 man Vegas Albatross something like a dutch rudder? I'm not sure if that works with only 2 people...

    Verification word "soddiz" - yeah, i'm not touching this one

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  43. Aw, man. No Pouliot tonight by the looks of things. We'll have to settle for POS and Torres (watch out, Hemksy!).

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  44. I would hope they would find a place for Petrell but I doubt they will.

    It would be nice to get rid of 28-67, wouldn't it?


    Its a little early to give Petrell a roster spot. He is new to North America and has to get used to the smaller rink, faster pace and bigger players.

    I know you don't like 28 but why would Petrell be able to step in cold and play any better than him?

    If Petrell is going to run around he will have to learn how to fight/turtle/ survive when playing against other team's ruffians. I can't see 1/2 year in OKL hurting him or Lander.

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  45. The thing with Petrell though is that he's 27 years old.I can see him being patient for 10/20/40 games,but a full season or two?
    I agree he doesn't bump Jones off the roster,but Brule?

    The Gagner injury probably gives Brule a little breathing room though.

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  46. Ry Nu-Ho
    The Rhino

    The NUGE

    Personally, I like Sexy Imagery.

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  47. The thing with Petrell though is that he's 27 years old.I can see him being patient for 10/20/40 games,but a full season or two?


    You are right. Matheson was saying somewhere that he might have an out clause in his contract that he could exercise if he was stuck in OKL all season.

    He likely will get a shot anyway when injuries hit. Eager is still hurting and he might get his spot right off the bat.

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  48. Apparently Omark has that same out clause.
    I've been watching pre-season on grainy,choppy internet feeds,but supposedly Petrell is a top notch PK'er.That and his size could win the day-either way,he'll get some games this year-may not be opening night but he'll get his games.

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  49. There really aren't a ton of good ones (hockey nicknames that is). I think it's been lamented here before.

    And the best ones aren't a play on the name either so.... we'll just have to wait until/if he grows into one.

    Hoppy ain't it, tho!

    Some good ones, though:
    Killer
    Grapes
    Tiger
    The Rat
    Gump

    And (thanks, Wikipedia) maybe the worst?
    Chicken Parm

    I lie you not.

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  50. At least Chicken Parm is a post-playing career nickname.

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  51. There is a guy that works for my company nicknamed Beef Dip.Guess what he orders for lunch everyday?

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  52. Rhino, I like that one, too bad it doesn't really suit RNH, but a good nickname nonetheless.

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  53. Psyched Up about the game!
    The Oilers past & future collide tonight.
    And we vote for "Noogie" as the nickname for RNH.
    Seconded??? Or Thirded I suppose...
    !!!GOILERS!!!

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  54. As in "He`s so smart and silky you`ll feel like he gave you one"
    A Noogie that is.
    or Noogs for short...

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  55. Why do I have the feeling this intro will be better than the actual game...

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  56. Jesus, Sutton is a big boy... Looked like Shaq walking down the tunnel...

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  58. LMHF#1

    click the "watch live right now" above the big centre photo, not the little link off to the right

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  59. You're hitting "watch live" and getting the game? I just get Octane videos... Is this some karmic redemption from my prior post?

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  60. Thank you.

    That website is so busy its lucky I don't fall into seizures every time I log on.

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  61. Taylor Hall wakes everyone up with a nice dash.

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  62. Man the Oilers are a boring team early in games. Nothing happening right now, very little activity. Like a Sunday drive.

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  63. Well that's even more impressive fpb.
    Can we call Hall dash riprock?

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  64. Gerta: He's got some Bedrock twist in him, no doubt. :-)

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  65. LT: it doesn't help that they're playing Phoenix. I'm having horrid flashbacks to the late 90s Devils (though the Coyotes are clearly not as talented).

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  66. I don't like to rag on people too badly, but I think I'll need to mute Jack Michaels. "high toss"? and constantly using trapezoid???

    UGH....

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  67. So, Hall may not match Stamkos' sophomore point total of 95, but I would not be surprised in the least if he matches his shot total of 297.

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  68. I think he made the team before Gagner's injury, nice to see him score in preseason.

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  69. Vision??? Old Noogie could lose an eye & still see the ice better than most.

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  70. Jones is a disaster in his own end, has no idea where to go and who to cover.

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  71. Ryan the Elder has decreed that the Younger Ryan is to be called "Nuge."

    That, and obviously something about getting the puck in deep and going to the net.

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  72. Plain old Ted would do but kudos to the mullet for showing the most imagination he ever has.

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  73. Ryan the elder. Now THAT is a nickname worthy of 94.

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  74. How long will Gagner be out? ANyone hearhow bad it was? I know it's a high ankle sprain just curious how bad?

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  75. jjwiens57.
    week to week is what I read on the Oilers site.

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  76. Long enough to look at Lander for a few games IMHO.

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  77. Re Gagner: Stauffer mentioned it would be between a week and a month. Don't know if he had additional information or was just trying to say "week-to-week" differently.

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  78. Don't knock it... Many men make a living off of "just trying to say "week-to-week" differently."

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  79. Gagner out a week to a month according to the broadcast team if I heard it correctly.

    I actually don't mind, there are a few forwards I'd like to see more of.

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  80. Just caught the 1st period highlights. Who was that with the softass backpass from pur crease up the slot to nobody? Looked like Jones but don't want to blame him if it's unwarranted.

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  81. Can we call him Oates? Cause that looked like Hull.

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  82. If the Nuge keeps feeding Hall like that he might match Stamkos' numbers. It's getting hard not to get excited about those three young fellas!

    I hope Ebs doesn't feel left out.

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  83. Just wow. You can't really defend that - too much talent

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  84. spOILer: It was Jones, I remarked something like "nice pass by Jones" right after it in the comments.

    He's a beauty.

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  85. BoSox are shattered, their brains been battered, shattered.

    Doobie doobie.

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  86. Fantastic back-check by Hall there. A two way game to boot? Stopit!

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  87. I suppose that pass by RNH eliminates any doubt whether or not he will be in Edmonton come regular season.

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  88. Is it just me or is there a visible difference between the kids' PP and the vets' PP. The former looks dangerous and the latter looks sluggish.

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  89. Not watching but I am pretty excited to see that pass in replays. It better be good, the way all of you are hyping it.

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  90. Nice jump by Gilbert on that play. I know he gets zero notice but he's a heckuva player.

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  91. This is fun to watch.

    That last PP clinched it for me - RNH is on the team - He's a puck hound

    And Smyth looking like the Smyth of old on the PP - great puck retrieval and control along the boards.

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  92. bookie: It's a "Doug Weight on steroids" saucer. It was f-a-s-t.

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  93. "windows of opportunity... that he didn't push the door through"


    ?


    i'll have whatever Stauffer is having.

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  94. I'm now firmly in the "Nuge makes the team" camp. I really have a hard time believing that he's best off playing against junior players... What a waste that would be for him.

    Still thinking about that pass...

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  95. That line will be broken up about the turn of NEXT century.

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  96. Nice jump by Gilbert on that play. I know he gets zero notice but he's a heckuva player.

    P.A. Guy: Oilers goal scored by #4, TAYLOR HALL!!

    Crowd: ROAR!!

    P.A. Guy: Assisted by #93, RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS!

    Crowd: ROAR!!

    P.A. Guy: ... and #77, TOM GILBERT!

    Crowd: * crickets *

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  97. Wow, what another nice goal. These guys are good!

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  98. This game reminds me of the game last year where the kids showed really well, I think Paajarvi got a hatrick

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  99. @ Bruce,

    I noticed that too. It's a shame - they'll miss him when he's gone.

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  100. So, does this line go in the regular season? Lots of discussion about how RNH needs a mentor (veteran presence). Does he?

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  101. So, that kid line is really working out eh? Wow.

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  102. Stauffer: "Is there anyone else on the Oilers who could make those passes?"

    Ummm, Hemsky is pretty good on the pass. Eberle is no slouch. Gagner maybe too...

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  103. I can't stop watching - what will they do on the next shift?

    Tell me this is Phoenix's C team to bring me back to earth.

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  104. It would be great if Khabibulin could let in a soft goal here. I'd rather not have coaches/fans/management boosting him based on a preseason shutout. That's just the kind of thing that could be used to obscure his general failings.

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  105. Clay: I'm not sure there's another player on the team who could have made that bullet pass. Nor another player who could have converted it. Both pass and finish were spectacular.

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  106. Cactus: I can see the postgame media conference:

    Renney: "Well, the offense eventually got going but the key was those early saves by Nik."

    Tambellini: "the tough thing now is we have to wait until next summer to talk extension with Nik."

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  107. There you go Cactus. Even Stauffer says it's ugly

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  108. wow, they went from the diamond to the displaced collapsed parallelogram on that PK goal against.

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  109. I feel like the universe is correcting itself...
    Now we only need to... Khabi no.

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  110. Ask and ye shall receive, I suppose. I'll take it. The body of evidence has to reach a critical pass to convince the holdout Khabby fans.

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  111. Lander is genuinely pissed about running out of time there.
    Good man.

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  112. ok, it might not be as sexy as watching the 1st picks at work, but that shift by 10-83-94 after the GA was awesome. Just puck possession, possession, possession.

    suress - the inverse of duress, how our veteran first line handled that shift

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  113. I am not sure NK is toblame when it is 2 Coyotes alone vs him.

    my verification word is vigra...

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  114. Smid was badly out of position on that one, but the unidentified human remains that used to be his partner even more so. Was it Petry? That was ugly.

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  115. Ok, even though he was left alone, NK looked bad on that (just saw replay)

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  116. Ah, that explains it. They're saying Chorney.

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  117. Bra and underpants says the Oilers are close to trading a defenseman. Weird.

    I wonder why they played Peckham 4 times already? Showcase?

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  118. LT: could it be a Peckham + forward prospect for a top 4? Maybe a team with depth is interested in a deal but wanted an NHL d-man coming back.

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  119. @LT,

    I wonder if she meant ... trading for a defenceman ??

    I saw an earlier tweet saying NYR were interested in Peckham.

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  120. Bra and panties tweeted a couple of days ago that the Rangers are interested in Peckham

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  121. DSF: I've demoted her to bra and underwear. Until she gets another one correct, no bra and panties and definitely no fussy britches.

    I have my standards.

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  122. She also said Nashville was scouting us.Something around Peckham and Blum?

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  123. @LT

    Underpants?

    How old are you anyway?

    Skivvies, gaunch, unmentionables, dainties?

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  124. Gerta: we can dream, but I don't know that we're that lucky.

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  125. Well if it's a D for D trade the D man coming back better have a right handed stick.

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  126. I've got the wonky internet feed but I'm still OK-I think we're in commercial right now.

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  127. @LT,

    at the current rate we will start calling her grannie panties ... LMAO

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  128. Remember when short shorts for the ladies were called "hot pants"? I remember learning that from an Archie comic.

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  129. I realize Fedun is popular in these parts, but I don't see what you guys are seeing. We have many other better options.

    Saw him bad.

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  130. So Jaques got 5 games for his shenanagans against Vancouver.

    I don't once remember him showing that kind of truculence with Edmonton.

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  131. When I was a kid, I bought a K-tel record with a recording of James Brown called "Hot Pants." I remember my Dad taking a VERY dim view when he heard that one.

    Funny what you remember.

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  132. Whole game feed was great until final 5 minutes. Freezes and jumps 5-10 seconds

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  133. did everyone's feed just go to crap?


    No, your computer is just overheating. It needs ventilation. Drill holes in it.

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  134. LT: if danny is still having issues with the website. I saw he was posting in the last game thread. I can probably help. You can pass on my contact: cadooo@gmail.com

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  135. No, your computer is just overheating. It needs ventilation. Drill holes in it.

    Vodka is not an acceptable cooling fluid.

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  136. Was it just me or did Gilbert absolutely crush someone behind the Oilers net on that last powerplay?

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  137. I saw that too Nicholas..big cheer from the crowd..it looked like Gilbert.

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  138. Jack and Bob revel in inane trivia. Then Bob can't figure out why they don't put Belanger on for the final faceoff.

    Hey Bob, it was icing. Stop name dropping and watch the game. Sheesh.

    Hemsky set a personal record for rushes ending up behind the net. He needs some at bats.

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  139. I think Bob follows this blog Ducey-he just corrected himself on the post game show re: icing.

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  140. Clay: I'm not sure there's another player on the team who could have made that bullet pass. Nor another player who could have converted it. Both pass and finish were spectacular.

    Bruce: I assume you're referring to the cross ice pass on the second Hall goal?

    My thought process up in 219 when I saw that was something like this:

    "Holy shit, not even Hemsky makes that pass. Weight wouldn't either. Wait a sec...the only Oiler I remember who makes that pass is...."

    I won't finish the sentence for fear of sacrilege, but you can probably guess who I'm referencing.

    Maybe he's ready now, maybe he's not...it was Phoenix tonight after all. But for a guy who was luke-warm on RNH leading up to the draft, he sure as heck made a believer out of me tonight. Passing, deceptive speed, world-class vision. Develop a shot, and he's going to be compared to that "other" NHL centreman who was born in Burnaby and was drafted some 23-odd years ago. I seem to recall him doing OK for himself, despite only being 5-11, 185....

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  141. I won't finish the sentence for fear of sacrilege, but you can probably guess who I'm referencing.


    Totally agree, that was Robbie Schremp hockey if I ever saw it.

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  142. HBomb: Yeah, the bullet pass. The 2-0 goal, Hall's first. The other one was more a feather pass that could have been made by a few different guys, nice play, but that first assist was Elite.

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  143. Some of us stuck up for a Kid line back when Ted was drafted. Others said balance it out with a vet on each line. I still think it should be the kids together and make the old farts fight the fight.

    And I am curious about the Zone shift and Qual Comp tonight. By my eye, the kids were given every chance and the heavy sleddin was pulled by the older dogs. Either way, they rose to the occasion. Pretty, it was.

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  144. I'm still withholding judgment on RNH till I see him against full NHL speed and force. But he has passed every test so far, and each of these steps must be building confidence. It looks like he's gonna feel like he belongs at the next level.

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  145. spOILer: A logical viewpoint which I have been maintaining throughout. Way too early even yet to say "send him down" or "he makes the team automatically". I remain surprised by how many seem to have made their minds up long since. Let's take our time and see what he can do.

    But early evidence suggests that might be quite a lot. Counting the Young Stars he has suited up for six games now and has at least a point in all of them.

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  146. Oh god I hope we don't trade with the Rangers, I know Sather is on Lowe crazy pills with free agents, but by god that man can trade.

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  147. No, your computer is just overheating. It needs ventilation. Drill holes in it.

    I heard that makes your computer faster, too!

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