
The wheeling and dealing is underway in this summer's NHL trade/free agent frenzy. The Oilers need to make a few deals like the "Kyle Brodziak for picks" trade at the draft last year. The problem for Steve Tambellini is probably this: the players he wants to move out are not getting any interest and his keepers are in heavy demand. What to do? Well let's start by listing the players/prospects that are likely unavailable:
- Hemsky, Penner, Gagner, Gilbert, Whitney, Paarjavi, Eberle, #1 overall selection.
- Horcoff, Brule, Pouliot, Cogliano, Potulny, Jones, Stortini, Smid, Khabibulin, Deslauriers or Dubynk.
This group will see some changes over the summer, more on that later. Three goaltenders, one more defender, and some pretty good forwards who are either overpaid or have some flaw on their resume. Still, useful players and a few with long careers (likely) ahead. Now, let's list the players who may have some impact on the 10-11 roster but shouldn't be counted on to fill important roles:
- Omark, Vande Velde, Peckham, Plante, Chorney, Jacques, Stone
The next group would be the UFA target list but we don't know the names (although it'll be full of defensemen) and that's for another post. Finally, we have the group of players who (for whatever reason) the team will try to move this summer:
- Souray, Moreau, Nilsson, O'Sullivan
These 4 players don't have to move, in fact I wonder if they can move that Souray contract at all. But if we were to ask Tambellini the question and in a moment of weakness he let down his guard, we have good evidence these are the 4 men on his hit list.
- Souray: For a team like the Rangers or Dallas, Souray has some value. The Oilers could take back a problem contract of their own in the deal and that could save the day. I don't know that there's any urgency to get this done before July 1, so wouldn't call it a likely scenario this week.
- Nilsson or O'Sullivan: I was very interested to see what Nashville did yesterday, sending away Jason Arnott. The return (Halischuk) was a physical winger and the Preds need to add offense. I don't think this is a team that will chase a Spezza, so someone like O'Sullivan or Nilsson might fit the bill. This deal (if NAS wants either player) would likely come this week.
- Moreau: I think this is a player who might move this week for a late pick. If he doesn't get done this week, then a buyout looms. I'll bet beer he isn't back in the fall.
Next up, let's make up a list of players other NHL teams will want from Tambellini. I think this group will end up answering the question "who goes first" later in the week.
- Smid: Remember when the Avs dealt Ryan Smyth to LAK and the return was inexpensive D with NHL experience? The Oilers have very little depth at the position and it would make little sense to deal him, but this is a player of interest for other NHL teams. This is about where the Oil dealt Matt Greene, too.
- Peckham: I can see an NHL team asking after "Wreckum" because he's done his minor league time, played against tough opponents in that very difficult league, and is on the verge of regular NHL employment.
- Brule: He scored 15EV goals last season and was a lottery pick. Still only 23, a team could absolutely see him as an attractive top 6F option and ask about him.
- Cogliano: He's been in the NHL for three seasons now and has averaged 15 goals a season. It isn't too hard to imagine that another NHL team might see him as a talented kid who struggled with ham-handed linemates last season.
- Potulny: If you can't trade Nilsson but teams are offering you value for Potulny, wouldn't you consider it? 7 powerplay goals last season. He could fetch something nice.
- Pouliot: I think he showed enough to get another season with the team, but his injury history and establishing himself by sundial must bring its own frustration. He is a very useful player and certainly has value.
- Dubnyk or Deslauriers: One of them is apparently heading out of town and I think another NHL team might offer a reasonable pick. The Oilers have suffered through most or all of the painful development period and both of these goalies will get long auditions in an NHL town over the next few seasons.
- Riley Nash: There seems to be a disconnect between team and player, with Nash apparently spending another season at Cornell in 10-11. There was a very specific rumor out of Boston naming the player coming in return (Lehtonen) from a year ago (it is in Matty's EJ stuff again today) so there's probably a deal to be made this week.
Here is my list for "who goes first" from most to least likely:
- Andrew Cogliano
- Gilbert Brule
- Marc Pouliot
- Riley Nash
- Ryan Potulny
- Dubnyk or Deslauriers
- Sheldon Souray
- Patrick O'Sullivan
- Robert Nilsson
- Ethan Moreau
- Ladislav Smid
- Theo Peckham
Great article LT. Reading the runes, is there any indication that this week may see a gutted roster?
ReplyDeleteI think that Moreau may be here this fall as a link to the work ethic the Oilers feel that was lost due to all of the 'free agents' signed like Souray.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I am not confident enough to even bet a beer on it.
Glasgow Oil - LT is predicting a big trade any moment now (since 2007)
ReplyDelete:)
Glasgow: I think the Oilers have to offload some players either before or during the draft. If you look at the signed forwards plus rfa's:
ReplyDelete1. Horcoff
2. Penner
3. Hemsky
4. O'Sullivan
5. Nilsson
6. Moreau
7. Jones
8. Stortini
plus rfa's
9. Gagner
10. Cogliano
11. Pouliot
12. Brule
13. Potulny
14. Jacques
plus top end prospects
15. MPS
16. Eberle
17. Omark
18. Hall/Seguin
The club needs to make room. If they wait until the buyout window closes AND move no one before the draft then they are stuck.
I think they make a couple of moves by this time next week.
LT:
ReplyDeleteGlencross wasn't a casualty last year while we were waiting for Heatley. He was a casualty of the Great White Whale (Hossa) hunt two offseasons ago.
I think Souray can be traded at the draft, he stated he won't block any deal from the Oil.
ReplyDeleteif you believe tambo's public statement, his priority is to move the guys who don't want to be here. IMO, that puts Souray and Ethan at the very top of every list, even if it means sending them to the AHL.
ReplyDeletedorito: Oh, damn. I'll fix it.
ReplyDeleteI've heard rumblings about the possibility of Souray going to San Jose. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. With Rob Blake retiring, I could see San Jose having a need for someone like Souray. But looking at their roster I don't see them offering up any of the players that they have under contract. I imagine they'll sign pending RFA's like Pavelski and Setoguchi as they seem to have become part of their core. All others that we might be interested in are UFA's who we could pick up on July 1 for nobody in return. And with the Nabokov/Marleau negotiations going on, they have little room to take on a contract like Souray's anyway. So with all that being said, I think there is 0% chance Souray will join public enemy #2 (i.e. Heatley) in San Jose.
ReplyDeleteNillson and POS are actually worth buying out as their contribution can be replaced with the savings.
ReplyDeleteNashville does not spend money like the deals that those two have. Hope they don't end up here, doubt they end up there.
I think packages may be necessary for deals to happen. What would you trade Hemsky+Horcoff for?
We may be in a period of change for its own sake.
I could see Souray going to SJ. He is similar to Blake in most ways, PP player with big shot, physical, not the fastest guy, as well as having a similar cap hit. Realistically if there are no other offers out there all it might take from SJ to get it done could be a second or third rounder or other combination of picks/low level prospects.
ReplyDeleteAgree with L.T. That 18 is gone.
ReplyDeleteIf I had to put the mortgage on one move, that's the one.
13 will be the center piece if they make a bigger move. If they don't get Boston's 15th, he's probably what they use to get another 1st.
If they do get another 1st with moving 13, then I see him being a piece of the Souray trade to make the return higher quality.
Barring that, 13 for a young Dman.
Getting anything for 19 would be a bonus. His performance vis a vi his salary is terrible. I think he is the most likely buy out candidate behind 18.
If anyone stays its 12. Kenta being part of the org cannot be totally discounted, and really he produced not far off where you should expect a 2M player to produce.
He had a positive RelCorsi (easy minutes though with 13/14RelQC and 2/14RelQT)
His 5v5 production was 1.49 pts/60 putting him in the neighbourhood of Hanzel, Cole, Giroux, Brower, J.Winchester. (Obv QC makes some of these other players' numbers more impressive), but he's not far off what you should expect from a 2 Million winger.
I think evryone has soured on him because he can look like a 5M player at times, but doesn't sustain it, and isn't too hard on the puck, but the results are not far off of salary expectations.
I keep him and make Eberle take his job, not get it handed to him.
12's buyout number makes him an attractive buyout option, but someone smart like Poile will see value and get him for a song.
Nashville does not spend money like the deals that those two have. Hope they don't end up here, doubt they end up there.
ReplyDeleteThey're paying Sullivan, Erat, & Legwand all $4.0 mil or more, so I'd disagree. They're not exactly bursting at the seams with forward depth either after dealing Arnott.
Buffalo was mentioned today as a possible destination for Souray. If they lose Tallinder & Lydman to UFA, I can see it being a good fit. They have no 2nd rounder but three 3rd rounders in the draft.
What would you trade Hemsky+Horcoff for?
ReplyDeleteHorcoff has a NMC
Indeed, Mr Matheson mentioned Souray to Buffalo. He added that the Sabres don't care to re-sign Lydman & Tallinder.
That Versteeg + Sopel thing would be very doable for the Oilers
I'm not totally convinced that either Souray or Moreau are going anywhere.
ReplyDeleteMoreau played decently at the end of last year with Horcoff and Pisani. A similar combination this year could get the most out of thecaptain. Can a similar unit play against the toughs again next year and hold their own? Say Moreau-Horcoff-Stone? Or is it better to be rid of the headache?
As for Souray.... Is there any chance he'd be welcomed back into the fold? Can the fences be mended? The reason I ask is that a healthy and happy Souray would most likely be better than any return fetched in a trade.
Irreconcilable differences is just another way of saying my pride is hurt. If both sides would talk to each other and resolve things we get an elite PP and offensive threat and a big physical presence in our end.
Of course I'm sure the Oilers could live with a big strong defensive d-man without the PP presence if they could get one in return for Souray.
In the end I would rather see Souray stay if it can be managed. As for Moreau, I would rather see him go.
I am not as convinced as some that the roster will be much different this year minus the UFAs (Pisani, Comrie, Struwick etc).
ReplyDeleteMaybe the plan is let Moreau, Souray, POS etc up their value during the season (can it get any lower ??) and unload them during the season up until the deadline.
In the meantime, Steve T seems to go on and on about the A so maybe the newbies all go to Oklhaoma for stints while the above purge is exectuted. Time will tell.
That Sopel and Versteeg for a 2nd deal that Matty mentioned this morning would fill a couple of holes for the Oil. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to using Nashville's pick that way.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they'd take Nilsson too, as buying him out actually saves $83K of cap space and they need every penny they can get this year.
Who Goes first:
ReplyDelete1) Pouliot (a small move first in a similar trade to the Brodziak deal)
2) Cogliano (a centre piece in the biggest deal of the summer, just have a feeling that Mr. Dithers starts small and then goes charging into this deal).
3) Dubnyk or Deslauriers (we can have three goalies)
4) Souray (after free agency, to whom ever struck out)
5) Nilsson (I think the kid still has some value: he has talent he is just lazy/stupid/etc)
6) Moreau (buyout or for a sixth/seventh round pick at the draft)
7) O'Sullivan (I just do not see his value to anyone: more expensive then Nilsson and less useful)
8) Brule (I think the Oilers would like to sign him to a value contract and have him in the bottom six, it is difficult but not impossible).
9)Potulny (same as Brule, but is cheaper. so more possible)
10) Smid (the Oilers are too thin on the blue)
11) Peckham (seriously what is his top trade value: a 4th round pick? Shouldn't the Oilers be attempting to get a dman like him with one of our late picks?).
Your picture of Cogliano scoring on Fleury gave me an idea: If Gonchar bolts from Pittsburgh, would they have interest in Souray?
ReplyDeleteGonchar made $5 mil last year & he's 36. By the sounds of it, he wants 3+ years at close to the same salary but he's in the 35+ contract zone. Like Souray, he's only averaged 55 games the past 3 seasons.
Souray only has 2 years left, cap hit of $5.4 but actual salary of $4.5 and could be bought out if things don't work out.
If anyone remembers Gonchar's matador on Moen's goal in Game 7, don't you think the Pens would like a little more grit on the backend?
No mention of Nash, LT? I think he should be on the list of guys in play.
ReplyDeleteI could see a swap of Colburne and Nash in order for the Oilers to lay off Hall. Boston still gets a good prospect in Nash but the Oilers get the better one (Colburne) and don't have to worry about Nash jumping the fence next year.
This isn't to say they shouldn't turn over the roster, just I don't think they have a big numbers problem.
If I am Tambo I try that trade as part of seeking Boston's other first. Thats if they don't bite on Hemsky or Penner.
I also don't see the Oilers needing to trade a lot of guys up front. Of your list, getting rid of POS or Nilsson, Moreau, and Potulny and Jacques opens up enough spots to add a prospect and a tough third line centre. They also need to keep two guys in the pressbox in case the injury curse returns.
Ducey: Forgot all about him. I'll add him to the list.
ReplyDeleteDid you leave Eberle out deliberately? If not, where would you place him?
ReplyDeleteI think Moreau has to go on the basis of the lack of leadership he showed last year. Some time has passed now and it's easy to put that stuff in the rearview mirror but the once loyal soldier went AWOL last season and he has to go, if nothing else to get some of the stink of last season off the squad.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with those thinking Nilsson might stay. Of the 4 smurfs, one has no trade value (POS), one supposedly does (Cogs) and one is essentially a journeyman at this point with limited upside (Comrie). I would think Nilsson gets one last shot and I agree with the post that suggests he'll need to beat out Eberle to stick. Crazy at it sounds, if Pouliot has a good camp, I would give him one last shot as well. He seemed to be playing a smarter game towards the end of last year, realizing what his limitations are and playing to his strengths.
Walter: I have him in the untouchable category with Paarjavi and the #1 overall pick.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be adverse to hanging onto Nilsson and Pouliot.
ReplyDeleteI expect Nashville is clearing cap space to make room for Patrick Sharp.
ReplyDeleteI think the blogosphere is particularly weak at knowing what assets your team has and how other teams value them. That is not a criticism of any of the posts here but I wonder if we value our assets too highly and other teams, as a result of our record, value at a significantly lower value.
ReplyDeleteAs an example I would look at Cogliano and see a potential over performer elsewhere. Ditto Souray If you needed a tough, solid PP d man I would take a flyer on him. But I also remember Rich Winter coming on Stauffer's show 2-3 years ago and was quite clear that his contract was a noticeable overpay in terms of term and dollars. I think back on his comments and they seem pretty accurate today in hindsight
Ah, my bad.
ReplyDeleteOn an unrelated note, I haven't bought in to the idea that we have two many forwards under contract. The reason we did poorly last year in every league was that we had AHLers in the NHL and ECHLers in the AHL. If keeping a bunch of low-end prospects around is all it takes to keep OKC successful and help our top-end prospects get good experience, then I'm all for it.
Corsi said...
ReplyDeleteI expect Nashville is clearing cap space to make room for Patrick Sharp.
Highly unlikely that Chi-town trades him within the division (if at all).
Proposal
ReplyDeleteTo MTL:
G Jeff DesLauriers
LW Ethan Moreau
To EDM:
C/W Maxim Lapierre
late pick
Mind you, I'd still look to move Khabibulin after that and pick up a veteran stopgap.
RT40,
ReplyDeleteDoesn't it make more sense for MTL to go after that same cheap veteran goalie now?
This is completely off topic, but I have to share that I think once the World Cup end in September, or whenever, there should be moratorium put in place on the use of the word "beautiful" to describe anything, whatsoever, for a minimum of 4 years.
ReplyDeleteIt should also be mentioned in evaluating the Arnott trade, that Arnott's no-trade clause and short list of teams probably hampered the return somewhat.
ReplyDelete@spOiler:
ReplyDeleteIf they decided that they could begin the playoffs with Halak and Price, I don't think it makes a huge difference for them.
It would be a huge priority on MY list if I was MTL GM, but with the exception of Stephane Fiset, Jeff Hackett and Cristobal Huet, recent memory indicates that all their backups were younger than 26 at the time they played for them (Leighton, Aebischer, Garon, the list goes on...).
In my opinion, JDD is pretty much an established 1A goaltender in the league, despite what rough edges people may want to point out about his game. I think this season he showed he was capable despite a few blips and unless MTL can find a cheaper veteran goalie who is already signed to a decent contract with years left on it, I can't see MTL finding a better deal on the unrestricted market than the goalie they get in the RFA DesLauriers.
@rt40
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding? His SV% was poor, his rebounding was atrocious, and he does not offer even close to the level of consistency you want in your back-up, especially when your starter is equally unproven.
There is no way that any GM in this league, including Tambo, considers him a bona fide 1A tender.
I think a great point was made earlier: with this being the year of the UFA Goalie, why would Montreal trade a young player to us for a goalie that's not as good as what they could affordably pick up on July 1?
ReplyDeleteother John - for the most part fans always overvalue what their club has - it runs across clubs and across sports, its not just an Edmonton Oilers' blogosphere thing
ReplyDeleteThe cold hard truth is that a large number of Oilers players have very little value, no value or negative value at this moment.
The Canadians already have a good young French Canadian goalie, Cedrick Desjardins.
ReplyDeleteHe has played 75 games for Hamilton in the last 2 years posting a .919 both years. JDD's high water mark in the AHL was .908
He's already better than JDD and is French Canadian (from New Brunswick, but played in the QMJHL)
Montreal has no need for JDD.
My guess is that Montreal picks up someone like Biron for a year, older and NHL reliable to back up Price, then bring Desjardins next year.
Montreal may be interested in a large French Canadian named JFFJ, but they aren't going to give you anything for him.
BD
ReplyDeleteThat really is my thesis...... people without a line into a GM suite (with any one of the 30 teams) have no idea how well their own team assets are considered by other teams. I do not think that is specific to the Oiler blogosphere at all.
I suspect there would be Philly bloggers who think Jeff Carter would get them a shot at 1st overall and it would not even be close
Having done up mock lineups several times this off-season, I definitely agree that the Oil have to move some bodies that we really don't want to see go (ex. a decision on Cogliano, Brule, Potulny... a decision on Stone, Jones, Jacques... do we bring back Comrie?, etc...).
ReplyDeleteI do hope the Oilers keep Potulny around because he seems to provide a good 3rd line level of play.. grit, determination, some goals. All for a nice bargain price. So I can't see us replacing him with someone for any cheaper without sacrificing some quality. Same goes for Brule.
But I have done the math too, and I just can't see how all these guys can be back this coming season. Of course, that goes under the assumption that we'll have some new prospect talent in the big show this year, mind you.
Also don't worry too much about being stuck with Moreau/Nilsson/O'Sullivan if they survive the buyout period. Don't forget that there is always waivers. It may not be the nicest way to go about it, but it ill work out.
Black Dog is so right. Many of the "assets" really aren't. Most of them are nice guys and are relatively well off. However I wouldn't spend $100 to go and watch a game. It's too painful. I like to be entertained and have some fun watching a game. The Oilers are far from that and Katz better keep his eye on this.
ReplyDeleteI think Smid and Cogliano have solid value. Brule a little less but still he'd get you something good in return.
ReplyDeleteWhat happens if the Oilers trade Brule and keep Nilsson, while acquiring a useful defender years from UFA status and a good number?
Would that work?
get whatever you can for souray,Moreau,nilson,pos,cogliano.that leaves the oilers with penner/gagner/hemsky....eberle/mps/hall or seguin...horcoff/jones/brule...stortini with either pouliot,jacques,potulny,stone fighting for the final 2 4th line spots with the other 2 being 13 & 14 forwards.on the back end we got Gilbert/Whitney/smid with 3 top six spots available & a seventh spot.strudwick is the perfect 7th guy who can play forward in a pinch.I think Peckham should be on the 3rd as a tough stay at home defenceman.depending on what's available July 1st & since we are rebuilding I say resign Aaron johnson.he played well enough for look on the 3rd pairing with Peckham.the farm will have plenty of young defenceman with petry,motin,chorney,& plante.o'marra is suppose to be a good faceoff guy & defensive center.the oilers could even be patient & start omark/mps/eberle in the minors together.this could give the oilers time to figure out what to do with the abundance of forwards.we do need a top 4 defenceman since we are ridding ourselves of souray...if the oilers want seguin they could promise to "layoff"hall & give them cogliano for the 15th pick & hunswick that young offensive defenceman.he could take over as the #4.
ReplyDeletehttp://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=532119&cmpid=oilers-twt-nhl_oilers
ReplyDeletemaybe all hope isn't lost on Riley Nash, this is sschulte from my iPhone btw
I think Moreau, Souray, POS, and JDD could all be traded (i.e. there is probably a market for them under if the right deal could be put together. I wouldn't worry about the return as much as getting them off the books. I would like to see us get some of the following: Knopka, Scott, Eager, Ladd and Boychuk. ( In a perfect world I world like Patrick Sharp if we could get him for the log term, i.e. an extension on to his remaining 2 years.)
ReplyDeleteI think Souray can be moved easily, though the return will be a bad contract. GM's love shiny objects and Souray's shot, PP production, and toughness, is exactly that.
ReplyDeleteHere's my list of most likely to least likely to move, starting with the most likely:
Cogliano (has real value), Deslauriers (AHL), Moreau (buy out), Souray, POS (buy out or midseason trade), Nash, Pouliot, Nilsson (won't be bought out), Brule (has value), Jacques (AHL???),Potulny, Peckham, Chorney, Stortini, Jones (team needs tough fourth liners?)
Penner-Hemsky-Horcoff (could get traded for younger players, but not as likely until midseason, I think)
Won't or can't be moved unless return is awesome:
MPS, Eberle, the first overall, Gagner, Whitney, Gilbert, Dubnyk, Khabi, Smid
If I'm Tambellini:
ReplyDeleteI try to trade Cogliano, Souray, and Nash, + for Rosival (yuck!) and Dubinsky (yay!). If that doesn't work, you need to get a tougher minutes forward and someone who can play D for Cogs and Souray and mid level prospects. Both deals can wait.
Then I buy out Moreau and POS. I send down Jacques and Deslauriers. I keep Rowbert unless and until Eberle outcompetes him. Then I trade Brule for a decent, youngish D-man. I keep Pisani at league minimum.
Penner-Horcoff-Hemsky
Hall-Dubinsky-Eberle/Nilsson
MPS/Stone-Gagner-Pouliot
Jones-Potulny-Stortini
Pisani
Whitney-Gilbert
Rosival-Smid
Johnson-Brule Return
FA, Peckham, Chorney
Khabi
Dubnyk
It's not a good team, but the kids will get decent minutes. Midseason you need to decide whether to trade Horcoff, Hemsky, or Penner for younger players who fit the rebuild, which will also help guarantee a lottery pick. Next year, the kids should be able to make more of a contribution, and you will have some cap room to buy some free agents, and maybe Khabi can be ditched. Then we start to win.
@LT re: 'the boy'
ReplyDeleteIf for whatever reason Vancouver Film School (VFS) isn't in the cards for him, depending on the program he's trying to get into, Capilano University shares a lot of the same professors as VFS. A nice little bonus is CapU is publicly funded where as VFS is private and that can add up to a lot of dollars.
I'm not trying to push CapU, but it's a nice alternative if he's set on getting into the vancouver film scene and VFS doesn't work out.
Black Gold: That is very cool, I didn't know that. He's obsessed with game design.
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ReplyDeleteOne of my sons friends went there. if you want I can try to get contact info to see if your son wants to talk to him re his experience
Brule scored as many EV goals as Toews, Alfredsson and Thornton and scored more than EV goals than Malkin, Tavares, Spezza, Getzalf, Stastny, Smyth, Horton ect..
ReplyDeleteHe was third behind JFJ and Stortini in hits with 115 in 65 games and lead our club in FO% at 52.6 percent.
thefaceofthefranchisesamgagner will be traded before Brule.
The Other John: That would be excellent.
ReplyDeleteTraktor: You may be right.
will be traded before Brule.
ReplyDeleteWill Brule suffer from Cogliano Syndrome next season?
Would others do as well as brule with the same Penneristic minutes?
Where in the Top 9 will "the Big Guy" slot in? [You know they want one]
What about The Eberle?
I agree with you Traktor:
ReplyDeleteBrule may be small, but he has 'lots of jam'. He has a terrific shot that he uses to score goals instead of deliver muffins. He has loads of speed as well. He is one of the young guys that developed last year despite injury and illness. He still needs some work on defensive positioning but will be worth much more than most any return we can expect.
"Will Brule suffer from Cogliano Syndrome next season?"
ReplyDeleteWill he play the season with Moreau and Stortini? Doubt it.
"Would others do as well as brule with the same Penneristic minutes?"
Anyone who plays with Penner plays well. Penner played better with Brule than he did with some of the more expensive options.
"Where in the Top 9 will "the Big Guy" slot in? [You know they want one]"
Either 1C, 2C or 3C. We need a big physical center.
"What about The Eberle?"
Got him penciled in with Brule and Penner.
Lowetide: "I think Smid and Cogliano have solid value. Brule a little less but still he'd get you something good in return.
ReplyDeleteWhat happens if the Oilers trade Brule and keep Nilsson, while acquiring a useful defender years from UFA status and a good number?
Would that work?"
I could handle seeing Brule traded if we get a young and solid defender (at a decent price). But other than that, I'd most likely rather see him stay here. He just brings a lot to the table, and I'm hoping the Oilers have only scratched the surface on reclaiming the Brule the Jackets thought they were getting when they drafted him.
It's true fans always overate their players/prospects.
ReplyDeleteLast week a Sens fan at work was saying Spezza for 1st overall pick was the consensus opinion at the Sens Blogs comment boards, I kind of laughed and he started explaining why it would be a good deal for the Oilers....I told him the 1st pick for Spezza wasn't mentioned once in any article or comments section I'd seen in the whole week after the story came out.
Traktor: I'm with you on Brule. A 23-year-old with jam who can play centre or wing, and can score, hit, and win a draw, seems to me a valuable commodity. I'm more than a little surprised by how many people just want to get rid of the guy.
ReplyDeleteYes he's got some warts, but as mentioned, he's still just 23. His progress was one of the few positive developments for the Oil drop in 2009-10. I want to see him given at least another season to see if he can make a further step.