- Boxcars: 49gp, 4-7-11
- Shots: 49
- Plus Minus: -15
- Corsi (Rel): -14.9 (12th among F's)
- GF/GA ON: 18-32
- 5x5/60: 1.26 (10th among F's)
- 5x4/60: nil
- Quality of Competition: 8th toughest among F's
- Quality of Teammates: 6th best among F's
- FO %: 40.0% in 5 FO's
- Offensive Zone Start FO %: 51.5% (1st-easiest among F's)
- Cap Hit: $525,000 (RFA this summer)
- What do these numbers tell us? Jacques played in very good situations and delivered well below expectations. Over the years his NHLE's suggested Jacques should be able to help a little offensively (say 15 goals in a full season) but he didn't deserve to stay in the lineup this season. He also played with some pretty good linemates a lot of the time and didn't get much done.
- How can these numbers be better? They can't, but Jacques would do less harm if he weren't in a featured role. His presence (when healthy) on the top 6F was distressing and he's ill-suited to playing minutes when offense is expected from the Oilers. The only excuse I can think of for such a ham-handed season is that his injury robbed him of the ability to make skill plays.
- Will they trade him? No. Based on the number of name-mentions he got in the Tambellini presser he should have paid to be a sponsor. Jacques-this, Jacques-that, it was horrible. Now, Tambellini isn't a smooth public speaker and sometimes a name or word gets caught in the brain (George Bush was textbook in this manner. How else can you explain the sentence "Brownie is doing a great job"?) so maybe it isn't a big deal.
- How is his health? Well he has back problems and anyone who has had a back problem knows that those injuries usually come back again and again. I don't know if he'll ever be completely healthy.
- Isn't this another of your boys? The guys you liked back when? Jacques did track well as a bottom 6F for quite some time but he hasn't really added much to his resume in the last couple of seasons. His back injuries are becoming an annual event.
- Why did Quinn play him on the top 2 lines for so long? The idea was to have a physical player on each line (Stone, Jacques, Moreau, Stortini, etc) but it became obvious early on that he just wasn't helping at all. Jacques cannot pass and he cannot take a pass, and that is vital at the NHL level. He didn't need his stick for many shifts this past season.
- How important is he to the Oilers? I think he's a full negative. Either he was injured last season (hands, brain, something) or he truly cannot play at the NHL level.
Performance in 2009-10: 49gp, 4-7-11 (.224)
Projected Role in 2010-11: His career is in jeopardy due to injury and ineffectiveness
He should be in the AHL next year, unless they're planning to lose another season for a high draft pick or something.
ReplyDeletePredictions Past 2009-10: 50gp, 3-7-10 (.200)
ReplyDeletePerformance in 2009-10: 49gp, 4-7-11 (.224)
Can't call it any better than that.
he can't pass, he can't take a pass
ReplyDeleteThis is the most maddening part of watching this guy play.
He is the poster boy for the play dying with him.
He cannot clear the puck 5 feet from his own blue line.
He loses puck battles against guys he outweighs by 30lbs or more.
His decision making it atrocious. His facial expression is: "Deer in the headlights", every time he has the puck"
He is a big man who fears making a mistake if he's actually involved in the play.
Saying that he had some shifts that didn't require a stick is a brilliant desription of his game.
He has had 2 back surgeries.
He has failed at many at bats at the NHL level, often with good team mates.
There is almost no reason to sign him, but the QO is low and he is a good AHL player, maybe he'll help OKC (if OTC actually looks at scoring chances. He says he does)
Someone posted his corsi with every team mate and they were all worse than away from him. Kinda like the anti-Horcoff.
I'm not great with Vic's TOI tool, if someone could repost his corsi with and away from all team mates, it would be appreciated. (Tyler? Help?)
Thanks for coming out J.F. Good luck to you in the future.
ReplyDeleteRiversQ said it best:
ReplyDeleteJacques can play without a stick and you'd still wouldn't know the difference.
if JFJ was gone next year, it wouldn't bother me!
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad I'm not the only one that sees the similarities between Bush and Tambellini
ReplyDeleteWoodguy - it's here
ReplyDeleteI think that Jacques can do a lot of good on the first or second line - of the AHL team.
ReplyDeleteI've never liked JF Jacques. When the Oilers started him on the first line at the start of the year, we should have known this team was doomed. JF Sucks.
ReplyDeleteThanks Coach.
ReplyDeleteThat is the most damning piece of evidence I have ever seen about the play of any player. Excellent work.
When I hear Tambellini talk about how losing JFFJ hurt the Oilers my ears start to bleed.
Joe Pavelski just scored his 5th of the playoffs and 2nd tonight.
He's a 7th rounder, 205th overall in 2003. 5'11 190lb, 2 years of University of Wisconsin after USHL.
Think he's covered the bet?
RFA at the end of this year.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that sees the similarities between Bush and Tambellini
ReplyDeleteThere is some truthiness in that statement.
I was aghast after listening to Tambellini's discourse at the year-end presser pertaining to JFJ.
ReplyDeleteTerrible fucking player.
At most, you offer him a two way contract. If he doesn't accept, you send a characteristic template memo to the remaining employees, "JF Jacques will no longer be with the Edmonton Oilers. We wish him well in his future endeavours."
"He should be in the AHL next year"
ReplyDelete"he can't pass, he can't take a pass"
Terrible fucking player."
"He is the poster boy for the play dying with him."
"He cannot clear the puck 5 feet from his own blue line."
"Jacques can play without a stick and you'd still wouldn't know the difference."
And yet he still has more trade value than Horcoff.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet he still has more trade value than Horcoff.
Cool story, bro.
Incredible the doublethink coming from leafs nation recently, how Kessel is superior to either Hall or Seguin, because:
ReplyDelete- neither have scored a single NHL goal.
- IF/Maybe etc, Kessel was right up there with Ovechkin in goal scoring last season.
and other similarly inane reasons.
Gotta love that number of JFJ/Chorney playing together. .220. That's 11 shots for for every 39 against.
ReplyDeleteWere there two worse players in the NHL this year?
Yeah unless Tambo needs to "evaluate" more - the book has pretty much been written on this guy - offer him a 2 way deal and ticket to OKC or just walk - he's just not an NHL player at this point.
ReplyDeleteI got no problem with jacques.he hits,fights & plays a high energy 6-9 minutes.he's a lowcost 4th liner/spare part or a frontline AHLer.he's a guy they need to keep in the organization here or on the farm.he's the perfect roleplayer in todays NHL.
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