We won't forget you, Fernando, or your heroism spring 2006. You are a man.
- Boxcars: 40gp, 4-4-8
- Shots: 54
- Plus Minus: -16
- Corsi (Rel): -12.3 (11th among F's)
- GF/GA ON: 23-44
- 5x5/60: 0.89 (12th among F's)
- 5x4/60: nil
- Quality of Competition: 1st-toughest among F's
- Quality of Teammates: 14th-least help available among F's
- FO %: 18.8% in 16 FO's
- Offensive Zone Start FO %: 46.4% (10th easiest among F's)
- Cap Hit: $2,500,000 (UFA this summer)
- What do these numbers tell us? Pisani once again played in the deep end, toughest minutes with little help. No surprise here, Pisani's done it before and did it with unproven talent. The difference this time is that the scoring rates were poor. How much you hang on Pisani is an open question, but I think we can agree that any player facing that level of difficulty is going to see his numbers hurt.
- How could they be better? They couldn't, the Oilers had a nightmare scenario: no better help was available and no one aside from Pisani could have handled the heavy lifting on RW. He'd been mentoring kids for a long time and he'd been facing tough minutes forever. Who else are you going to ask to do this job? Pisani played only half the season, but the Oilers got their money's worth.
- But Quinn rolled 4 lines. Well he did for much of the season but Pisani played the tougher opposition, just as he's done for years. Hemsky's injury meant that RW was in a state of flux all year long, Pisani being the veteran option.
- I think you're missing the boat here. Pisani's career is over, his contract is up and there's not much left in the tank. I don't know for sure--he might be done due to injury or may need to retire due to health--but this is a player who might be able to help out a real NHL team. He's unlikely to cost a lot, and maybe he'll have to go to a TC as an invite, but this is a player whose boxcars do not reflect the season he played for the Edmonton Oilers.
- Will the Oilers sign him? They're changing the guard and don't have a lot of cap room. I don't have a lot of confidence in Tambellini or Quinn in terms of nuance and digging deeper. Should Tom Renney become the head coach there's a chance Pisani gets an offer, but it might not be the best one on the table.
- Is he important to the organization? In an historic sense, yes. Fernando Pisani scored one of the biggest goals in the team's history and left a Smythe trophy on the table because the club didn't win G7 SCF. He has gone unrecognized (for the most part) despite heroic efforts to get back on the ice during difficult times. He is a man worthy of our respect, and my hope is that Pisani ends his career on his own terms. Whatever they may be.
By The Numbers
- 07-08 5x5 per 60m: 1.84
- 08-09 5x5 per 60m: 1.39
- 09-10 5x5 per 60m: 0.89
By The Numbers
- 07-08 5x4 per 60m: 1.55
- 08-09 5x4 per 60m: 1.89
- 09-10 5x4 per 60m: 0.00
Performance in 2009-10: 40gp, 4-4-8 (.200)
Projected Role in 2010-11: Role player on an NHL team (if he wants it and his health allows)
"Fernando Pisani was a coach's dream: a veteran who could help shelter the young players and instant chemistry for whatever wayward soul the GM dragged in."
ReplyDeleteThis is why I'm hoping they keep Pisani around. I understand the culture change, but Fernando is about as good a soldier as they will be able to find.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of deal he gets. If the numbers are right, I'd like to see him back. 1 yr deal/ <1 mil.
If he comes back it will be for less than a million, there's no doubt about that.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think that's it for him unless the Oilers bring him back. There was no interest at the deadline and I can't see a team brinigning in a guy with those health issues, never mind his injuries as well.
Terrific underrated player.
Fernando Pk rank last three years:
ReplyDelete07-08 #48
08-09 #22
09-10 #56
A first PK unit Forward for .7M
I gotta agree with BD on this. The lack of interest in Saint Fernando at the deadline is most likely prophetic on how other teams see him. I hope the Oil bring him back on a 1 yr deal and he's able to stay healthy. A healthy Pisani helps this team up and down the line-up.
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad we're not following the Detroit model this week, because this is exactly the sort of player they'd bring in for their fourth line to help shelter some kids.
ReplyDeleteGreat Oiler, but injuries have rendered him undependable, or worse than that - dependable to be on the IR.
ReplyDeleteI want a winning hockey organisation not a charity for "feel good" players, so I wouldn't resign him.
Lowetide:
ReplyDeleteBy your scenario, Ferny may be back as further, major changes appears to be in the wind, namely Quinn and Buchberger out and Renney in as HC. One other point, looking back on the changes in the training staff, have you considered the possibly that this was precipitated by the players?
boreal: I think Tambellini made the changes after deciding to go scorched earth on the entire organization.
ReplyDeleteLowetide said...
ReplyDeleteboreal: I think Tambellini made the changes after deciding to go scorched earth on the entire organization.
Lowetide:
You are probably rights, but some players do have issues with training staff, and Quinn (not surprisingly). And Katz is listening.
I'd resign him on the cheap in a cocaine heartbeat. There are much, much worse things to do than bet $.7MM on a solid veteran coin flip (and, again, IR doesn't ruin our cap situation so at worst we'd be spending Katz's money). I'd rather have 30 healthy GP from Pisani than 80 from one of the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, Pisani was back after Quinn started line matching (at least his checking line) and played almost entirely with Horcoff and Moreau... that line had anti-chemistry, so I absolutely believe those Qual numbers.
I've long since felt that Tabmellini has no idea what he's doing as GM. And while he's (mostly) said a lot of the right things, if he lets Pisani walk without making an attempt to bring him back, then I'll be sure of it.
ReplyDeleteThe Oilers are rebuilding from the bottom with most new players. The training staff was getting older. Do you want to change your training staff in midstream five years from now.
ReplyDeletePut in place a new staff so they won't have to be replaced midstream. Have the new players and the new staff grow together.
Tambellini is looking at it longer term. Were Ken, Sparky, and Barrie going to be there when the ulitmate goal of being a Stanley Cup contender was reached. If no, now is the time to make the change, not later.
Interesting tidbit from Matheson today.
ReplyDelete"It’s interesting that Norris Trophy finalist Mike Green wasn’t on the ice on the last shift as the Washington Capitals tried to get the tying goal against the Montreal Canadiens on Friday. Rookie John Carlson got the call instead."
Also interesting from Matty is that the vote is currently 6-5 (or some such) in favor of Taylor Hall at this point in time.
ReplyDeleteMB will make the right pick.
If you trust HF for all of your important decisions like I do we're looking at 80% Hall. Also, Seguin is unlikely to have an impactful NHL career.
ReplyDeletemajor changes appears to be in the wind, namely Quinn and Buchberger out and Renney in as HC.
ReplyDeleteSource?
34 is exactly the type of responsible cheap vetern that Tambellini should flesh out the roster with once he's done scorching the earth.
750K and a 1st Unit PKer on almost every NHL team.
34 also says he's as healthy as he can remember in the last 3 years.
I keep signing him to one year deals until it obvious he can't do it anymore, and at this point that isn't the case.
Off-topic here, but have any of the Edmonton media taken up the Toronto Star story about the Oilers' charitable foundation? Turns out it's pretty suspect, as 80% of the revenue gathered in the name of worthy causes actually goes to the foundation itself:
ReplyDeleteStory here
GF: It looks to me like all of Canada's NHL teams are going to need to look at this..
ReplyDeleteSounds like the 50/50 draw puts them behind the 8 ball to start with when considering overhead expenditures as a percentage.
ReplyDeleteRight there you are starting with 55% overhead as 50% is given to the winner and 5% to cost of running the raffle.
Interesting stuff none the less.
I believe that one 80% year the Oilers Charity Foundation had two years ago was a result of that lottery they had that went awry because it was poorly time and conflicted with other lotteries.
ReplyDeleteRemember when they almost had to beg people to buy the tickets.
I remember hearing something about Pisani having to play 30-40 more games in his career to qualify for the NHLPA pension. Can anyone verify this? That should be added motivation for him. I like the idea of a one year deal for him personally.
ReplyDeleteThe pension thing appears to be a non-issue. Under the old CBA, the amount contributed per season increased greatly at 400 games played, but this has been changed to 160 games in the new CBA.
ReplyDeleteBut the NHL doesn't guarantee a fixed yearly amount when you retire, it'll depend on how well the investments turn out. Obviously, the more years you play the bigger the nest egg.
To Woodguy:
ReplyDeleteSource?
Prefer not to say, but from the inside. Keep your eyes open for change.
Right there you are starting with 55% overhead as 50% is given to the winner and 5% to cost of running the raffle.
ReplyDeleteI agree, that really skews the numbers unfairly.
Average 50-50 payout is what, around $20,000? Which means they're selling $40,000 worth of tickets and $18,000 goes to charity.
$18,000 x 41 games = $738,000.
Now, you can argue that 50-50 isn't the most efficient way to raise money, but the bottom line is that the home games are raising three quarters of a million dollars for charity. If they stopped doing 50-50 draws, I'm not sure how else they would raise that kind of money.
boreal: Interesting. So you're suggesting the Oilers are moving Quinn out?
ReplyDeleteor up?
or up?
ReplyDeleteDANGER, DANGER.
To lowetide:
ReplyDeleteDon't have info on up or out, just change.
I'll bet money it is up. We're screwed blue.
ReplyDeleteThey mentioned on the Hotstove last night that Tambellini was having a meeting with Quinn. When Mclean asked if Quinn was perhaps in danger of losing his job, the answer was quite effusive. I can't remember which guy brought it up on hotstove.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, is the Oilers' organoization becoming more unlikable all the time? I'm not just talking about the recent firings either.
Effusive? Well what did they say?
ReplyDeleteI'll bet money it is up. We're screwed blue.
ReplyDeleteThere is no up - Tambi is in charge for now. If it is up, it is to something like looking after the farm club.
Gutsy and necessary call to dump Quinn.
Quinn off the bench is good in my books.
I understand there's a vacancy at Assistant GM.
ReplyDeleteboreal said...
ReplyDeletePrefer not to say, but from the inside. Keep your eyes open for change.
Well maybe it's not the coaching staff. Maybe they'll do something sure to fix what ails the organization (and I use the term loosely) like fire the equipment guys.
Hall nearly decapitated in Game 7. Buddy needs to learn to keep his head up.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Windsor is coming back from a 3-0 series deficit to advance to the OHL finals. With their questionable goaltending and Barrie's offensive depth I can't see them winning it all. Should be a high-scoring series though.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why, if we retain Pisani, we need to worry about the dollars too much (assuming we keep it reasonable). It should, of course, be a short contract - two years max, but preferably one year. During that time we really shouldn't be pressing up against the cap, unless something else is wrong.
ReplyDeleteI hope they retain him and are willing to pay a little extra to do so if need be. This isn't a charity case, it is about filling this team with players who play the game well and smart and are a reminder of what hard work will bring.
How is Seguin at keeping his head up? Has this been an issue? My guy Seguin is pretty smart too.
ReplyDeleteJust saying. :-)
The Hot Stove thing was between Elliot Friedman (sp?) and Ron MacLean. RM started by talking about the firing of the training staff and how Cherry was really upset to see Sparky fired. EF was the one who had recently interviewed Tambo. EF got the same lines about change in the organization, etc, and RM mentioned that Barrie Stafford already accepted a new position in the organization and that these guys will have lots of things to do with their lives besides being the Oilers equipment guys.
ReplyDeleteRM then asks if anybody thinks there will be a coaching change in Edmonton and EF mentions that he asked Tambo that exact question and the response was (paraphrasing) "I have the utmost respect for Pat Quinn and he'll be treated with respect", specifically avoiding any kind of commitment, only mentioning that they are evaluating everybody and that the coaching evaluation has yet to take place or at least, has yet to be completed.
Pisani is EXACTLY the kind of guy you tie to the hip of our #1 draft pick next year along with another solid vet on the 4th line. Nobody could be a better influence on or off the ice - the role is made for him. If he goes elsewhere because the GM doesn't care I'll be very disappointed
ReplyDeleteSome people seem to be forgetting that Pisani might not want to finish his career in Edmonton.
ReplyDeleteHe might much prefer to go play for the Red Wings @ $700K than to play for the Oilers @ twice that.
It is as much or more his choice than it is the Oilers choice.
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ReplyDeleteI understand there's a vacancy at Assistant GM.
ReplyDeleteCan Quinn sharpen skates and iron Jersey's? Anyone notice if he gets along well with Joey?
We don't know what is in Pisani's head but there will be pressure from his family as well. How old are his kids? Is his wife local? (I presume so)
ReplyDeleteI would guess that a move at this time in his life might not be in the cards. And I doubt he needs the money.
Hard to say though. Best he is going ot be able to do is wrangle a TC invite from someone and even then his health issues hang over everything. Might not get a contract because of that. Why sign a guy whose health might take him out of the lineup at any time.
BDHS: I think there will be interest. Watching VCR on the PK right now I can tell you the Canucks should have traded for him.
ReplyDeleteGodot,
ReplyDelete34 is an Edmonton boy with deep roots here. I believe his family is still in the new home construction business.
He's Italian with lots of immediate family in the city.
I would be surprised to see him turn down a contract here to play elsewhere for similar or even a bit more $$$.
Moving a young family (or moving himself and keeping his family here with the extended family) is very disruptive.
I have no idea about what he thinks about the organization though, and that may play into it as well.
It would be a shame I'd the Oilers don't offer a contract and someone else does. He would ooze value at 750K.
Though I'm pretty convinced that Hall is and will continue to be a superior player in the future to Seguin, his injury concerns are significant. He simply can't take a bit hit every game in the NHL and not have it affect his games played every season and his career potential. At this point it's almost a big enough concern to be determinative in making the pick.
ReplyDeleteWe should refer to this draft as Stevie's Choice. It's going to last in this franchise's collective memory long after Tambellini is gone.
Thanks, Steve, for the re-cap.
ReplyDeletejon k...
What convinces you Hall is superior?
I'm hoping Pisani is the first Oiler to play his whole career for The Slick. Whether he retires this year or next or the year after that.
ReplyDeleteIf all he gets is a TC invite from us, I'm sure he'll look elsewhere for an actual contract, but hard to say if someone will offer him one. Detroit is highly unlikely since they have to drop Matlby and Williams to fit in Hudler and Abdelkader (and it depends on what Holmstrom & Lidstrom do/sign for).
If some of the unwanted souls can be unloaded on our end--the Nilsson types--I think we should offer Pisser a one year deal.
I mean howe in the name of the Great Gordie can we retain JFJ ahead of San Fernando?
OT :: capgeek has released rynnas numbers.
ReplyDeletethey seem a little big to me and i'm happy we're dropped out of the running for him.
can someone explain to me how his bonus works if he's sent to the AHL? also, why such heavy bonuses?
thanks. it seems to me like harding or schneider will come a lot cheaper and are perhaps a little more proven?
i'd be happy to see pisani retire and join the team to some capacity. i'm not normally into giving former players token jobs in the franchise, but he's obviously a heady guy and i think he would do well in a role similar to what we did with the face off wizard last summer.
sorry...link
ReplyDeletehttp://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?pid=94172&pos=G
On Rynnas - looks like Gustavsson had more going on in terms of bonuses - his cap hit this year was 2.5 - see here - while it's going down to 1.35 for the next two years (likely due to performance and his much lower yearly which led to a reduced qualifying).
ReplyDeleteI imagine the hit for the attainable bonuses would still potentially count against the team while the player was in the AHL, but would likely be covered by the available bonus cushion, therefore not being that much of a big deal. Unfortunately it doesn't break down the details of the bonuses (could be games played, SV%, wins?) but some of the bonuses on players does get a bit ridiculous - over 2 mill for L Schenn for instance, and T Chorney even has his bonus of $190,000 counting as a cap hit.
as for the reason for the heavy bonuses - likely one of the ways to help woo free agents, as the base salary is restricted by the ELC; and as has been mentioned elsewhere, if you can get a player for just $$ and no assets (such as would have to be given up to obtain Harding/Schneider) it's definitely a win.
Also - a high bonus amount reduces the qualifying offer, as I believe that is just on top of the base salary.
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ReplyDeleteCullen's Off-Season Game Plan for the Oilers has been posted. For some reason we were done first this year.
ReplyDeleteNot a lot of insight there from Cullen, just the usual survey of issues.
A lot of forward decisions... help needed in defense and goal... yeah, no kidding.
As for help on the D, Dreger's blog reports that Volchenkov is likely getting $5M+ a year. If that's the case, I want no part of him.
But I don't see a trade either helping much either. How many teams can take on Souray's salary without Redden coming back the other way? How many of those who can, would want to?
So you're suggesting the Oilers are moving Quinn out?
ReplyDeleteor up?
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I understand there's a vacancy at Assistant GM.
"If that's movin' up then I'm movin' out."
I just can't imagine Quinn taking AGM under Tambellini for some reason.
spOILer,
ReplyDeleteRumor has it (from a TO based radio show that airs on TEAM1260) that Rangers ownership is prepared to pay Redden to play in the AHL if he can't be moved.
Buying a sheep farm, stocking the bar with Absinthe and using it as a corporate retreat was the smartest thing Slats every did.
WG,
ReplyDeleteExactly. That's the contract they'll want to move. I can't see them accepting the risk that is Souray's contract without dumping their own issue.
With Redden signed for more, and IIRC, longer, that's not a deal Tambellini can do.
So who does that leave?
From Jim Matheson's Hockey World today, refering to Sparky Kulchisky:
ReplyDeleteI still remember him putting Michel Petit in his place after he joined the Oilers on his eighth of 10 NHL stops in 1997. Petit came with a sense of entitlement, and gave Kulchisky a shot one day, as I recall, for not having any tea or coffee in the change room. He was treating Kulchisky like a servant. Kulchisky, who didn't suffer fools gladly, blew it off.
"He won't be here long," said Kulchisky, who was right.
Petit was gone after 18 games
Something about this story really bothers me.
If it was part of Kulchinsky's duties to make sure beverages were available to players in the change room, then I'm not sure Petit is the bad guy in this story, regardless of his attitude.
Don't know if this has already been posted, and apologies if it has, but HF has the Oiler 2010 Junior Prospects Review up.
ReplyDeleteWG,
ReplyDeleteas you know, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Accordng to reports, Petit showed no respect and all entitlement.
spOILer,
ReplyDeleteIf they are willing to put Redden in the AHL, then the $$$ can be lopsided as the Rangers would have room.
You also hear Rozival everywhere and he is approx. 5MM/yr iirc.
I'll defer to your information on Petit, I have read nor heard anything to make a judgment other than Matheson's piece.
ReplyDeleteHossa will not receive any supplemental discipline for his 5 minute major on Hamhuis. That's pretty ^%@$! up imo. I think he should have sat for 1 game, it was a dangerous play and Hamhuis could have been seriously hurt. Again and again the NHL show no rhyme or reason to their discipline.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Sparky has been around so long that he had too many 'tips' for all the young kids to help solve the woes of this season.
ReplyDeleteGeorge Costanza / Danny Tartabull style advice!
Some people seem to be forgetting that Pisani might not want to finish his career in Edmonton.
ReplyDeleteThat's obviously another issue entirely, and a completely valid point. But there is a lot of reasons for Pisani to not want to come back to Edmonton and sign elsewhere in the offseason. There are none to excuse Tambellini for not wanting him back, especially at a decent price. Now I know Tambellini hasn't said or done anything on that front yet, but that sort of thing always comes out in the end, and if after July 1st, Pisani signs elsewhere, and it comes out that the Oilers didn't want him back or didn't offer him a contract, it would do a lot to solidify my opinion of Tambellini not having the slightest clue what he's doing.
pboy, i disagree with you. I saw the replay a couple times and he mad contact before the goal line. that's a pretty safe place to make hit usually. Compare to the OV, Campbell hit and that occurred below the red line.
ReplyDeleteI am ok with the penalty assessed.
Can someone link me to today's Matty piece that everyone keeps referencing?
ReplyDeleteThere's every reason to ditch Quinn if you're starting anew and I liked the joint coach idea when I thought Renney would be working the levers while Quinn tried to motivate but once I heard Quinn talking about how they'd try to match lines at home and not on the road then my mind was made up.
Three things to finish:
1. I love 34 and there's no need to throw him out with the bathwater if the guy wants to come back on the cheap next year.
2. when did Craig Simpson become a Canucks fan? I expect that fuckery from Hughson but Simpson's waving the flag this playoff series.
3. what does everyone make of Tim Horton's using Eric Carmen's "Hungry Eyes"? When's the last time a Can company used a serious top 10 hit from an American artist?
Dennis,
ReplyDeleteMatheson's online Hockey World doesn't seem to contain the section I referenced.
I typed it out when reading the actual fishwrap earlier.
Dennis:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Hockey+World/2949538/story.html
and
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/More+Hockey+World/2948354/story.html
as for Eric Carmen, they're just getting back at us for a USA car dealer using the 5 Man Electrical Band's "Absolutely Right" in a car commercial a few years back.
As for Simpson, he's a pretty boy and I never trusted him. Those guys have to sell their souls because all they have is the face when chasing skirt.
ReplyDeleteNot like us intelligent men. :-)
If Pisani retires, I hope he opens an Italian Food Hockey Themed restaurant/bar that sells all you can eat baked spaghetti on game nights along with having reasonably cheap pitchers of beer and hot waitresses.
ReplyDeleteoh yeah, and $0.15 wings and those barrels of peanuts too.
Am I missing anything?
and kytnar's season ends. I believe he is the last prospect playing in north america still. near PPG player in the regular season and playoffs. would have thought that he would have a better offensive showing at his age. Of course, 2-way play is more his calling. should help in OKC
ReplyDeleteC*ntnucks.
ReplyDeleteHealy was commenting on how Luongo has "weak wrists" during the first intermission last night - well, I'm guessing that's got something to do with Hughson and Simpson constantly giving the guy hand-relief between periods and him never having to bust out the Ziploc bags BDHS-style. I've seen more unbiased commentary on the Fox News channel.
I'm quite looking forward to Chicago (once they finish off the Preds) putting an end to this nonsense and taking care of this collection of a-holes in short order.
Seems to me Pisani "could" be a vet solution on a cheap contract. When healthy he can still kill penalties.
ReplyDeleteIf he's not back (for health/other reasons) this is another hole that needs to be filled with a value contract. Inexpensive PK who can mentor some of the "yutes".
no to Pisani!! he's a UFA and it's time to let him go IMO!!
ReplyDeleteno to Pisani!! he's a UFA and it's time to let him go IMO!!
ReplyDeleteWith such an insightful and well-reasoned comment, I don't think anyone here can counter your argument. Well played, sir.
The Kulchinsky story makes it sound as if they're nothing more than a bunch of spies for the coaching staff.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance to these incestuous relationships.
hunter1909 said...
ReplyDeleteGood riddance to these incestuous relationships.
What?!?! These "incestuous relationships" were borne from the holy 80's Oilers. I cannot fathom why you don't fully support it on that basis given your historical bent.
How was the scout voting 5-4 and now it's 6-5? Did we hire more scouts? I hope Tambellini doesn't get a vote.
ReplyDeleteHe'd be ready to make the pick sometime in July.
ReplyDeleteI can see Tambellini on the podium for the draft announcement now.
ReplyDelete"After several months of assessing the situation, we've asked for more time because the scouts split right down the middle and I can't make the final decision because there be no one left to blame if this goes wrong".
The 5-4 vote was central scouting. The 6-5 was our scouts.
ReplyDelete"I cannot fathom why you don't fully support it on that basis given your historical bent."
ReplyDeleteLOL just because someone was around 25 years ago when everything was great doesn't necessarily translate to success on ice 25 years later, if you catch my drift.
Using that logic to it's extreme, one would be pining to bring Slats back to right the ship - of course he'd be minus that 17 year named Wayne...
I can just see Tambellini calling a timeout before they make the first pick to mull things over a little bit more.
ReplyDeleteTambellini asks for both Seguin and Hall jerseys to be ready.
ReplyDeleteYou know, just in case.
I'd like to see Pisani back at a discount because I think the Oilers can afford to lose him for half of the season if need be and his work ethic has to rub off on someone while he's there.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to Tambellini I just say to myself....
Well, at least he's not a lunatic.
Things could be a lot worse.
I don't know if the assessment joke works as well now that he's canning old timey Oilers left and right.
ReplyDeleteWoodguy,
ReplyDeleteSo let me get this straight, the Rags replace both Redden and Rozsival with one Sheldon Souray?
I can't see it happening. As much as I would love for it to happen.
What I can see happening is that if the Oil are unwilling to take Redden back, the Rags say no deal, and then kick Redden down to the minors and run with Rosie.
...Ahh, Five Man Electrical Band... I'm A Stranger Here has been one of my faves ever since joining this place called Earth.
Tambellini asks for both Seguin and Hall jerseys to be ready.
ReplyDeleteYou know, just in case.
He'd better have both jerseys done up. If Chiarelli cracks on the draft floor and offers Boston's own 1st to switch picks, you do it.
well gee whiz, despisethesun, i didn't know you had to be a poet to have an opinion and add a comment. what more can be said about Pisani....some of us don't want him re-signed, some of us think there are other players that can be signed instead of Pisani. My Opinion.
ReplyDelete@dug,
ReplyDeleteNot looking for poet. Looking for rational arguments. If you've read LT's blog, you know that rational thoughts travel further than just opinions.
really, ML? i gave a basic opinion on an opinion board and it's not rational? what can you really say about Pisani anyways? not even close to the player he was, and not worth the money IMO. not much else to say!
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