- 2010-11 actual: 193-269 (-76 goal diff)
- 2011-12 my projection: 223-247 (-24 goal diff)
- 2011-12 current: 100-104 (-4 goal diff)
- 2011-12 projected: 222-230 (-8 projected)
THE FORWARDS
- Jordan Eberle 37, 16-23-39 (proj: 82, 22-30-52) Eberle is blowing the projection out of the water. Seriously, this kid is sensational. He's one (of several) who are kicking reasonable's ass.
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 37, 13-22-35 (proj: 63, 11-23-34) He's actually passed his projection before the halfway point of the season. RNH is slowing currently but clearly this is a monster rookie season and he's a strong Calder candidate. His PP work is stunning, like the first time you heard Exile on Main Street.
- Ryan Smyth 37, 14-16-30 (proj: 70, 18-19-37) I didn't think he'd get much PP time (he's 3-3-6) but even considering that Smyth has been quality in the first half. I can't recall the last trade that benefited the Oilers this heavily but would guess it was Pronger arrival. Well above expectations.
- Taylor Hall 29, 10-14-24 (proj: 70, 32-28-60) Hall is off his projection but should clear 50 points if he continues at this scoring rate. The number of sorties that have finished with posts and crossbars tells us lady luck should bless him in the second half.
- Shawn Horcoff 37, 8-13-21 (proj: 62, 13-18-31) Playing a prominent PP role was something I didn't think he'd do (Gagner has been demoted) and that PP time (4-4-8) makes his season beyond what I'd estimated. One of the actual NHL players on the roster.
- Ryan Jones 37, 12-7-19 (proj: 64, 5-11-16) Passed his projection with ease and has 9 EV goals already. I don't know how badly he's hurt, but Ryan Jones has made a believer out of me this season. Sold, solid year.
- Sam Gagner 30, 4-11-15 (proj: 70, 15-35-50) Injuries and changing role have impacted his season, but there's a lot to like here. He's rescued his 5x5 numbers and is having a good run here. I don't know how much longer he'll be on the club, but wish him useful linemates for 2012.
- Ales Hemsky 24, 3-8-11 (proj: 57, 17-37-54) God I'm going to miss him. I may cry. He's been like Red was to Andy Dufresne all these years--a friend in deed. Without his wonderful creativity I don't know how we would have survived. I hope he gets traded to Detroit and shoves it up everyone's ass for a decade. Lagging numbers due to injury and lack of PP time.
- Eric Belanger 37, 1-9-10 (proj: 68, 13-23-36) He's off offensively which is strange because he's the new Toby Petersen on the PP. I would suggest this has been a very disappointing first half, but the Oilers should stay the course with him. Belanger has been a strong player for years, the Oilers need to solve this riddle.
- Lennart Petrell 30, 3-3-6 (proj: 10, 1-1-2) On pace for his projection, but I estimated he'd be in the minors by now. I love Finns, but by Corsi and by number he's not getting it done despite reaching reasonable.
- Ben Eager 26, 2-2-4 (proj: 69, 8-8-16) Slightly off reasonable projection, but the real concern is that Eager is not displaying the discipline required to own an NHL job. I expect coach Renney will screw with his playing time--which is fine he's playing too much--but as with Belanger I believe Eager can fill a role on a Renney team.
- Anton Lander 33, 1-2-3 (proj: 16, 1-3-4) I'm astounded he's still here. Seriously. What development handbook suggests this?
- Magnus Paajarvi 25, 0-3-3 (proj: 82, 20-20-40) Clearly off the rails, I'm going to blame the coach slightly more than the player on this one but the real item is getting him back to last season's levels. Suspect he'll get top 6 minutes when Hemsky is flushed.
- Darcy Hordichuk 16, 0-1-1 (proj: 44, 0-3-3) Unlike many others who can't stand his performance, I'm fine with Hordichuk. He plays 4 minutes a night, the coach pays a massive price when he's on but is clearly smart enough to play him sparingly. The late third period shifts of tie games aren't his fault and he's a much better player than Steve MacIntyre.
- Ryan O'Marra 3, 0-1-1 (proj: none) I didn't have him playing in the NHL this season. Good on him, maybe he'll get a recall if and when the Lander experiment ends.
- Linus Omark, 5, 0-0-0 (proj: 70, 13-27-40) This is where the Tambellin-Renney team lost me. I can't defend an NHL team sending this guy out and keeping Lander, Hordichuk, Eager and Petrell. Mind-numbing.
I've decided to take a different route with the G & D, they'll be along in the next few hours or days.
Happy New Year LT.
ReplyDeleteYou too. I may have opened more bottles of wine than I should have last night. :-)
ReplyDeletebarons call up Cam Abney from Stockton for tonight's game. Le sigh.
ReplyDeleteAll the best to you and yours in the new year, LT.
ReplyDeleteThe handling of Omark and Paajarvi is a bit of a mystery. It's hard to tell what the Oilers brain-trust is thinking at any given time... or if they're thinking at all, really.
It's a shame Omark got hurt, as I was hoping he would force the issue with superior play in the "A".
I'd say Oilers players and prospects would be better off if they could just "work-around" Tambellini, just like Ryan Smyth did, and arrange their own trades, assignments, and force Renney to play them just by being too good not to play.
Wishful thinking, I know, but hey, it's New Year's Day, where all things are possible.
Sam Gagner failing to reach reasonable expectations 4 years in a row.
ReplyDeleteTwice with Renney, once with Quinn and once with MacT.
It would appear a new coach isn't going to solve Gagner's problems.
there is a city in North Alberta....
ReplyDeletehopeless, hopeless, HOPEless..
/Neil Young-ed:)
lol. Love that song.
ReplyDeletethe nuge isn't slowing, he's just so advanced that he has his sophomore slump halfway through his rookie season
ReplyDeleteMore great stuff LT.
ReplyDeleteAm very dissapointed w/how they've handled Omark, Lander and Paajarvi. Kids need to play and in an environment where they can succeed and it's not happening with any of them.
W/Paajarvi it's partly a numbers thing but Omark and Lander is atrocious asset managment from a management group w/a poor track record.
I do think that sending Paajarvi down to regain confidence will help. Lander could use the same.
I wonder what will happen w/Omark though when he's healthy. I have little confidence that management will be able to turn him (or Hemsky for that matter) into lemonade.
Agree w/your assessment on 16-for whatever it's worth.
Happy New Year. May 2012 (eventually) bring a better brand of hockey.
While the Chicago blowout certainly skews things (expect that to be corrected tomorrow), Khabibulin's performance in the first 10 games, 7 of which were at home, has had a far larger effect.
ReplyDeleteGA per 10 game segment:
1. 15
2. 33
3. 35
4. 24 (7games)
If we can agree that the first 10 game stretch was unsustainable, the 27 games that have followed likely give us a clue to how this will end.
If the Oilers finish the season with a GA/G average of, say, 3.3, they will give up another 148 goals for a season total of 252....very close to your original projection.
GF per 10 game segment:
1. 22
2. 30
3. 35
4. 20 (7games)
Similarly, the Oilers didn't score much in the first 10 games but have picked it up since.
If they continue to score at the rate they have in the following 27 games, they should finish with 239 goals, quite a bit higher than your original projection.
In any case, if they finish with a goal differential of -13, that would be a significant improvement.
Take away the first few games after returning from injury, and adapting to a new plug-n-play role, Gagner is again on pace for a pro-rated 50-point season or so.
ReplyDeleteHe is a decent player, and a pro-rated 50 point pace (after the slow start returning from injury) is decent production for a 2nd line player.
The Oilers don't need him to be a WOW player anymore. They just need him to become a solid supporting player to the WOW players, and he is on his way to becoming that.
Pitlick is still probably two years away. Ditto for Lander adding some offense. Gagner can certainly hold the fort till then.
He's out producing Hemsky, and more versatile, at a fraction of the cost.
Steven Ellis
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DSF: Agree completely, it's part of the next post. The .960SP supplied by NK was the eqivalent of a black cocktail dress.
ReplyDeletehi...no internet at home, so i have to post these once i get to the office.
ReplyDeleteslovaks / swiss ... dec 31:
http://slothpool.toqueboy.com/content/wjc-slovaks-vs-swiss-dec-31
sweden / slovaki ... dec 30:
http://slothpool.toqueboy.com/content/wjc-sweden-vs-slovakia-dec-30
will post russia vs sweden shortly.
Gagner is the last player I want to see jettisoned, after suffering for the first 4 seasons then all of a sudden he blooms as a LA King or whatever.
ReplyDeleteIt's right up there with the "MacT is returning to coach the Oilers" lunacy.
This whole idea of having a supposedly defensive responsible (at least according to Renney's system) bottom two lines is fine and good when the team can compete.
ReplyDeleteSince we're obviously plummeting to a bottom 5 finish, its time to drop Petrell and Lander, put Eager in the pressbox and give Belanger and Hordichuk bottom line and no PP minutes.
When they're healthy, Paajarvi, Omark and Hartikainen need to come up and play good minutes, defense be damned, since if we're going to stink, at least develop the potential in the players you have.
inger = what I'm giving Renney and Tambellini.
Belanger's been a bit disappointing, but not terrible. He's got some good things going - faceoff percentage, positive relcorsi, fairly solid on the PK, one of the best zoneshifts on the team. He's not sawing off, but part of that is the fact that he's got one of the toughest zonestarts on the team, and is playing with the worst teammates of any of our actual NHLers. Of concern, he's not facing especially tough competition.
ReplyDeleteHe's been a little disappointing, but I wouldn't mention him in the same breath as Eager and Hordichuk. Though of course there's absolutely no excuse for his PP time.
Put another way, taking Eager or Hordichuk off the team would amount (all else held constant) to addition by subtraction. Taking Belanger off the team would amount to subtraction by subtraction.
ReplyDeleteWhen they're healthy, Paajarvi, Omark and Hartikainen need to come up and play good minutes, defense be damned, since if we're going to stink, at least develop the potential in the players you have.
ReplyDeleteI would suggest that development means they are brought up when they are ready. Omark will be ready once healthy, but MPS isn't and Teemu just got back playing.
O'Marra for Lander is the move to make, with Hartikanen up next once he gets on a roll.
The Oilers should be advancing guys because they are clearly ready, not because they need some bodies in the NHL.
for those in calgary...i've got a pair of really nice tickets to all the relegation games...so, early game tomorrow and 2 games on wedensday. will give them for face value to LTs crew. jfry@simplesimple.ca if you'd like them.
ReplyDeleteO'Marra should be in the NHL lineup. He fits the role and has proven more in the AHL than Lander has in the NHL.
ReplyDeleteOilers should have called up Plante, who has also been doing pretty well. to their credit, they did, but we know how that turned out : /
I don't understand why a Guy like Ryan Keller doesn't get an opportunity. he's productive offensively, responsible defensively. he's the quintessential "AHL vet" but if he has something to offer in a third line or fourth line role in the NHL, when our current 3rds and 4ths have been lacking, then why not?
I'd like to know if the club itself is meeting reasonable expectations as far as the rebuild is concerned. I've been on board with not getting too down with all the the sucking the past two seasons but I really felt like they should at least be competing for a playoff spot near the end of this one. Is it okay that I'm extremely frustrated with the current state of affairs or are we still on target?
ReplyDeletesending lander to the dogs is one of the most head scratching things i've seen in a longtime as a fan. does he have compromising pics of lowe or tambi? it makes no sense.
ReplyDeletei thought belanger would be a difference maker. you have to assume mgt is expecting more from him.
i hope renney is gone. his recent comments about hemsky remind me of when macT had an axe to grind with penner. if you can't line match and you're not a good motivator, then you're not much of a coach to my mind.
"Steve Smith": I wouldn't have Eager or Hordichuk on my team, but coach renney had those player types in NYC and he's going to have them here.
ReplyDeleteSeems like the Canadiens like Josh Gorges as much as the folks around these parts.
ReplyDelete6 years/$3.9M per.
WJC :: Sweden vs. Russia, Dec 31
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Jfry: It keeps denying me access.
ReplyDeleteThat Gorges deal is fine by me, just wish it was the Oilers. Ales Hemsky could be signed any day now, though.
@LT, gah...i'll figure out why they're not public and let you know when i have the problem solved.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good deal for both MTL and Gorges.
ReplyDeleteIt makes sense to tie up your Actual NHL players who play well against tough comp before they hit the market. They are few and far between.
I fully expect EDM to let the only tough minute outscorer they have who's in their 20's to go for promises of more promises.
That leaves a group of forwards comprised of kids who are too young to beat Actual NHL players and a group of +33 year olds who are too old to do it regularly anymore, and flotsam.
Yay team!
Is there any evidence they have not initiated any talks to sign Hemsky? (I haven't read anything that suggests they have but it's possible).
ReplyDeleteLT, what would you offer the present version of 83? Term and money?
Two years, similar term.
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ReplyDeleteOkay, Paajarvi got his first AHL goal and two assist so far - midway third period.
ReplyDeletePaajarvi scores for OKC
ReplyDeleteYay!
Watch the Oilers bring him back up and put him on the fourth line
ReplyDeleteI rarely defend the Oilers brass but if we're going to make statements like "I hate the Oilers handling of Omark, Hartikainen and Paajaarvi" can we at least separate these three out and decide what it is we hate so much?
ReplyDelete1. Omark- The Oilers were good early but the Omark/Paajaarvi/Belanger line was not producing. Omark tried something a little silly in the shootout and had a healthy scratch in part because of that but also because he was 5GP-0-0-0. I think we all agree that one healthy scratch was no big deal. then they kept winning, Gagner came back and the penalty was dominant with help from Lennart Petrell. Eager was either due back or back. The wins and the depth kept him out to the point that he was sent down to get some work. He was doing quite well and to my knowledge, not a single forward was called up while Omark was healthy.
Then he got hurt and then Oilers got hurt. IIRC, hemsky and Omark got hurt on the same night? There is absolutely no doubt Linus Omark would be playing on the Edmonton Oilers if he was healthy.
2. Teemu Hartikainen- Basically, the same story. He was stuck behind some guys they needed to see and Ryan Jones became a "Real NHL Player". He had a decent start but did have a healthy scratch in the AHL. He got hurt, again, maybe on the same night as Omark and Hemsky. I believe he is an option should the coach decide to move Belanger to 4C (demote Lander) but that just doesn't seem to be in the cards. At this point, I've got no issue with the way he's been handled. If he begins to go nuts in the "A" and the coach doesn't flip him with Lander, I'll start to raise my voice.
3. Anton Lander- Personally, this is the one that I'm losing sleep over and I think most of us agree. Drop Belanger to 4C. He'll get his minutes via the PK and even the stupid 2nd PP unit if you are that obsessed with winning faceoffs. The guy is drowning.
4. Magnus Paajaarvi- Here's the deal. If you don't like how Lander has been handled you can't possibly complain about how Paajaarvi has been handled. Sending him to the AHL was exactly the right move...even if it was 2 weeks late. I don't care if he moves the puck in the right direction and I doubt he does either. The guy hasn't scored this season and that can't be allowed to continue or you risk losing him forever.
Knighttown:
ReplyDeleteWhat really happened with Omark was that after a few more games he couldn't be sent to the minors without going through waivers.
So they sent him down to keep a roster spot open for Gagner, and he got hurt before they could call him back up to replace Hemsky.
And personally, there's no way a player like that should waste away in the pressbox, especially for 4th line players, even if he did something the coaches didn't like in a shootout.
BTW - Belanger hasn't especially lit it up without Omark and Paajarvi, so do you think his primary defensive role could have held them back offensively?
The Oilers have all their scoring on one line. If they are neutralized by a good checking line, the game is over. The Oilers need second line scoring and a second line center and no Horcoff and Gagner are not that position. Gagner is playing wing and Horcoff is their third line center. I feel they should try Lander with Hall and Hemsky for five games just for a change of pace.
ReplyDelete@knighttown: Fair questions, so from easiest to hardest:
ReplyDelete- Harski: I have no problem w/what they've done. Let him get as many minutes as possible playing in OKC so he gets the experience needed. Don't rush before ready.
- Lander: Should have sent him down at the start of the season to play. Team is not going to compete for the playoffs relying on him for 4th line minutes so let him play in OKC and let Belanger get 4th line minutes.
- Paajarvi: Victim of a #'s game. You can argue he should have been sent down to OKC several weeks earlier if you like but while he's not been putting up boxcars, someone showed that his Corsi was not all that bad.
- Omark: What does Renney have against him is my question? He has the 1 bad shootout move and from then on he's in the doghouse. Yes, Gagner comes back, but Hemsky was hurt and Omark is not even in the conversation.
FYI, Magnus finally got his first goal tonight in the 6-0 shutout of Houston. I filmed it on my HD camera, actually, and I got some heat for it but now I'm trying to figure out what to do with this hot piece of film. I'm hoping for YouTube.
ReplyDeletelt, i sent you an email to your astral account.
ReplyDeleteSo Paajarvi is at a point-per-game pace in the AHL, 7 points in his last 5 games.
ReplyDeleteRenney is a moron. There was absolutely nothing wrong with how Paajarvi was playing in the NHL except his line mates stunk (and who stunk worse after he was sent down), and people were blaming him.
I'm for the tank job now. Keep Paajarvi and Hartikainen in OKC. Bring Omark up to the NHL. Send Lander down, and have OKC go for the Calder Cup.
Renney isn't going to be fired during the season. Let Nelson get familiar with the 2nd tier of prospects by coaching them. Give Nelson the NHL job next year.
I hope he gets traded to Detroit and shoves it up everyone's ass for a decade
ReplyDeleteIt would be nice for Gilbert Gilbert if were included in that trade.
He could then be a co-shover.
Tambellini doesn't want a lottery pick:
ReplyDeletehttp://goo.gl/Fdx04
V3.2 from Matheson's article:
ReplyDelete“The first month and a half of this season showed our capabilities. It wasn’t an illusion, not to me,” said Tambellini. “If you look at our team when our defence is healthy and our goaltending is the way it was then, that’s the type of hockey I think we can play. It was the skill forwards paying a price to get inside to score, it was the tenacity of, say, an energy forward who refused to give up on a puck or the play of Nikolai Khabibulin, who’s been banged up the last while. I don’t want to use this is a cop-out, but we’ve missed (Ryan) Whitney, (Andy) Sutton, (Cam) Barker and (Corey) Potter for a great time of the season. That’s put pressure on our team. We were much stronger in front of our net when they were all playing. That was an obvious upgrade from last year.”
So according the GM of an NHL team all the Oilers need to succeed is for their 38 year old injury prone goalie to go back to putting up .965 SV%.
Ok then.
As long as we have that clear.
Fire this bozo, he has no clue how to build an NHL team.
My 75 year old mother today: "Are they going to trade Hemksy?"
Me: "Probably"
Mom: "What's wrong with the Oilers? Why do they always trade their good players?"
I swear to god she actually said that.
That Matheson article is a little troubling-the team is 10 points out of 8th right now and he feels that "trade possibilities might heat up by the middle of the month"...holy fuck.
ReplyDelete@ WG
ReplyDeleteLOL...his apparent belief that Khabibulin is capable of a .965 SV% over the course of a season pretty much tells you all you need to know about the man.
As I posted earlier today, the Oilers managed to score only 22 goals in the first ten game segment yet had a record of 6-2-2.
If they continued to score at that pace, they would have finished the season with 180 goals for...or 13 fewer than last season's dismal record.
Clearly, the man doesn't have a clue.
@ Gerta.
ReplyDeleteThe Oilers are actually 11 points out of 8th...you have to finish ahead of another team to make the playoffs and the Oilers are currently behind in all tiebreakers except goal differential which I'm sure will be remedied shortly.
I think we should hire Woodguy's mother as GM.
ReplyDeleteOr put her in net.
Something tells me we won't have to be fretting over tie breakers,DSF.
ReplyDeleteShould also mention that San Jose has 3 games in hand and, if they win a couple of them, which seems perfectly reasonable given their record, the playoff cutoff will effectively be 46 points so the Oilers are actually 14 points out of a playoff spot.
ReplyDeleteYikes.
Re Omark:
ReplyDeleteYou both do realize he was injured (around) when Hemsky went down and still is right?
There is no grassy knoll here. He took a turn in the PB after a 5GP-0-0-0 start and then the team went on a big run. They would have been on that run with him playing instead of Petrell no doubt, but many coaches don't change things when its working. If they had a lost the next night, he likely would have drawn back him and who knows, Petrell and Lander might be in the AHL while Omark and Paajaarvi settled in.
Anyway, he got sent down, played well and would have been recalled at the first opportunity but it didn't come until he got hurt.
Just shitty timing is all...
I don't expect v3.2 to throw the team under the bus.
ReplyDeleteI fully expect him to express support for the coach and the team.
I just don't expect him to expect the team to play consistently at an unsustainable level and say so publicly.
He hasn't shown ability to add parts that the team needs, aside from Belanger (right part, used wrong by the coach)
They won early because of amazing goaltending in spite of a lack of goal scoring, he misses the mark almost completely.
So Paajarvi is at a point-per-game pace in the AHL, 7 points in his last 5 games.
ReplyDeleteRenney is a moron. There was absolutely nothing wrong with how Paajarvi was playing in the NHL except his line mates stunk (and who stunk worse after he was sent down), and people were blaming him.
See, this is a great example of how different things look from different angles. I'm very excited he's at a PPG in the AHL. Gaining confidence and maybe, just maybe, he'll be ready to create some more when he returns.
So, if he does come back and produce at 1/2 a point a game, you'll call "Renney a moron" for wasting Pajaarvi in the AHL and I'll give him (well Tambi I suppose) credit for sending him down to gain confidence.
Ask yourself this...when was the last time the Red Wings played a 20 year old offensive rookie 25+ games without scoring a goal. Bring them in when their overripe I say.
Woodguy, I know we've talked about this but I still can't fucking believe someone employed by an NHL team can be surprised that Colten Fucking Teubert or Alex Fucking Plante is playing 20 minutes a night.
ReplyDeleteEveryone does their little Gilbert-Smid, Whitney-Sutton, Potter-Peckham lineup before game 1 but no one ever realizes this lineup may be iced 10 times in a whole season.
Rule to live by. Have a look at defensman number 9 on your depth chart before the season starts...call it Teubert in this case. I hope you like him more than some of your top 6 forwards because over the course of the season, he'll get more ice time. Sixth defensemen still play 18+ minutes a night. Spend the dollars on 9 NHL defensemen and spend fuck all on your 4 minute per night 4th liners. Much better return on investment.
Paajarvi said that he needs fifteen to twenty minutes a game to play properly. I don't care if he scores 1.5 points a game in the AHL. When he comes back the situation is unchanged. Back to the also rans with Belanger or the fourth line, with Lander and a klutz and under ten minutes. It is painful to watch. Hall got hurt Paajarvi got one game with thw kids. Development my ass.
ReplyDeleteOmark went down on Nov 16th. Hemsky's shoulder injury was in mid-October.
ReplyDeleteBy then though, Omark was deep in the doghouse.
Totally agree on Paajarvi.
I'm a little worried they're about to hire Steve Tambellini as GM.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else think the television series should be called "Oil Same" not oil change....
ReplyDeleteOr maybe groundhog day
Its too bad Sutter was signed by San Jose and Scott Howson is still employed by Columbus - I heard from some math guys that they are great GM's. They would obviously make a good replacement for Tambellini.
ReplyDeleteDSF
ReplyDeleteWhy do you come here to annoy us? we know out team is bad and the Canucks are good. Now fuck off and don't come back.
If only the internet existed in 1985 so I could tell you how Tony Tanti couldn't skate or play defence, how Gradin skated like a girl or that Richard Brodeur was one of the actors who played the munchkins in the Wizard of Oz.
I do believe we will have our day within two years and you will stop trolling here, as you will be at the Flames message boards while they suck for the next 7-10 years.
DSF isn't annoying us, the Edmonton Oilers are annoying us.
ReplyDeleteRead his posts.
Harts recalled. Petrell sent down.
ReplyDeleteHarts eh, well now we'll see about asset management. If he's on the fourth line, I might just check out apoplexy.
ReplyDeleteThe Petrell experiment was worth while.
ReplyDeleteThe Oiler's PK was horrid last year, and adding a PK specialist that Jari Kurri recommends is probably not a bad thing.
The PK is much, much better this year, mostly due to better goaltending and probably doing away with the diamond (I've seen a modified diamond out there, but nothing like last year)
Oiler PK forwards GAON/60 and SV% (minimum 1min/60 played on PK)
Jones 3.13 .932
Belanger 3.71 .925
Smyth 4.56 9.10
Horcoff 5.75 .888
Lander 9.38 .795
Petrell 9.38 .774
(Median PKSV% for starting NHL goalies last year was about .888)
So his results are fairly meh there, but he also has the 3rd worst 5v5 shot differential (corsi) in the NHL.
It was time to end this particular experiment.
DSF isn't annoying us, the Edmonton Oilers are annoying us.
ReplyDeleteRead his posts.
No, DSF goal is trying to annoy us. Its just that sometimes what he says is correct.
Sometimes.
From time to time even a blind dog gets a bone.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was fishing out the stats from my previous post, I ran across this:
ReplyDeleteKhabby PK SV% is actually a tick higher than his 5v5.
That's unreal.
NK 5v5 .923
NK 4v5 .924
I mentioned earlier, median PKSV% among NHL goalies is around .890, I think that was a little high.
Looking last year at goalies with 40+ GP, the median (15th) 4v5 average was .877.
If we include goalies who played 30+ games then it moves to .875 (20th of 39)
Antti Tyrvainen with 6 pts in his last 7 games.
ReplyDeleteI think we can all agree that ST would rank at or near the bottom of NHL GMs based on the last few years. However, what he says to the media and what is actually discussed by their management team behind closed doors are surely not the same.
ReplyDeleteWhat's he supposed to say? "We knew NKs save percentage was unsustainable, our below average D corps were going to get injured eventually, and we had no NHL experience to replace them with?BTW look at our goal differential -it's way better this year so we're improving!"
This jargon won't register with Joe Blow Fan. ST is simply appeasing 95% of the fanbase that looks at the standings every morning - it's part of his job.
He is certainly not going to satisfy the hockey intelligent posters at this site when filling newspaper columns for the MSM.
SK,
ReplyDeleteLike I said earlier in the thread, you expect the party line from v3.2, that's a given.
What you don't expect is for him to say:
“The first month and a half of this season showed our capabilities. It wasn’t an illusion, not to me,”
He address the fact that some (correctly) called their start an illusion, and he says its not.
He didn't have to be that explicit with just the party line.
That doesn't sound like the party line, it sounds like he actually believes it.
True enough. I'm sure it's not all spin. It looks like he's shifting blame there from himself to the players, Renney, and injuries with that statement. If it is genuine, it not good leadership.
ReplyDeleteI just don't put alot of weight on what gets printed in a newspaper. You have to consider their intended audience.
Newspapers are mostly spin and cliches - I come here every day to get educated, truthful, and factual information for this sad sack franchise.
The entertainment here is top notch as well;)
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