It didn't take a long time for the Islanders to win. Their first draft picks (expansion and amateur) came in 1972 and they won their first Stanley in 1980. Nine seasons. It'll be six seasons since 2006 summer for the Oilers at the end of this campaign.
Islanders had 12 wins in their first season and 19 the next--that was the season they hired Al Arbour. 33 wins in year three and then 42, 47, 48, 51 and then 39 in the season the Islanders won their first Stanley.
Bill Torrey, Al Arbour and a bunch of hockey men with names like Gerry Ehman and Earl Ingarfield quickly became one of the "have" teams at the draft table during the 1970s. Montreal, Boston, Toronto, Buffalo, Philadelphia and the Islanders had better scouting and there was no central scouting bureau at the time.
- 1972: Billy Harris, Bob Nystrom, Garry Howatt, Lorne Henning, Richard Brodeur
- 1973: Denis Potvin, Dave Lewis, Bob Lorimer, Lorne Henning
- 1974: Bryan Trottier, Clark Gillies, Dave Langevin, Stefan Persson
The key elements to the success of the Islanders came from Oakland, Charles Finley and the broken down Seals. Brad Kurtzberg wrote a book on the Seals called (aptly) Shorthanded, and it includes this item on Torrey's dealings with the Seals owner:
Bill Torrey and the people he knew built a dynasty on Long Island, but it could just as easily have been put together in Oakland. Does anyone seriously believe Bill Torrey--the man who walked the streets of Montreal for an hour before the 1973 draft with Sam Pollock alongside trying to talk him out of Denis Potvin--would have traded the pick that became Guy Lafleur?
Both the Oilers and Islanders are drafting well, both have outstanding prospects in all areas of their farm system and a few at the NHL level. The key comes in taking those talents and marrying them to veteran players who can help them develop and win by mentoring them.
In a very real way, we don't have to wonder about Steve Tambellini and Garth Snow, we already have the answer. Islander and Oiler fans are waiting on the ownership to move on to the next phase. In Edmonton, I believe Stu MacGregor has done a fine job--it's on display in Edmonton with the Oilers, in Calgary and Edmonton at the WJ's, in Medicine Hat with the Tigers and in OKC.
The Oilers have their lottery talents, it's the Chico Resch's and Eddie Westfall's they need to add, their Gerry Hart's and Billy Smith's.
Steve Tambellini believes the Oilers have the pieces in place to make a playoff run. That isn't the question I'm asking. The question is what does Daryl Katz believe? How long is he willing to watch his lottery kids play for a team that's driving in the ditch?
We wait.
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Nation Radio's New Year's eve show hits Team 1260 at noon today. You can email questions to nationradio@theteam1260.com or drop them off here in the comments section. You can also check @itsnationradio or @lowetide_ on twitter and I welcome your questions and comments.
- Jonathan Willis will be on the show for the entire first hour. Jon has a mountain of information on the world juniors, advanced stats as they pertain to this year's edition of the Oilers and the NHL in general.
- Scott Taylor from Jets Nation. There's a story brewing here and it involves Winnipeg pushing Toronto out of the playoffs. Scott will give us the Jets view and we'll talk WJ's.
- Pension Plan Puppets have several smart people who monitor the Leafs and one of them will join me today. We'll talk about the rocky relationship the fanbase has with their goalies and also discuss the importance of the numbers 18-14-5.
Finally LT, what took you so long this morning? A few too many bevies watching the States get beat?
ReplyDeleteI'm old, if I'm going to stay up late tonight it had to be a 'sleep in' morning. :-)
ReplyDeleteTorrey said the two key moves for that put the Isles over the top were:
ReplyDelete1) Drafting Potvin
2) Trading for Goring.
If there were a Butch Goring on the Oilers v3.2 would trade him for a draft pick and a DMan who is 6th on an AHL depth chart.
The Edmonton MSM would shit talk Goring out the door and fans would boo him when he returned to EDM with his new team.
Speaking of bad GM's and sycophants in the MSM, this is a great post over at JS&BM
Great stuff there.
There were three "winnable" games on this 7 game trip.
One was MIN.
Another was this game.
The last is the DAL game.
I hope Sutton returning can shore up the D a bit. I'd guess Renney will run him out with Potter on the 2nd pairing.
Hemsky looked like Hesmky in the last half of the MIN game, if he plays like that again, the Oilers will have 2 lines that are fun to watch today.
Hopefully DD starts.
Oilers traditionally suck at afternoon games. I hope that doesn't hold true today.
Go Oilers!
Willis had an interesting tweet yesterday about the politics that kept Mrazek out of the WJC last year. I asked a follow up and he said it was basically extortion or pay for play. Can you ask if there is any more information?
ReplyDeleteSure will.
ReplyDeleteI'm on the ugly side of a night shift, but the next two days off means I'm pushing through to enjoy the game muted with Oilers Nation on blast. LT, have a great show & a happy 2012 to all! Goilers!
ReplyDeleteBring the real Goring out of retirement, I want to see that helmet he wore again. A snippet from the Manitoba Sports Hall website.
ReplyDelete"His dad, Bob, still recalls the day he got that strange looking Snaps helmet in 1961. The thing was so comfortable, Goring never took it off until he retired in 1985"
I like the reference to the mean streak on the NYI of that era. Gilles and Tonelli were tough SOB's (as was Hart and Potvin).
ReplyDeleteThe guys w/a mean streak on this team can barely play.
You asked what does Katz think? My sense is that he's being patient because we're in "year 2" of the rebuild and he's not going grow impatient w/the architects of the rebuild at this juncture because it would be an even bigger admission of failure.
Ducey put up some interesting numbers in yesterday's thread. While the W-L is dubious at this point of the season, the team is playing more competitively to this point of the season. With a 3-9 record in 1 goal games you see we're in more games.
But the back end is a mess and I'd suggest goaltending might be further muddled given that 35 is playing better...meaning Renney has not played 40 nearly as much as was intimated over the summer.
In June of 1968 I am riding a bus from The Pas to Flin Flon. I sit beside a cute gal and get chatting her up. Somewhere in the conversation comes this, I have a boyfriend, he was the Captain of the Flin Flon Bombers, his name is gerry Hart.
ReplyDeleteLT,
ReplyDeleteCan you ask Jon which are the top 3 non-drafted players he's "seen good" in this tournament of small sample sizes?
In houston visiting my sister and by some stroke of luck, I get to see OKC Barons play the Aeros tomorrow. Happy New Year indeed!
ReplyDeleteKen Morrow is the reason for the early start?
ReplyDeleteThe organ playing interlude music during the Morrow ceremony is priceless.
ReplyDeleteThe Oil could use a Kenny Morrow right about now I'll tell ya.
ReplyDeleteThe helmets were called "SPAPS".
Beautiful shift by the vets there but no finish.
ReplyDeleteGroundhog Day
ReplyDeleteEager's gritty toughness absolutely kills a great start by the Oilers.
ReplyDeleteFFS.
Shitty non-call on Hamonic rubbing out Hall when he never touched the puck.
Don't worry WG. I'm sure 16 or 55 will take care of Hamonic. They really seem to understand their roles.
ReplyDeleteOT, but I'm kind of stunned that Sweden-Russkie game tonight isn't televised.
ReplyDeleteGood for Sam. Rewarded for going to the tough areas.
ReplyDeleteLouie says "Mosh pit in front of the net"!! Good one!
ReplyDeleteWhat absolutely kills me when watching this team isn't necessarily how often our guys get drilled with big checks, that's just part of the game. It's when a skill guy from the other team, like Tavares, is in a position to get absolutely plastered behind the net...and Belanger totally lets him off the hook
ReplyDeleteThat should be a NYI goal, as ugly as it is.
ReplyDeleteGrab some pine Dubie!! You get a chance to play and you look like shit... again!!
ReplyDeleteGood to see Sam in the blue paint.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievably lucky call for the Grease Spots.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how you fault the goalie on that one.
ReplyDeleteHis angles have been fucked up all period. Cheating way too much.
ReplyDeleteI guess, it just seems like some bad bounces so far.
ReplyDeleteCheating way too much? His job there was to hold the post. Moulson should have had a man on him.
ReplyDeleteNice to see Lunchpail Sammy with a digit by his name.
ReplyDeleteEveryone else catch Oil Change last night? I thought Gagners philosophy of playing through injuries was pretty cool.
Khabibulin - "I don't know how many years I have left, so I might as well have fun with it."
Years? Oh boy.
Tavares is a killer.
ReplyDeletePotter's goof, by my eye. Double teams Tavares leaving Moulson open.
ReplyDeleteYou're awesome Mr Hopkins...but that was terrible.
ReplyDeleteNo defense in this game. Lot's of odd man rushes.
ReplyDeleteThis game has all the defensive acumen of a split squad game.
ReplyDeleteDid everyone take the over?
Hemsky needs the same thing on his line that he's needed forever...a shooter.
Hall is flying again.
Sutton should be forbidden from ever pinching.
Yeah, bad decision by the nuge.
ReplyDeleteLottery Team hockey. Should be used to it by now but it's frustrating as ever. Think I'll go do something useful.
ReplyDeleteA bit off topic, but it's a follow-up to a question I posted the other day. I'm new here, but would love a response from some of you.
ReplyDeleteI'm worried if we lose Omark to Sweden and Hemsky to trade/UFA, Eberle will become the only reasonable RW for other teams to key in on. This seems similar to the period of time when both Stoll and Reasoner left the Oilers, leaving Horcoff to do all the heavy lifting at the centre position. To my eye, Horcoff hasn't been the same player since Stoll and Reasoner left.
Is it fair that regardless of what we think of Hemsky (which seems to range from "submlime talent" vs. "uninterested second liner"), can we at least agree that keeping Hemsky would be good for Eberle's continued development?
For what it's worth, I'm on the re-sign Hemsky bus.
I think they're trying the Capitals method now. If you can't stop the other team from scoring you have to score more than them. Everyone in! RobVanDam must be loving this.
ReplyDeleteI can't decide if Susan from the Boston Pizza wing ads is a "Nib" or a "Nub".
ReplyDeletePeeps,
ReplyDelete23 will be in the NHL not Sweden. He's stated as much. Might not be with the Oilers.
I'd like to the the RW chart as:
83
14
23
56/28
Tambellini has said 56 has top 6 potential so if they get rid of both 23 and 83 it might look like:
14
56
28
37
Losing both 83 and 23 would be insane, so I expect it to happen.
Thank god Eager is on the team to keep them from getting their show run.
ReplyDeleteJust fucking bench him already.
This is brutal.
ReplyDeleteDD, DOA
ReplyDeleteI woke up for this??
ReplyDeleteDD should have had that.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't look good at all.
yikes
ReplyDelete"Take that, Ben Eager." This is the worst.
ReplyDeleteIs this not where you change the goalie?
ReplyDeleteEager and Dubnyk are brutal tonight.
ReplyDeleteI honestly have no idea why Renney plays Eager/Hordichuk as often as he does.
Dubnyk is just bad tonight.
It's one thing to lose bad to a good team, but to the freaking Islanders?
ReplyDeleteThere are no excuses for this - players or coach.
I'm surprised Doobie didn't get snuffed out too after those two weak ones.
ReplyDelete@JimV
ReplyDeleteThis is where you change the channel.
How many times have we seen stay-at-home Dman Sutton deep in the Ozone this game?
ReplyDeleteRenney is horrible at knowing when to hook the goalie.
ReplyDeleteI just can't make myself stop watching, I think something is wrong with me. It actually makes me angry watching it...why can't I quit?
ReplyDeleteThat's our best idea on a 4 on 2?
ReplyDeletePretty important game as far as draft position goes, so are we really losing¿
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing dooz. How sad is it that it's Dec 31st and we are (for many years in a row) paying attention to the draft eligible prospects more closely than the NHL standings.
ReplyDeleteSigh.
These are the important games... good on them for tanking the game in search of a top 3 pick. Management must be proud.
ReplyDeleteIt's not as ugly when you listen on 630 CHED.
ReplyDeleteTrue, but listening to Jack Michaels you'd think this team had a chance.
ReplyDeletePictures show another reality.
Canada - USA better be good! I'd like to see some hockey sometimes today.
ReplyDeleteI think I'll go clean the garage until real hockey comes on the television.
ReplyDeleteThank god for the World Juniors.
can someone give me one good reason why renney shouldnt be fired? how could things get any worse?
ReplyDeleteoil melted down today against one of the leagues worst franchises.
spoiler: Sweden vs Russia is on TSN2 at 8pm
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure that counts as a spoiler.
ReplyDeleteDennis,
ReplyDeleteAre you sure? I mean all Renney has done is HS one of his best PKers so Hordichuk can play 4 and a half minutes, and start his back-up in a game against a weak team when we need a win to break a losing streak.
Surely will win the special team battles and the goaltending battles this way?
He did continue to give Eager shifts when he's obviously suffering from a bad case of stupiditis and we're missing said PKer, but what could be wrong with that?
HG10
ReplyDeleteThanks, bud. I checked TSN2 earlier but didn't see it.
By what metric(s) is Pettrell one of our best PKers?
ReplyDeleteIt's fallacious to assume that just because a player is useless in one facet of the game, he must be useful in others.
"Steve":
ReplyDeleteThanks for supplying my reasoning for me; what would I do without you?
He's an eminently better PKer than Hordichuk or Eager, his replacements, and couldn't do much worse than what we've seen on the PK tonight.
Actually, I just noticed that Petrell's got the worst PKSV% of PKing forward, so I may be dinging him unfairly (I initially took note of his PDO being really high, but PDO's not a terribly useful measure on special teams given the low sample size of shots in one direction). But he's also scored against at a fierce rate.
ReplyDeleteThanks for supplying my reasoning for me; what would I do without you?
ReplyDeleteI never said that was your reasoning: I'm very fond of non sequitur, and haven't ever seen a zebra in person.
Anyway, "much better than Eager and Hordichuk" is not the same as "one of the best on the team". But you knew that.
Hence the rest of that statement, and perhaps you should look up non sequitur, although I presume you knew that too.
ReplyDeleteAm getting little tired of Jack Michaels saying that it's all about luck. Yeah, Hall has hit 2 posts and a crossbar, but they didn't move them in just before he shot the puck.
ReplyDeleteOilers have not deserved to win this game and that's why they're down 4-1 to a team that's obviously not as bad as they are.
I dont think the Islanders have done that well drafting. On their top line only tavares was drafted by the organization. Nino? Meh, hes got less points then PRV.
ReplyDeleteFrom where they have been drafting the past five years, they should have better players.
Jonesy might not be showing off his dance moves in Times Square tonight.
ReplyDeleteWoodgguy: thanks for your feedback about the RW depth status moving forward.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the Oilers think Sam Gagner won't pan out as a centre, but could play RW? That's still nowhere near as good as having Hemsky though.
To everyone: have a happy New Year. Thanks for helping make following the Oilers a more interesting & slightly-less-painful experience.
At what point does this performance become unacceptable to the fanbase? I fail to see why management will change anything when people keep spending money to watch this shit.
ReplyDeleteIts coming to a head for for me, i simply cannot endure another year of shit hockey. Tomorrow is january 1st, a new year. Its the perfect time to make the declaration that i will be done watching this team after the next calender year unless something is changed.
What players will want to play for a shit franchise that relies on tanking to acquire talent? Why on earth would players like Hall, Eberle, RNH etc even want to be part of this long term? This organization stinks and everyone knows it.
At this point i want a complete gutting of the front office and coaching staff. Its a fucking embarrassment. Sorry for the rant but I fail to see how things are any better than the franchise's "low point" of the early 90s. This is the nadir of what has become the Laughing stock of the league.
Wake up people! Stop paying for this inferior product!
Things sure are looking up for the future though....what a joke
Jack Michaels is awful... he feels the need to exaggerate and at times 'make shit up' in order to pretend the game is better/closer than it really is.
ReplyDeleteAnd he is even worse when a fight breaks out... I've listened to him call a fight thinking it was a great balanced scrap and been alarmed at how badly the Oiler was beaten down after viewing it on video.
Can't trust anything he says during a radio broadcast.
I was going to see the Oilers game here in Chicago on Monday night, but with that effort, why bother wasting $80 per on tickets.
ReplyDeleteI can watch them get slaughtered on TV instead.
I think it's time to start thinking about changing up the coaching staff.
Itsaleaf said:
ReplyDelete"...Its the perfect time to make the declaration that i will be done watching this team after the next calender year unless something is changed."
Don't worry... there WILL be changes next year. We'll be without one (or both) of Hemsky or Gagner, more weight will be loaded onto the shoulders of the kids, and some irrelevant plug players will be replaced by others.
The only hope I really have is that Khabibulin will be entering a contract year. That always works, right? Right?!
Year Save %
2000-01 0.913
2001-02 0.92
2002-03 0.911
2003-04* 0.91 *contract year
2005-06 0.886
2006-07 0.902
2007-08 0.909
2008-09* 0.919 *contract year
2009-10 0.909
2010-11 0.89
2011-12 0.924
Oh... that only works when he's on a young team that's putrid in year 1, and getting steadily better by adding talented players through BOTH drafting and free agency / trading... nevermind.
musil out of Finland's lineup today,concussion
ReplyDeleteKen Hitchcock was available. Blues have played about .700 hockey since he took over.
ReplyDeleteRenney has lost me as well. This team has issues, but Renney isn't getting enough out of them IMO.
I'm getting more enjoyment out of the Flyers/Rangers alumni game.
F'in Kevin Hatcher - That brings back some bad memories
I think he was already out of Finland's line up lol, but I catch your drift. And not good news.
ReplyDeleteMusil - Not surprising - he obviously got his bell rung yesterday - was disappointed they sent him back out there.
ReplyDeleteOh Joy - more injury issues for Oiler prospects.
Jets are a fun team to watch, fans are great to. I enjoy Noel's interviews after the game - no BS. Gonna give more of my hockey attention to them and less to this sad franchise in 2012.
Derian Hatcher, not Kevin
ReplyDeleteMan the ice at Rexall looks terrible for the Fin - Czech game. There's so much snow on the ice - They may as well play street hockey on Gretzky Drive. Embarassing
ReplyDeleteI understand the appeal of a Hordichuk-Eager 4th line, what's not to like about a couple of bangers who can really wear down the opposition? Problem is, that's not what happens. I've been against Eager from the start so maybe I'm biased, but I haven't seen much of these two guys running around bruising the bad guys' defence. The modern NHL bash-brothers wouldn't be Kocur and Probert, you'd want Tootoo and Clutterbuck. Fighting isn't the same thing as hitting- maybe he's still hurt but Eager has not come as advertised.
ReplyDeleteThat said, obviously this game is not on the fourth line. A healthy Omark subbing in for Eager might be a deck-chair, but details add up.
Teubert sent down to OKC.
ReplyDeleteThat'll fix it.
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ReplyDeleteMaybe we send Renney down to OKC and bring Nelson up for a week too?
ReplyDeleteJust read the JSBM piece on Hemsky.
ReplyDeleteIt's a damn shame that a Matheson or Jones - ie. not one of the MSM punks - doesn't put something like that out there, throw down the gauntlet for the wannabes in the papers and the front office. Just write a nice long shit-bomb like that one, and set it on fire on the front page. Why the hell not?
I can't even muster the energy to criticize the organization anymore.If Katz is sanctioning this direction and the ensuing results there isn't much to do other than sit back and watch.
ReplyDeleteI was all for trading Hemsky earlier for help at the D position but we're not going to get an established NHL D man for him so I hope they can agree on a 1 year deal-to quote our host picks and prospects is madness.
Alice,
ReplyDeleteThe two Hall of Fame reporters that you refer to are much, much more likey to set fire to any Oiler on the way out of town than ever question management.
They have in the past, they will in the future.
LT, you picked a great game to miss with the radio show.
Awful and putrid come to mind in describing it.
The Oilers were actually carrying the play both times that Eager got his idiotic penalties that resulted on NYI goals.
They did get him to help change momentum in games I guess.
I was for the Eager signing initially as he has shown he can play a little hockey in the past, but he hasn't shown it here at all. Didn't realize that the 55 on his jersey indicated his IQ as well.
Has shown no clue this year.
1st year of a 3 year deal.
Oy.
about to celebrate 2012 in the UK. Not sure though if I should be celebrating 2009 having watched today...
ReplyDelete@ WG
ReplyDeleteEager has played for 5 different teams in 6 years.
There's a reason for that.
Hordichuk wore out his welcome in Florida, Nashville and Vancouver for the same reason.
They help you lose hockey games.
Massey wrote a brilliant post game item at C&B. I laughed very hard. Funny, funny stuff.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteEager has played for 5 different teams in 6 years.
There's a reason for that.
Hordichuk wore out his welcome in Florida, Nashville and Vancouver for the same reason.
They help you lose hockey games.
Its becoming clear now.
What I liked was how both Eager and Hordichuk went after Martin when he hit Smid not only cleanly but even respectfully. He really could have lit Ladi up, but didn't.
ReplyDeleteAnd by "liked" I mean "hated".
I only wanted a playoff semi-contender by New Year's Eve...instead that wanker ~Tambellini has given me another winter of discontent.
ReplyDeleteDang.
Eventually Katz is going to realise the incredible resource of the Oilogosphere or whatever the fuck it's called.
Looks like Renney's going to be promoted come July, cus he sure as shooting isn't going to still be managing the team.
@ Hunter
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that will convince Katz is empty seats.
How many times have the Oilers made the playoffs during the reign of Kevin Lowe?
So 2011 is done.
ReplyDeleteTo LT and the commenters on this site:
Thank you for another great year of insight, humour, venting, pretty ladies, etc. Basically a welcome daily ray of sunshine here in hockey equivelant of mudville.
To Oilers management dream team:
F@CK OFF!
You iced a squad that gave us what - 9 games total worth remembering in the last trip around the sun? I too bought into the slow and proper re-build, but really. Untrained monkeys could also consistently peal off last place finishes. Let me be the first to call UNCLE, and ask - what part of the slow and proper re-build comes next? I know, wait for the next Oil Change to piece together the hidden 'clues'. Surely the monkeys would be more entertaining.
To the owner (aka Batman):
Wherever you are holed up tonight, think about us. Winter's are long and cold here sir. You remember, don't you? Good hockey? Demand more from those you are paying good money to manage your assets - they are YOUR assets. Before the kids have rights and decide to leave, give us a sign, signal, written communique, legal notice, anything as to what you expect from your team moving forward, other than as a chip to winning an arena deal. Tell us, does your team winning matter to you? If so, it's not apparent.
That felt better. Now onward to 2012 and another year of hope - but first a night of drinkin' and forgettin'.
Cheers!
With Colorado, Phoenix and Dallas wins, the Oilers are now 11 points out of 8th.
ReplyDelete@DSF: Buddy, from here on we only check the bottom five in the standings...Oilers have taken up residence there and we all expect them to challenge for that vaunted 30th place finish, just like they managed last season.
ReplyDeleteNow I know it is a risk for the Oilers to draft Russians...
@hunter: The last TWO seasons, lest we forget. Going for the Nordiques Hat Trick here.
ReplyDelete@NOTB: Nice monkey's uncle reference. Nice rant, too.
DSF said...
ReplyDeleteEager has played for 5 different teams in 6 years.
There's a reason for that.
Hordichuk wore out his welcome in Florida, Nashville and Vancouver for the same reason.
They help you lose hockey games.
Yep. Those 4th liners are so damned important in the grand scheme of things huh? The sack of shit top 6/9 we ice every night couldn/t be the issue. Nooooo.
Any players not named Hall, Eberle, RNH, Smid, or Gilbert should be considered trade fodder, but it's such a motley collection it won't garner fack all.
word ver: undlowe...really?...Undlowe we're not going anywhere
Klefbom scored today...
ReplyDeleteTake that, world.
Sweden hasn't given up a goal with the Klefa on the ice. The two Martins with one each over Swiss.
ReplyDeleteMagnus Paajarvi still has no goals in the AHL since being demoted!
ReplyDeleteThink MPS should call up Crosby's folks and ask to borrow that clothes dryer for a few weeks, get him on track.
ReplyDeleteYep. Those 4th liners are so damned important in the grand scheme of things huh? The sack of shit top 6/9 we ice every night couldn/t be the issue. Nooooo.
ReplyDeleteSeeing as the Oilers were carrying the play when 55 got his first penalty, and then were carrying it again when he got his 2nd, I'd say that yes, 4th liners can be pretty important.
Hemsky only gets assists and most everyone thinks that is fine'n'dandy. Sign him again. Give him multimillions for multi years. He's scored 20 goals exactly how many times? His best power play ever, ranked what 14th in the league?
ReplyDeleteBasically the same players as last year, and minus Whitney, and Nugent-Hopkins has the power play in the top 5.
Paajarvi gets assists and people think he's a bum.
4 assists in 6 games. After an adjustment period after just being sent down, he's going at a point-a-game.
Glass half full? Glass half empty?
Woodguy said...Seeing as the Oilers were carrying the play when 55 got his first penalty, and then were carrying it again when he got his 2nd, I'd say that yes, 4th liners can be pretty important
ReplyDeleteGrand scheme of things says they don't have much impact WG but I suspect you know that already. If they were to become a factor that would tend to say a lot about the coaching I'd think.
When all you can muster against a pretty weak team is a goal bounced in off the ass of someone who can only really score that way the 4th line isn't your bigest issue.
This teams top 9 is one of if not THE weakest in the league. Toss in a patchwork D and hit or miss goaltending most nights and its really no surprise we are where we are in the standings.
If 94-10 are our 3rd line LW and C next year, and he's added a decent goaltender and two decent D we can say ST actually did something right for a change. Thats what this team needs imo.
Shouldn't be too hard securing a solid #2 line during the offseason should it?