ALL scouting reports rave about Tyler Pitlick’s ability to be a physical factor in games, and many suggest he will indeed play in the NHL as a center (although he’s back on the wing of late). The great unknown–at least the great unproven–is his ability to score goals and contribute to goal scoring.
Based on the monthly stats, offense is a moving target for the AHL rookie. Here are Pitlick’s month by month totals so far this season in Oklahoma City:
- OCT: 8, 1-2-3 +1
- NOV: 11, 3-1-4 -7
- DEC: 2, 0-0-0 -1
- OVERALL: 21, 4-3-7 -7
- PP: 21, 2-1-3
- PK: 21, 0-1-1
- EV: 21, 2-1-3

Pitlick is an interesting interview. This article is a very good look into the “new” Oilers and their emphasis on communication. I would dearly love to quote about 10 things from the article but will limit it to just one:
- Pitlick: “College was pretty physical, but I don’t think it really compares to this level. It was a step up for me last season in Medicine Hat, and I think I handled it well. It’s been another step up here in OKC, but I think I’ve done well adapting to this, too. That’s one area, but there are a lot of other things I’ve had to work on as well.”
Redline Report: “Accelerates briskly out of cross-over and blows by defenders. Has an NHL calibre shot right now. Flashed the ability to power through defenders. Can gain separation in corners with sharp twists and can turn on a dime. Patient playmaker. Long-limbed with farmboy like strength. Aggressive and finished checks. Can shield the puck and work it down low, but often gives it up due to his eagerness to come off the wall and attempt to dance around defenders. Work in progress defensively – will come back deep and battle for the puck but lacks awareness in coverage assignments. Green in many facets and was stuck on a Mankato team that was every man for himself, but was a big-time talent.”
I’m very hopeful about Pitlick, but the offense is going to be the story. Even if he ends up being a winger, Edmonton can get full value from a 2-way, physical winger who can chip in 15-20 goals a season. His NHLE by season suggests that might be what we’re looking at in this player:
- 09-10 (18): 82, 10-7-17
- 10-11 (19): 82, 12-15-27
- 11-12 (20): 82, 7-5-12

Tyler Pitlick is an interesting prospect. He isn’t an offensive dynamo, but with all of the top end talents already in Edmonton there might be a role on a skill line for a physical forward prepared to get his nose dirty. Pitlick’s skill set tells us there are several options, and one of them might be as a complementary player on a skill line.
In other words, exactly what many fans are calling for right now at the NHL level.

I couldn't get over how well Pitlick looked playing opposite of Hall in the pre-season. He was using his body well to separate men from the puck and did not shy away from anything physical.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion this kid and Harksi are going to provide a nice 1-2 punch in the top 9 in the very near future.
I was worried about Pitlick a few weeks ago, but the Ryan Dittrick article on Oilers.nhl.com really pumped his tires. On draft day, of course, he was marveled at as a steal for #31.
ReplyDeleteEither way, it suuure would be nice to see Pitlick succeed.
And one more thing: it's a good name his parents didn't name him Arm.
Hamilton and Pitlick are the two prospects I am pulling for right now, and I figure they are pretty well where they should be. Likely 2 years away from really competing for jobs (definitely behind Harski) and even then working the 4 line for actual energy shifts (instead of running around and diving when someone retaliates).
ReplyDeleteHe looks like a young Horcoff in those pictures, which suggests to me that in about ten years we should have a hell of a player.
ReplyDeleteLT, I'm confused since you're now running two sites with the same posts?
ReplyDeleteWhich site should we be posting comments--this one or the new site?
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ReplyDeleteYes, when is the official migration as I see some conversations happening over there now.
ReplyDeleteRyan: It's either or now, this blog will be closed up over Christmas probably. We're still working on bringing over the comments and if we end up not being able to I'll keep this puppy going because there are a lot of wonderful archived comments.
ReplyDeleteOn good teams, players that can't score are useless. We shouldn't be aspiring to be Minnesota, that just gets by. We should be aspiring to be Chicago, which never has enough talent, and runs skill players on every line they can. That's the way you win in the NHL.
ReplyDeleteA physical player who can't score is the definition of useless. So either Pitlick starts scoring or he is irrelevant depth player.
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ReplyDelete....and fans of this team know an "irrelevant depth player" when they see one!
ReplyDeleteEvery team in the league has prospects like Hamilton and Pitlick.
ReplyDeleteSome have a bunch...no cause for celebration.
Really hoping one of Pitlick or Hartikainen can become the top 9, possible top 6 power forward type that this team lacks so badly right now.
ReplyDeleteBest team by far in today's NHL rolls out a Lucic, Horton and Marchand in their top 6. No wonder Vancouver couldn't make it happen with only Kesler doing trenchwork and Mary Kate and Ashley cherrypicking. The rejuvenated Blues have a muderer's row for a top 9 every night out. Philly...blah blah, LA...blah blah. We roll 3 daycare eligibles + 2 greybeards out in front of a patchwork D every night and wonder why the playoffs are becoming a distant hope?
I really hope ST is done analyzing after this season and gets serious about what this team really needs. I don't see why we have to be taking babysteps when in reality it could be a lot quicker trip to utopia.
Every team in the league has prospects like Hamilton and Pitlick.
ReplyDeleteSome have a bunch...no cause for celebration.
Wow.
exode: what DSF does.
Teams don't need power forwards. They need forwards who can score. If they happen to have power too, well fine. But it is the least important thing to look for.
ReplyDeleteThere is no greater error a team could make then to reify the idea of a "power forward."
The Oilers don't lose because they aren't physical. They lose because they don't have enough good players. Getting more physical players won't lead to any wins if it comes at the cost of good players.
I'm harping on this because a segment of the fanbase is intent on running good players like Gagner and Omark out of town and replacing them with players who are big but might not be good. Or worse players who are neither big nor good but try really hard.
Here you go Woodguy-Laforge comments on realignment.
ReplyDeleteIt appears that the NHL has left themselves a little wiggle room wrt to the Phoenix situation-we could still wind up with 15 teams on each side of the ledger.
Renney
-Belanger is on the powerplay because he is a left handed shot.There you go.
-sounds like Lander is ready to go
Captain Obvious said..
ReplyDeleteI'm harping on this because a segment of the fanbase is intent on running good players like Gagner and Omark out of town and replacing them with players who are big but might not be good. Or worse players who are neither big nor good but try really hard.
Or...the two players you mentioned are redundant vs what we already have, aren't as good as you seem to think they are, and you can only have so many of them. Nowhere did I say "big but not good." Kesler is pretty good. Ditto for Lucic, Horton, Backes, etc etc.
You don't think we need those PF types when we get beaten by pretty much any team that pushes the kids around then cool. We have the softest top 9 in the league pretty much and as long as we do we won't be making or winning too many playoff games.
We didn't win all because of Gretzky and Kurri iirc and we won't running out RNH, Eberle, Hall and Gagner in the top 6 either.
We didn't win all because of Gretzky and Kurri iirc
ReplyDeleteI love Messier (much more than Gretzky), but I think the Oilers would have been a better team if we'd had another Gretzky in his place.
Messier wasn't important because he played a certain style. He was important because, on balance, he made significant contributions to the Oilers outscoring their opponents. But Gretzky's contributions in that regard were even more significant.
Really don't see what Lander brings that O'Marra wasn't. Unless it's the poorer FO percentage, lack of body contact, etc, etc.
ReplyDeleteNice to see Pitlick make an appearance, lol. I can totally see the trepidation in ranking this player though. In some ways it would be easier if we could have seen 3 years from the same league, because my sense is that we're not seeing the improvement year to year that we would expect to on a guy that cracked the NCAA and got that glowing report from Woodlief. And of course linemates and TOI are big factors with all these guys, context we don't know.
ReplyDeleteBut I have to give credit to a guy who has played all over and done pretty good. He's got a wicked shot, combined with decent feet, so if he figures out the south end of town, he's probably got a decent career. Plus his aggression gives him an element Hamilton doesn't have.
Cabbiesmacker, you are just completely off base on this. It is axiomatic that you can never have too many good hockey players.
ReplyDeleteAny argument that includes the view that guys like Gagner or Omark are redundant is a contradiction in terms since in a world of finite talent, talent can never be redundant.
An argument that they aren't good players is possible though I wouldn't agree with it. However, an argument that their "isn't room for them," or "you can have only so many of them," is impossible. It is the definition of insignificant speech, speech that signifies nothing, because they are words that cannot be formed into an intelligible sentence.
The fact that a sizeable portion of the fanbase, or the hockey world, believe otherwise only demonstrates their ignorance of the rational laws of the universe. It's like denying gravity.
"Steve Smith" said...
ReplyDeleteWe didn't win all because of Gretzky and Kurri iirc
I love Messier (much more than Gretzky), but I think the Oilers would have been a better team if we'd had another Gretzky in his place.
I'd like Crosby and RNH as our 1-2 as well Steve but doubt very much it happens. We're lucky to have one Gretzky Lite right now so lets surround him and his two buddies with some real players outside of limited shelf life Smyth and Horcoffs.
I don't like the thought of Gagner being our #2 in a year or two is all. Just don't see the point. Counterbalance RNH with a Jordan Staal type and I like the picture much better.
Good discussion point raised though. Would the Oilers have won more cups with another 99 and one less 11? Not sure I know the answer to that one actually.
ophiness theres days when you just feel Ophi
I'd like Crosby and RNH as our 1-2 as well Steve but doubt very much it happens.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't work - too similar. No room for them both.
Counterbalance RNH with a Jordan Staal type and I like the picture much better.
ReplyDeleteThat's because Jordan Staal is a better player than Sam Gagner, not because his type is somehow more complementary.
Teams don't need power forwards. They need forwards who can score. If they happen to have power too, well fine. But it is the least important thing to look for.
ReplyDelete60 game seasons or sums, Seasons average for 11 best goal scoring oilers since the lockout. A clear goal drop after #11.
1. Smyth 28.4G/Season
2. Lupul 24.75 G/Season
3. Penner 24.70 G/Season
4. Eberle 24.00 G/Season
5. Hall 21.8 G/season
6. Hemsky 19.3 G/season
7. Stoll 18.0 G/Season
8. Torres 17.8 G/season
9. Jones 16.8 G/Season
10. Glencross 16.5 G/season
11 Horcoff 16.0 G/season
Nice 6 out of the 10 consistent goal scorers since the lockout were sent out of town. Luckily one came Back.
Captain Obvious said...
ReplyDeleteCabbiesmacker, you are just completely off base on this.
In your opinion of course but I also see you making similar assumptions that good players can't be big. Maybe we just haven't drafted any but thats no reason to think they don't exist.
Big wasn't the question here anyways. It's talent... WITH size and grit. It actually exists. I've seen it.
As for Omark and Gagner, I'm sorry but I just don't see giving one more minutes and the other an NHL ice surface to skate on makes the Oilers a better team.
Middlin players is my def of both. We have enough of those I think.
"Steve Smith" said...
ReplyDeleteWouldn't work - too similar. No room for them both.
Ditto the Gretzky/Gretzky combo then I guess. :)
And therein lies my Gagner/RNH redundance argument although it would certainly help if one of them was actually a factor.
Oh cabbiesmacker...
ReplyDeleteDSF: "Billy Sweatt is Ryan Kelser 2.0"
ReplyDeleteNot much up on prospect evaluation, but if he can be physical like Cal Clutterbuck he might easily book a ticket past players with skill. The "physical player with shot" story seems to have sustain.
ReplyDeleteI think what we are seeing - and it's too be expected - is that we've harvested the potential impact players crop with guys like 4-14-93 and now you hope that guys like 91-Hamilton-Pitlick become guys who can round out the core.
ReplyDeleteI wish Pitlick was being played at pivot all the time, though, and it was a competition between him and 47 for the non-93 centre position. That's assuming the Oilers have to build totally from within and considering how trades work out for the Oil maybe that's more reality than pessimism.