Sunday, October 16, 2011

Oklahoma City Beatdown

Oklahoma City Barons took the Texas Stars to the woodshed last night, payback for a week old thrashing that went the other way.

For Oiler fans, it was an extremely interesting night, as some kids took part in the scoring and others didn't appear in the game.

It's early, and much too early to start getting bothered by the results. However, some Barons are off to nice starts and are worthy of note.



(Colten Teubert in action against the Stars)

  1. W Teemu Hartikainen (3, 1-1-2 -1) leads the OKC Barons forwards in shots on goal (9) and got his goal on the powerplay. I'd think he would be the most likely candidate for callup should Hordichuk's injury replacement not come from the group of forwards already in Edmonton (Gagner, Eager). If he played in the Detroit system, Hartikainen might be looking at an ETA of 2013 fall, but this is Edmonton and the next callup might be the last one. A long term solution for the Oilers unless they trade him.
  2. D Colten Teubert (3, 2-1-3 +2) leads all Barons in shots on goal (10) and was back with Kevin Montgomery last night forming a solid pairing for OKC.  Expect he'll be a callup sometime this season, but Potter impressed last night, Whitney is close to a return and Petry was a HS so there's no need to push him.
  3. F Tyler Pitlick (3, 1-2-3 +1) I talked to Jim Byers (OKC PBP man) yesterday and he told me Pitlick was turning heads with his physical play. He's also posted some crooked numbers early and that bodes well for him. He could see some NHL action this season if the usual bushel of injuries hit the Oilers.  
  4. C Chris VandeVelde (3, 1-2-3 +3) He played a big part in the win last night and may see some NHL time this season. VV's window is now, so if RNH and Lander stay in the NHL we might see VandeVelde offloaded to another team for a talented player at another position. He's building a nice resume.
  5. F Antti Tyrvainen (2, 0-1-1 +4) A peppy forward with some zip, he's a guy we should keep track of this season.
I could list another 5, but those are the kids who are both tracking well and could have a future with the big league team. Not among the group is Curtis Hamilton, Byers told me that since Hamilton isn't on either special team there hasn't been a great deal of ice for him so far this season. He didn't dress last night, so one would guess he's a bit behind Pitlick at this time.

Barons host Houston this afternoon, you can catch the pbp via either the OKC site or the AHL site.

37 comments:

  1. For a team that new, setting records can't be too hard.

    Nice to see the young Oilers pushing the envelope. Lander might benefit from some time with OKC (based on last night's game) once Gagner comes back, and Harski could eat Petrell's lunch if he comes up to take Hordichuk's spot.

    Nice to see a lopsided score for the Barons and hopefully it continues (c'mon Hamilton, force the issue!).

    mitions - unknown subatomic particle

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  2. LT: i knew i K-montgomery's name mentioned last night, did he sign an AHL deal on the quiet in light of all the D injuries? Should have been re-signed in the first place if you ask me, solid player from all accounts...

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  3. Easy: Yes, they signed him yesterday after getting him back off loan from an ECHL team. agreed, they should have signed him in the first place.

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  4. I think Hartikainen is our best prospect not currently in the bigs, and would really like to see him make the move up soon. Based on last years limited time offering and the way he's followed through this year I don't think there should be too many questions about what he can bring.

    The gap between Lander and the rest of our centres is starting to become obvious so it looks like an A stint is in order.

    Hopefully Eager is back soon to take Hordichuk's spot and Hartski comes up to replace/bump Petrell and/or Jones.

    Seriously wondering if Columbus has the rumoured interest in Omark and if he + could land Savard for our blue. I've seen enough of Peckham to think he should be below both Petry and Potter. Don't know if buddy bulked up too much during the offseason of if he's just being exposed for what he truly is, but he's hugely disappointing. I haven't seen one thing from him that says required asset.

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  5. on't know if buddy bulked up too much during the offseason of if he's just being exposed for what he truly is, but he's hugely disappointing.

    Perhaps he is just a bit young and is going to have ups and downs as he develops.

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  6. What's going on with Brule? Didn't see him in the lineup last night, and the Barons say he's only played one game. Is he being healthy scratched? In the AHL??

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  7. book¡e said...
    Perhaps he is just a bit young and is going to have ups and downs as he develops.


    OR, a slight talent upgrade on the Oiler D this year vs last is really showing how bad the guy really is. I hear you book;e but the guy looks to have regressed to me. Not looking for him to become mobile or contribute offensively overnight, decent 5-6 stay at home is perfectly fine, but can they teach basic puck sense these days? I will say that I think he's been thrown into some on-ice situations he has absolutely no business being anywhere near.

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  8. For a team that new, setting records can't be too hard.

    Who got six goals?

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  9. Broken records from tonight’s game:
    -Goals in a game: 10
    -Points: 28
    -Assists: 18
    -Goals in a period: 6 (second period)
    -Margin of victory: 9
    -Fastest two goals: 0:10
    -Fastest three goals: 0:44
    -Consecutive goals: 9
    -Best individual +/-: Tyrvainen and Grant’s +4

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  10. If this team has a farm team that mirrors the big team, then Tambellini's a genius.

    I thought Oilers looked good last night, especially that one who looks like an accountant. We're witnessing the evolution of hockey in RNH - pity Hall gets knocked over 10x every game though.

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  12. Edmonton Oilers
    NHL_Oilers Edmonton Oilers

    "Had an MRI today, didn't show anything. It's just sore & weaker. 5-7 days to get rid of pain & 5-7 to strengthen." Hemsky on his shoulder
    49 minutes ago

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  13. LT, or others, looking for some Fin-formation. I'm currently in Finland sorting out my wife's late mom's estate and will get a chance to take in a Finnish League game later this week.

    The local team is HPK (as we are in Hameenlinna) and was wondering if any current or former Oilers of note (or current prospects of note) have an HPK connection. Planning on getting a jersey but if I knew of a Oil-drop link, all the better.

    Thoughts?

    Already checked on Hartikainen - no dice, sadly.

    "tuallmo" is the word verification and may also be the name of the prospect I seek.

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  14. Raimo Summanen played there for a bit, he was a highly touted Oiler pick once mentioned as the future LW for 99. Always liked him.

    Niinimaki played there after bouncing around all over, but only fr awhile.

    Not an Oiler, but the brilliantly named Tapio Levo ended his career there.

    Love the Finns.

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  16. I haven't seen one thing from him that says required asset.

    You must have missed that play last night when Theo drove Alex Burrows right through the net.

    Other than that, though, he has flat-out sucked from the beginning of training camp.

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  17. Don't forget he grabbed Weiss and fed him a couple of punches after the charge trying to drive his elbow through Eberle's ear.

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  18. I wonder if OKC is the first team in pro hockey to improve their goal differential by 8, two games in a row? By my math, that makes them 17-goal favourites to win today, but I never do entirely trust math. :|

    Reminds me of the time the Oilers hosted a two-game weekend series against the New England Whalers in the last year of the WHA. My season ticket pal had an (equally) obnoxious friend who was a Whalers fan, so he bet him some serious coin on a two-games-total-goals basis.

    So on the Friday night the Oil came out blazing, Gretzky was hopping, and the WHAlers looked old, slow, and confused. Final score, 8-2 Oilers.

    Not content with his "insurmountable" lead, my pal phoned up other buddy on the Saturday and just gave him the gears, rubbing it in how superior the Oilers were.

    Come the Sunday, though, and two completely different teams showed up wearing the same uniforms. Oilers sucked gas from puck drop, were out of synch and off their game all night, while the Whalers were motivated by having the score run up on them the previous game. The Oil fell behind early, and things went from bad to worse. By late in the third period it was 6-0 Whalers, until some plug like Alan Hangsleben put the cherry on top with a softie against a disinterested Oilers backup goalie. There couldn't have been 100 people left in the building, but my friend was one of them and he didn't take it well. At all. The 8-2 lead had turned into a 9-8 defeat, and he would be eating crow for some weeks thereafter.

    Still makes me laugh to think of it, and reminds me that every day is different. Whatever happened before is relevant but hardly predetermining. Ask OKC and Texas about that.

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  19. 37 wasn't in the regular PK rotation last night and the last two games he's received extra TOI because in both instances - first 83 and then 16 - a player went down and that increased everyone's icetime.

    I don't think he's long for the big club unless they really want 56 to get a lot of minutes in OKC.

    I think you keep 57 around until both 83 and 89 are ready. I really don't like breaking him in as a 4th liner and PK guy but I'd like to put 89 on the winger in an offensive role.

    Looking really forward, say two years time, - and assuming the Oilers build their forwards corps strictly in-house - I think it's 4-94-Hamilton-56 on the LW and 14-91-Pitlick down the RW. 93-10-20-57 down the middle.

    I think the Oilers will lose patience with 83 and I think that with so much flash on the first line, a guy like 23 will be shown out as soon as a RW with size and grit like Pitlick is ready to take his place.

    As for now, when 89 and 55 gets back, I suggest this:

    4-93-14
    94-10-89
    91-20-23
    55-57-28

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  20. Sad day on the Indy Car circuit, nasty crash today. Dan Wheldon RIP.

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  21. 2-0 OKC, Cornet with both goals, Danis with the shutout, stopped 34 shots

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  22. who is 16 and 37? Is using actual names in bad taste?

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  23. 16 is Hordichuk, 37 is Petrell

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  24. kelly: no it's not:) but I just got sick of typing the names over and over again and most of the crew here are hardcores and know the numbers,

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  25. It will be interesting to see what type of team we will really have once Gagner, Whitney, Hemsky, Eager and eventually Teemu Hart (this is a foregone conclusion for me) are all in the line-up. RNH is making it all but impossible for them to send him back to Red Deer so it looks like he will be here for a full season.

    If it was me behind the bench, I would probably run these lines.

    94-89-83
    4-93-14
    91-20-23
    55-10-56

    6-58
    5-77
    44(24)-25

    Of course, this team is still plagued with injuries so the odds of all those guys be healthy are nil.

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  26. Kelly: You go ahead and write the names,and caps are fine. Dennis doesn't like old people like me and since he knows I forget (16 is Derek Sanderson in my world) this is his way of messing with me.

    I mean aside from all the other things. :-)

    As an aside, do you think Dennis uses numbers in all walks of life? "I'd like a beer but have been doing a lot of #1 lately."

    Stuff like that.

    :-)

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  27. LT: yeah, I do like brevity:)

    PB: Yeah, everyone's not ever gonna be healthy at the same time for this club so any line formations expressing that are just blue-skying.

    I mean that's not to say I don't do it myself. Last night in the third when the game got boring I found myself thinking about all hands being healthy and Souray being back.

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  28. But he was so disrespectful!!!!!

    Also, he was 100% on the money but few people ever bring that part up.

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  29. Also, he was 100% on the money...

    And you know this how?

    Also, probably a lot of us could say negative things about our employers that were right on the money. I doubt many of us would feign astonishment if we were fired (which Souray wasn't, owing to the CBA) after saying said things to the media.

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  30. I have the following opinion about Souray. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And so there is probably some truth to his view.

    HOWEVER, I think his decision to speak out was simply because he had made a trade request privately (probably through his agent) and was frustrated to see that the Oilers appeared to be dragging their feet.

    He wanted out and it wasn't happening quickly enough. He wanted expedite things and so he made the decision to speak out.

    I don't think he lied or made things up, but I think there probably was some embellishment on his part.

    And with every he said/she said story there's 3 sides to the story. Souray's, Oilers and the truth somewhere in between.

    Saying he was near 100% correct simply cannot be confirmed. Nor do I believe he was near 100% correct.

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  31. I thought Pitlick was noticeably better than Hamilton throughout both the rookie camp and the main camp. In fact, I thought he was neck in neck with Lander as the best forward without NHL experience (outside of RNH, of course). Lander may be the more polished player right now but I think Pitlick has the greater upside due to better skating and a more rambunctious style, traits which are favourable for the bottom six roles that I think both are destined for. Hartikainen may currently be the most deserved callup but it would not surprise me that, near the end of the season, Pitlick is the one who gets called up and sticks.

    Speaking of RNH, he certainly had a nice night. He was making good offensive decisions all game long and was diligent defensively. But I have to say that his most impressive play was the one near the end when he blew by Edler at the blueline by executing a 90 degree turn with the puck with nary a loss in forward momentum (or else Hall would have gone offside on the opposite wing). That was a phenomenal maneuver that I think only a few NHLers (Datsyuk for sure and maybe Kane?) can pull off with any consistency.

    I know that by sheer luck alone, someone - maybe even a kid - will pull off a fancy one-on-one move that draws the "oohs" and "ahhs" every once in a while. Most of them (i.e. toe-drags, puck-between-skates, puck-between-stick/skate, etc), despite looking sensational, has a great dependency on luck. The move that RNH executed on Edler is simply a plain old agility beatdown, so I think has a much higher degree of repeatability. From watching some of his junior & preseason games, these kinds of lightning quick cuts & turns appear to be a well entrenched part of his repertoire, and it looks like they will translate very well to the NHL level. And that is great news because these types of moves are an absolute bitch to defend. Players with this kind of ability are rare and we may very well have the best-in-class.

    With all that rambling, I guess all I'm trying to say is that, the kid is a heck of a talent. When he matures, he will be a nightmare for anyone to try to contain.

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  32. In the mutterings and mumblings of Scott Oake:

    Agile.

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