The Edmonton Oilers enter their 32nd NHL season having just experienced the nadir of their existence. Pro sports teams often have ebbs and flows, owing to the aging of their stars or the financial consistency of their ownership, but the last two seasons have been something else again. Call it an experiment in losing, call it nightmare happenstance, call it a dream that paves the future, call it barely watchable. Fact: the Edmonton Oilers fanbase--since 2006 summer--have been caught in a bizarre hockey Groundhog Day, the last two 30th place seasons the icing on top or the bottom of the barrel.
Today the long climb to contention begins. It's a long, long way.
There are youngsters everywhere on the roster, but this young man--a little older, now--will be front and center in a "restore the pride" campaign that will involve every shift of the season. The numbers to follow aren't yet in the overall standings or even the conference totals, they are GF/GA, PP goals and PK goals. As a reminder, here are the totals from last season:
- GF: 193 (league average 229)
- GA: 269 (league average 229)
- Difference: -76
- PP goals: 44 (league average 52)
- PP goals against: 74 (league average 52)
This is without a doubt Taylor Hall's team now, but young Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will make his debut tonight and may one day rival Hall as the team's franchise player. RNH will not deliver offensively as Hall did, and his overall game is more cerebral. I think Edmonton fans may be disappointed with his rookie season, after enjoying so many quality rookies one year ago (Hall,, MP, Eberle, Omark, Dubnyk). Here are the projected scoring totals for the 11-12 Oilers:
- Taylor Hall 70, 32-28-60
- Ales Hemsky 57, 17-37-54
- Jordan Eberle 82, 22-30-52
- Sam Gagner 70, 15-35-50
- Magnus Paajarvi 82, 20-20-40
- Linus Omark 70, 13-27-40
- Ryan Smyth 70, 18-19-37
- Eric Belanger 68, 13-23-36
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 63, 11-23-34
- Shawn Horcoff 62, 13-18-31
- Ben Eager 69, 8-8-16
- Teemu Hartikainen 45, 7-8-15
- Darcy Hordichuk 44, 0-3-3
- Ryan Jones 64, 5-11-16
- Anton Lander 16, 1-3-4
- Gilbert Brule 10, 2-1-3
- Curtis Hamilton 10, 1-2-3
- Chris VandeVelde 14, 1-1-2
- Lennart Petrell 10, 1-1-2
Tommy Gilbert has about the same street cred as Tom Poti, but once again he'll be counted on to lead the Oilers blue. A fine young player, I truly hope he's appreciated at his next hockey stop. Here are the projected totals for Oilers defensemen this season:
- Ryan Whitney 50, 4-24-28
- Tom Gilbert 82, 5-23-28
- Cam Barker 66, 7-16-23
- Theo Peckham 70, 3-12-15
- Jeff Petry 50, 2-10-12
- Ladislav Smid 70, 1-7-8
- Taylor Chorney 38, 1-5-6
- Corey Potter 25, 0-5-5
- Andy Sutton 44, 0-3-3
- Taylor Fedun 3, 0-1-1
- Colten Teubert 4, 0-0-0
Clearly Taylor Fedun won't deliver on those totals, but the RE series didn't know he'd suffer that horrible injury.
Devan Dubnyk may start the season as the backup, but the starting goaltender (Khabibulin) has so many down arrows he might as well be a chuckwagon in a John Wayne movie (chuckwagons rarely survived in John Wayne movies). Here are the projected totals for Oilers G:
- Devan Dubnyk 40, 2.90 .917
- Yann Danis 30, 3.00 .905
- Nikolai Khabibulin 10, 3.40 .895
- David LeNeveu 2, 3.50 .880
I have the Oilers scoring 223 goals and allowing 247. That's a goal differential of -24 goals; that represents a massive improvement. Last season's -76 means there was a lot of improving to do, but Dubnyk's move to starter and the addition of a solid backup when Khabibulin fades (it might not be Danis, the club could make a deal with someone like Washington) added to the experienced hands up front should be enough for the Oilers to improve markedly.
We don't need to wait any longer. The results start coming in tonight. Godpseed Oilers, bless you boys.
I hope tonight's game is as good as last years opening game!
ReplyDeleteAnother year of Oiler hockey.
ReplyDelete*buckles up*
*grabs liquor*
GO OILERS!!!
Pens playing 3rd in 4 nights and 2nd of a back to back, AND Malkin had reportedly "tweeked" something last night, AND no Crosby.
ReplyDeleteIf they can ever beat the Pens, its in these circumstances.
Renney is also 7-0 in home openers as a head coach.
4-3 Oilers.
BOOK IT!!
Also,
Interesting read about RNH from Golden Goal Sports Blog
Game day thread! Game day thread! Game day thread!
ReplyDelete'bout fricken time. Let it begin!
LT: You're projecting nightmares for Dubby.
ReplyDeleteIf he has that save% and that GAA, he needs to get bombarded with 38 shots per game.
FPB: You've seen the defense, right?
ReplyDeletePens playing 3rd in 4 nights and 2nd of a back to back, AND Malkin had reportedly "tweeked" something last night, AND no Crosby.
ReplyDeleteIf they can ever beat the Pens, its in these circumstances.
And Brent Johnson in net!
I think we can bring the PK down to league average, which should knock 20 goals off our differential alone.
ReplyDeleteI think Khabby starts in net, because it's a no-lose situation for the coach (however, not the team).
I think Eberle blows that RE away.
Turkey and Oilers... While it doesn't get any better, somehow seeing the two together is so very apropos.
And Brent Johnson in net!
ReplyDeleteIt is almost as though the Pens think the Oil are second-rate opponents.
Clearly Taylor Fedun won't deliver on those totals, but the RE series didn't know he'd suffer that horrible injury.
I guess we have to move the RE series from fortune-telling to best-estimate-based-on-pass-performance category. Huh, who'd've thunk it? ;-)
The Fedun thing still sticks in my craw. But there's hockey on tonight and three kinds of pie between me and the game start.
Today is a good day to die! (Qapla! well, maybe not die, just sit in stuffed stupor while the game washes over me)
Looked in the local rag today and the Oilers are already exceeding expectations, 10th in the WC :p
ReplyDeleteIt's impressive how good of a team the Pens are without Crosby or even Malkin in the lineup.
I keep trying to understand the braintrust's insistence on pretending that Khabibulin's the starting goaltender.
scenario a) run with the Denver boot and we're out of the race for 8th place by December.
scenario b) go with Dubnyk instead and we have a chance of watching some meaningful games come the New Year.
According to Dan Tencer, pairings are:
ReplyDeleteBarker-Petry
Sutton-Gilbert
Smid-Peckham.
Hmm. I didn't think Renney could come up with 3 pairings I didn't like; I've underestimated him.
Bar Qu said...
ReplyDelete"But there's hockey on tonight and three kinds of pie between me and the game start. "
I gotta ask: Pumpkin, lemon meringue and... saskatoon? apple? sweet potato?
savoury turkey pot pie?
the permutations and combinations are dizzying.
And we FINALLY get to start the Oil season.
It is indeed a glorious day to be alive.
Ladislav Smid 70, 1-7-8
ReplyDeleteWG, I'll take the under on Ladi's goal total. Interested?
I guess if history repeats itself, he's due to score a goal this season with his every other year pattern.
the permutations and combinations are dizzying.
ReplyDeleteThe right answer is apple. Always apple. But when the noun pie is attached, the adjective never really matters (unless it is mince meat).
Yeah, LT, those pairings are as bad as mince meat pie. Wonder if we see a blender on D or not.
Anyone else notice how MTL went out and got another D when they lost just one guy to injury. The dummies - don't they see how successful the OILERS model is? (bookie thingy)
Barker-Petry
ReplyDeleteSutton-Gilbert
Smid-Peckham.
Yeah, that's not good. Smid/Peckham is a disaster.
Peckham-Gilbert
Sutton-Petry
Smid-Barker
word verification: swell, as in my defensive line combos.
The problem projecting Smid is that he never met a pane of glass he didn't like.
ReplyDeleteAs per Tencer:
ReplyDeleteIt looks like Hordichuk will be in with Lander and Jones on the 4th line...Petrell a scratch.
FFS!!!
Also,
Sutton,Gilbert
Smid, Petry
Barket, Peckman
is a better way to deploy these guys.
Also,
10/11 SV%
Fleury .918
Johnson .922
Fleury's SV% in 2 games this year: .893
Getting to face Johnson is no favour.
He's making $600K and is UFA next year.
I think the Oilers should go after him.
Ladislav Smid 70, 1-7-8
ReplyDeleteWG, I'll take the under on Ladi's goal total. Interested?
Not a chance.
LT
ReplyDeleteThere are receivers that have alligator arms going over the middle. If Smid was an NFL wide receiver he would blindly run into Jack Tatum's area without thinking about the impending contact
Put another way he NEVER protects himself!!
TOJ: I think that's part of his appeal. He's like Mr. Magoo crossed with Wile E. Coyote.
ReplyDeleteThe Oilers faced backup goaltending an astounding 33 times last season
ReplyDeleteThe problem projecting Smid is that he never met a pane of glass he didn't like.
ReplyDeleteor didn't hit "awkwardly".
Never seen a player hit the glass/boards in a vulnerable position more often than Laddy.
He must have the memory of a goldfish.
Tychkowski tweets that Doobie 1st goalie off ice at practice which usually means he's the one to start.
ReplyDeleteProgress?
I am happy that *ahem* meaningful hockey is back. Although with Renney's D combinations and Khabibulin in net, it may not be meaningful for very long.
ReplyDeleteIf there are any fans in Vancouver, I am heading to the Black Frog in Gastown to watch the game. It's an Oiler bar!
I don't believe DD is starting. No way. It's too progressive. They must plan on changing goalies on the fly this year.
ReplyDeleteWell if DD's starting tonight then he's going to play a lot. 50+ games.
ReplyDeleteOn 2nd thought:
ReplyDeleteSmid,Gilbert
Sutton, Petry
Barker, Peckman
Is a better set than what I put up earlier.
I think we can bring the PK down to league average, which should knock 20 goals off our differential alone.
ReplyDeleteI can see us having a league average corps of penalty killing forwards, though even that may be a bit of a stretch, but I can't see the whole package being average with our defense, goaltending, and system.
Hmm. I didn't think Renney could come up with 3 pairings I didn't like; I've underestimated him.
With what he's got to work with, I'd have been impressed if he came up with one that I didn't hate.
Also, I loved the parenthetical on John Wayne.
I can see us having a league average corps of penalty killing forwards, though even that may be a bit of a stretch, but I can't see the whole package being average with our defense, goaltending, and system.
ReplyDeleteAmong goalies who played more than 20 games last year DD ranked 14th in the NHL (tied with Thomas and Fleury)with .889
Khabby ranked with 48th .815
I think I may have stumbled onto the key to the PK. (bookiethingy!!)
Above are PK SV%
ReplyDeleteWhy do people continually blast Teddy Peckmen? Faces tougher competition and does fairly well...
ReplyDeleteFaces tougher competition and does fairly well...
ReplyDeleteAgreed on the first point.
DSF - Is that 33 times including appearances in relief? Or are you just looking at who started? If you mean all-inclusive, that doesn't seem like a ton.
ReplyDeleteEven if it's looking at who started, that's still 49 for starters. What's normal? Another 10 or so? And you're going to win some of those.
Dunno. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
RNH-Hall-Hemsky
ReplyDeleteBelanger-Smyth-Eberle
Horcoff-Paajarvi-Omark
Lander-Hordichuk-Jones
So Petrell, the PK guy who might kick Smyth loose for PP duties doesn't dress.
Dubnyk starts, defense is the grenade brigade posted earlier in this thread.
Well, i like that DD is starting at the Belanger line should be fun to watch.
Will Renney line match?
Peckham on the right side is worrisome. I'm assuming Renney feels he's a better option there than either Sutton or Barker, which does not bode well. Sheesh, we could've re-hired Vandy for a mill. If leftie Whitney returns, I'm assuming it will still be Teddie on the right side.
ReplyDeleteI think they believe Peckham is a player. That's what I get from it. Given the choice between Barker, Sutton and Smid they give the job to Peckham.
ReplyDeleteInteresting.
I actually like Peckham. But at this point in his career, he's very much a third pairing guy, like every other non-Gilbert defenseman we're dressing.
ReplyDeleteGloomy start for the Flames. Their knowledgeable ones already see Robin Regher's missed bigtime.
ReplyDeletePS: Last chance to see my predictions, only for the West, before Oilers play their 1st game.
Oilers come out flying, on emotional return for the mullet, who playing with Horcoff and hemsky will not manage to score a single point all night.
Did you post your link? Post your damn link and I'll put it on the bog roll.
ReplyDeleteThe good thing about the Eagles is that you don't have to waste an entire day worrying over the score.
ReplyDeleteI like Sutton with Gilbert. Sutton will give an extra split second for Gilbert to retrieve, handle, and move the puck because the other team will have to account for Sutton on the ice.
ReplyDeleteAnd so opens another long and (mostly) fruitless season. Go Oilers. They're not the best, but they're ours.
ReplyDeletePanties is tweeting things again, in case anyone was interested:
ReplyDeleteNo takers yet for Chorney, looks like he might be waived.
Leafs have interest in Hemsky Oilers dont want to move him yet Hemsky has expressed a desire to stay Leafs Offered one of Gags, Omark plus Petry or Pitlick for Schenn.
Oh my. Fussy britches should serve alchohol with those rumors. Some kind of a chaser seems mandatory.
ReplyDeleteA few economic and logistical planets aligned and I sit here in a hotel in Edmonton after more than few hours on a plane yesterday, stoked to see an Oiler home game for the first time. Bro-in-law is more stoked than I and he is a Rangers fan). Don't dissapoint boys, go Oil!
ReplyDelete(oh and fantastic weather here)
Agreed on the first point.
ReplyDeleteFaced 18th toughest situation las year and was just short of league averge. only 18 accomplished. only 21 dmen were in this range.
21! not the whole league. 21!
Weber was not one of them!
MC
ReplyDeleteAn extra 10 games above avg. would be significant. No?
Peckham's season a year ago was weird. Toughest zone start, toughest competition, best SP behind him. I'm not certain what to take from that season aside from survival is a victory too.
ReplyDeleteFaced 18th toughest situation las year and was just short of league averge. only 18 accomplished. only 21 dmen were in this range.
ReplyDeleteHad the worst Corsi on the team other than Strudwick and Chorney. Did have a positive zoneshift, though; there are some nice things there. But he's not a top four defenseman yet.
re Smid: We're playing the Rangers in a hurry so Smid can exact revenge, lol.
ReplyDeleteWow. That was a dumb penalty on the Eagles.
ReplyDeleteMoreau-esque even.
Sorry Lowetide not near my usual Mac, only with gf's pc laptop. And I never use pc's.
ReplyDeleteNon-Macs are weird. All I keep doing is making links to my own blog :)
PS: I'm missing tonight's opener, btw.
Well next time you have a chance, post the link and I'll put it on the blogroll. Or maybe it's already there?
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ReplyDeleteI knew it - Hunter = The Prez.
ReplyDeleteI think maybe baseball commentators take an extra scoop of stupid before a playoff game. Honestly.
ReplyDeleteBob: Your link doesn't work. Great. It's like watching the Philadelphia Eagles. :-)
ReplyDeleteCorrected:
ReplyDeleteHunter's blog is here: hystericaloilersfanclub.blogspot.com
Hunter: If you can still cut/paste with the Mac, you should be able to post links. Look here for info
Okay, it's up under Occidental Oilers Fan.
ReplyDeleteBob, thanks! I take back that Eagles reference. No one deserves that.
Steve:
ReplyDeleteCorsi: increadible concept!
Shot from the point 3%
shot from the side with goalie sliding over 90%
3000% variance in data defined as equal.
of all the theories in my life cannot think of a more flawed data set.
3000% embarrasing.
Ponzie scheme data is more reliable.
Ricki:
ReplyDeleteBlocked shot 800%
Illegal pick 64%
Timeout in the dying minutes 16,784%
Two players pictured on kiss-cam 3.14159%
Scott Oake is gold. Just gold. He cannot do a straight interview. I think he should work on becoming a ventriloquist.
ReplyDeleteThat's the only thing left, he's already mastered discomfort, squirming and saying the absolutely wrong thing at the right time.
I'm hoping someday you'll have an edit button. Until then, feel free to mock those too lazy to proofread before posting.
ReplyDeleteIt's legal to run a book from a blog, right?
ReplyDeleteI'll probably offer the over/under at 4 Oiler goals this season, taking 1/1 bets only, if Oilers win or OTL or score 4 goals or more.
I'd happily bet Oilers are scoring 4 or more tonight.
ReplyDeleteHad the worst Corsi on the team other than Strudwick and Chorney. Did have a positive zoneshift, though; there are some nice things there. But he's not a top four defenseman yet.
ReplyDeleteAgreed.
Which is why all the Schenn chatter is a little disconcerting.
I was all for Schenn until I had a good hard look at his numbers when rickibear posted that he had worse results than Peckman in an easier conference.
The thing about Schenn is that he had the same GA/60 as Peckman with better team mates and easier comp than Teddy.
So if today Schenn RH (22 in Nov, 5 years until UFA) is playing about the same/worse as Peckman LH (24 in Nov, 2 RFA years left, possible to sign longer), then trading anything resembling anyone in the Oilers top 9 for Schenn is ridiculous.
The Oilers need another RH, but a 1RH, not 3RH, got some of those already.
Sure Schenn might get better, but UFA when he's 26, you aren't getting a lot (if any) of his best years.
He certainly isn't worth 3.6MM today, and there is no guarantee he's worth it even 2 years from now.
The Oilers D bubbling under will probably be ready to contribute on a NHL in 5 years, maybe 1 is ready in 4 years.
They need to do something about the D now because what's coming is coming slowly, if they get to the NHL at all.
I don't think that Schenn is a good bet for the cost to get him and the cost of the contract.
I'd prefer a guy who is about 26 years old signed for another 3+ years who has actually performed at a high level in the NHL already.
Burke apparently sent Tambellini an e-mail to let him know none of the Gagner to the Leafs talk came from him.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.calgarysun.com/2011/10/09/nhls-shanahan-taking-heat-for-raising-suspension-bar-too-high
ingoat - what replaces the outgoat
I've posted this before, but improving your GF/GA by 24 isn't a massive improvement.
ReplyDeleteIt's a large improvement, but not massive.
Colorado's improvement from 08-09 (-58) to 09-10 (+11) is massive.
Even for good teams, when increasing goal differential becomes increasingly more difficult, larger improvements have been seen in recent years. I'll reach back to 2008-2009 again and look at the Capitals.
08-09 Caps (+27)
09-10 Caps (+85)
They improved by a whopping 56 goals year over year, both by scoring more and allowing fewer goals.
I'm not arguing the Oilers will improve this much, but I wouldn't put it out of bounds. All rides on Whitney and Dubnyk staying healthy and staying in form, respectively.
Steve:
ReplyDeleteWhile I enjoy your responses.
Using corsi: which is bullshit set of data. unless you define the diffrence (cummulative GA)
Player X gives 1GA valued wotrth of shots in 8 sjhots
Player b gives up 3 Ga valued worth of shots 8 shots.
who do you take cause according to corsi they are the same.
It is HF clown like.
I would take the guy who told me that I should probably allow the data to normalize over more than eight shots. This is assuming I was hiring a scout.
ReplyDeleteSteve:
ReplyDeleteCorsi needs:
1. Cummulative value to its shots
2. be sub set by zone shift
3. be sub set by Quality of Competition
4. By sub set of Quality of team.
So you look for the best group of guys;
1. who face the best last year
2. with the worst teamates
3. with dificult zone shift
4. who yeilded a reasonable or elite Ga.
Peckham!
Wonder how the 21 dmens fake corsi compares.
rickibear: Corsi isn't a complete stat but it does (certainly over a season) give us an indication of which way the river flows.
ReplyDeleteAnd unlike DS' errors or plus minus the numbers are large enough and the bias is removed, giving us a fairer view of the overall picture.
Its like that movie with what's his doodle where they replay a bombing over and over again from different pov; you need all of them to get a complete picture.
Corsi alone isn't everything, but without it we're at the mercy of luck, bias and small sample sizes.
Corsi is good. Not God, but good.
Wow, I just turned the TV on. Did any of you know the Winnipeg Jets were back?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the Habs will trade for Taylor Chorney?
ReplyDeleterickibear - I think that presenting a set of statistics that show Peckham to be one of the best 21 defencemen in the league or one of the best 21 defensive defencemen in the league, is providing evidence that the statistical criteria are flawed, not that Peckham is that good.
ReplyDelete4. who yeilded a reasonable or elite Ga.
ReplyDeleteGA needs:
1. A consideration of save percentage;
2. An awareness that it is a relatively low sample-size statistic, and an appreciation for how larger sample-size surrogates better reflect a player's true ability, even where that player's actual objective is to minimize GA.
Also, Ricki, if I get to drinking tonight, would you care to make a drunken wager of some kind? It's sort of a season opener Lowetide tradition for me, and I haven't seen Magister Rex around today.
ReplyDeleteAn extra 10 games above avg. would be significant. No?
ReplyDeleteI don't think so. You can solve this with math. Assume the average starter is .920 and the average backup is .905. Assume 2200 shots a year (Oilers take less).
If you run the math, I come up with an expected shooting percentage of 8.4% for a team seeing a 59/23 split and one of 8.6% for a team seeing a 49/23 split. Not that much.
OKC's starting pairing is Bryan Helmer with Bryan Lowery. Also in the game are Johan Motin, Kirill Tulupov, Colten Teubert and Alex PLante.
ReplyDeleteGack.
Pitlick, Hamilton and Tyrvainen in their first AHL games. Martindale isn't dressed.
God, i hope the Oilers have a better game tonight than this Jets game.
ReplyDeleteI saw Hawerchuk and co. a few times, stayed at the Viscount Gort (I think that's the name, this was the 80s) and drank wayyyyyy too much.
Still do. Oh well. :-)
OKC down 3-0 early, Barons gave up a PP goal with 3 defensemen on the ice.
ReplyDeleteProbably a new Oilers strategy. I think they should dress a scarecrow.
Oduya is having a nice game.
ReplyDeletePunjabi Oil must know some great dealers.
ReplyDeleteYea the Viscount Gort is downtown not too far from where the old arena was LT. Always thought it was strange to name a hotel after a Field Marshal but whatever eh?
ReplyDeleteDrinking too much does describe most of the three years I lived in Winnipeg. In my defense it was undergrad in a university dorm so it was me and everyone else.
I have to say that the Jets versus the Canadians has been rather underwhelming as far as I'm concerned. While we have very inconsistent players due to their youth in Edmonton, with Camalari out I don't think anyone playing has the pizazz of Hemsky or Hall.
ReplyDelete8.6% for a team seeing a 49/23
ReplyDeleteProbably the result of a shorter season. I'm guessing you meant 49/33.
Goal differential is an amalgam of save percentage and everything else. SP can be jump charged at the speed of a Roloson airlift (about 4 weeks to jibe in the new environment).
Everything else is the domain of father time.
The point is that GD is a conflated statistic between a quick and a dotage. The truculent portion of our present GD legacy is only about half as large as it appears in the side view mirror.
Maybe last season there wasn't any PK system that would have lead to rave reviews. What then? Do you lay the ground work for the future, or mitigate a nickle of suck?
When I've been in the middle of dysfunction, I've discovered you can't really fix the muddle you already have. But you can do something about the muddle that will surely follow with a little bit of foresight, if you're not voted off the island in the meantime for bailing with one hand.
Even if the coaches abandon or modify the diamond this season, that still doesn't make it necessarily wrong to have invested a year in breaking old habits.
This is why change consultants exist. The corporation fails to go from A to B. Consultant insists on idiotic intermediate stage C. Corporation succeeds in going from A to C to B. Weird, isn't it?
Company: But but but ... you made us waste a whole year on stupid phase C.
Consultant: And your expectation for that year before I showed up? (Hint: I'm in the phone book under DFL.)
True dysfunction: When failure is no longer a useful signal.
Change consultants are loved about as much as lawyers. But they get called regardless after a company goes in circles for a few years trying to manage away from failure long after failure bears any direct relationship to corrective response.
From the outside, these things are hard to judge. You're pretty much stuck setting the bozo timer and conducting ritual sacrifice until you finally start winning again. Everyone loves a winner. When that magic day finally arrives, everyone notes the current colour of their jockey shorts, and a fashion is born.
We're all about due for a change of skivvies.
@ DeadmanWalking
ReplyDeleteYou ever think about setting up an Oil blog of your own? I'd wager lack of content wouldn't be an issue. You certainly have a way with words.
If Schenn isn't good because of Corsi then it just goes to show how useless Corsi stats are.
ReplyDeleteWhen you guys reference Corsi to slag Schenn I picture those nerds that Homer went to college with and they going over their calculations to determine when is the exact right time to ask a girl on a date. 1:33 or 1:36?
Back to the drawing board.
Tratkor; What?
ReplyDeleteThe Nuge's nickname should be "Ted".
ReplyDeleteGoddamn nerds with their six figure salaries and fake breasted wives.
ReplyDeleteOk, typically have Centre Ice but waited till Thanksgiving Sunday to order and Eastlink is closed. Where can i watch a grainy feed online?
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ReplyDeleteI'm hoping the free preview on Centre Ice works in Toronto.
ReplyDeleteIs that free preview on TV or the net?
ReplyDeleteKnighttown: http://atdhenet.tv/40069/watch-pittsburgh-vs-edmonton
ReplyDeleteTV. I have Bell Fibe in Toronto.
ReplyDeleteSince the Leafs are not playing, it shouldn't be blacked out here, or least that is what I am hoping.
Bar Qu: I know it's been a while you commented Brent Johnson but:
ReplyDeleteLast year he was actually better than Fleury, and the year before too.
Fleury is probably the most uselessly overpaid player in the league. He's only beaten his backup in SV$ 1 year, and it was the lowly Danny Sabourin.
Why couldn't we get Stuart(WPG)? He's exactly what we needed. He was very available last year. I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteSmyth is forgiven for that nasty contract holdout and trade he forced. (runs.....)
ReplyDeleteWhen they introduced the Oilers, and Taylor Hall came out first, did they say "Taylor Hall's Edmonton Oilers"? Thought I heard that.
ReplyDeleteNo, it was "Taylor Hall" and then a pause followed by "and the rest of his Edmonton Oilers."
ReplyDeleteIt's nice they gave him a supporting cast.
ReplyDeletePenguins feed:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.freedocast.com/y4t6u5u
Oil feed:
http://www.seeon.tv/view/20602/NHL_tonight_%40_9.00PM
The Penguins feed is behind.
So amny sports on. Baseball playoffs. Rematch if NFC playoff game. And of course the opener...
ReplyDeleteGo Oilers!
PK's working well.
ReplyDeleteSame old Oilers
ReplyDeleteDumb penalty, lost faceoff, PP goal against...
Is that two or three defensive zone giveaways by Belanger so far? Ugh.
ReplyDeleteJonK
ReplyDeletedon't forget the one he gave away in the offensive zone...
Nice graphics from Sportsnet. I guess the population is aging. Is the game sponsored by Cream of Wheat?
ReplyDeleteRNH drew a penalty there and then a nice pass. Hall seems to have some jump tonight, Smyth took a turn at C on the PP with Omark and MP.
ReplyDeleteThis is a game where we might expect Pittsburg to lead early but then flag later as fatigue sets in. The Oilers haven't had any regular season lead-in and haven't played in a week. Hopefully we can attribute some of the play so far to rust. Dubnyk would probably like that goal back.
ReplyDeleteB 52's! It's a great day.
ReplyDeleteIf Laddy shot a gun his face would explode.
ReplyDeleteNice work in the corner by Lander.
ReplyDeleteLT: I was genuinely concerned as I saw Smid turn into the boards there. 50/50 he breaks his nose or gets concussed? We may have just dodged a bullet.
ReplyDeleteOilers have been badly outplayed at evens by my eye, but thw two rookies (RNH and Lander) drew penalties.
ReplyDeleteDubnyk let in a softie and Barker has been sniffing gonch so far.
What else? Oh yeah. Smid. Whew.
Man Pittsburgh is playing a poor game discipline wise. If the Oilers had any PP at all they'd be tied.
ReplyDeleteplease, not a 5 on 3.
ReplyDeleteI see the PP coach has given them the ol' "throw the puck in the zone and hope" scheme for gaining puck possesion in the Ozone on the PP.
ReplyDeleteI can't really complain about the PP, lots of activity and sooner or later they'll finish. I guess maybe I'd like Hall-Eberle together but beyond that I don't know.
ReplyDeleteI know why they want Smyth on the PP (me too) but he's so valuable on the PK.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like the Oilers are indeed settling in.
ReplyDelete13-9 shots for the Oil, I'd bet the even totals are heavily the other way.
ReplyDeleteLots to like up front, I thought Dubnyk made a couple of nice saves after the wobbly goal.
I noticed Barker going walkabout quite a bit in that period, but the C's were quite good. Horcoff had anice period imo.
The bit about Smyth waiting for the chance to wear the retro helmet was great. What a horrible day that was. Wanted to enjoy the Messier retirement but I was just so sad/mad.
ReplyDeleteThe PP is seriously generating more chances than we've seen in ages. Gotta go in eventually, right?
"eramode" - as in we're going back in time?
Hemsky seems to have something going with RNH. But perhaps everyone does.
ReplyDeleteSeems a lot of people are making a big deal about RNH being 13% on the dot tonight. That's no surprise.
ReplyDeleteRight? I mean, right?
I sure hope Smyth learned his lesson.
ReplyDeleteGodot - watching it on free Centre Ice in Toronto
ReplyDeleteUnknown - it is Ted
PP looked terrific, lots of movement, everything but a goal.
Oilers look better than Flames did last night.
Hey LT,
ReplyDeleteJust to bring up the Hall's team thing again. What was your comment regarding Hall and PP minutes. Just wondering if you noticed Smyth, Omark & Eberly started the first PP and were first on the ice on the 5 on 3.
A second observation would be I sure with Hall could finish; Hopkins set him up, how many times in the first???
Peckham is awful
ReplyDeletecc: Seriously? You're going to argue that this isn't Hall's team after one period?
ReplyDeleteOiler break out just putrid. From both D and F.
ReplyDeletePeckham and Sutton first pass to Pens more than once each.
Looooong season of watching break out futility ahead.
I'll take that as an NO!
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know a quick reference to find which goalie started against which teams over a season?
ReplyDeleteWoodguyL hockey-reference has a drop down for each player on their page.
ReplyDeleteJust wondering if you noticed Smyth, Omark & Eberly started the first PP and were first on the ice on the 5 on 3.
ReplyDelete4,93,83 were on the ice when the 1st penalty was called, then again when 2nd was called.
Just the way it happened, don't read anything into it.
I miss Vishnovsky.
ReplyDeleteBelanger hasn't exactly been killing it in the dot...esp. in the defensive zone
ReplyDeleteI miss NHL calibre defense.
ReplyDeleteThey should play King of Pain when Laddy's on the ice.
ReplyDeleteGotta love Smyth on the PK. Wins the draw, makes two clears, one diving.
ReplyDeleteNice to see the Oilers finishing some checks. Not destroying anyone, but putting them into the boards when they can.. not just circling away.
ReplyDeleteYounger guys too like Eberle and RNH.
Oilers really have to get back to work in the third. All the penalties have killed this game.
ReplyDeleteBoring.
Gernat with 2A's tonight. Man.
Yeah, by my eye (had a few), it looks like the Oilers are getting worked on the dot--except... ryan smyth, lol.
ReplyDeletePoor Nuge is making Cogliano look like malhotra on the dot.
WOW, awful call.
ReplyDeleteBrutal call on Jones.
ReplyDeleteMan Ryan Smyth is gold on the PK. Lordy.
ReplyDeleteWho is RNH taking his draws against? I'm reluctant to draw any conclusions of his face off ability in his first NHL game against a fairly skilled team.
ReplyDeleteAccording to twitter Belanger, Smyth and Lander were all at 67% a little earlier in the game.
Well, there's the make up call
ReplyDeleteKing of pain!
ReplyDelete@ Lowetide
ReplyDeleteAt this rate, Smid will be completely broken by the time he reaches 30.
They were 50 percent on draw in first and that included Ted at 1 and 7.
ReplyDeleteBelanger and Smyth were 4 and 2, I presume Horcoff was in the black too.
Too many penalties. PK has been reasonable though. Lots of options up front.
Maybe Smid doesn't wear shoulder pads.. it would explain a lot¡
ReplyDeleteMan Ryan Smyth is gold on the PK. Lordy.
ReplyDeleteYeah, our pk doesn't look like last season's.... Smyth's a demon on the pk.
I'd have to check the TOI, but it looks like a fair amount going to the old me.
Jay: Hall and Smyth are about equal PP and #4 has played 8:24 at evens to #94's 6:45.
ReplyDeleteBut where Smyth has really shone is PK: 2:12 and several nifty plays. I wish they'd ride him a little more on the PK.
Thanks L.T
ReplyDeleteMy son is only 21 months old and he is completely unaware of his surroundings at all times and he has the attention span of a fruit fly. With all this being said, I'm positive that he started laughing during the first intermission when Rob Brown and his atrocious hair plugs made an appearance.cin
ReplyDeleteThey have to make a move for someone that can make a breakout pass.
ReplyDeleteIf they don't it's a bottom five finish for sure
Smyth is a beauty.
ReplyDeleteKert: It's not such an easy thing, you know, to start your own blog.
ReplyDeleteA month or two ago, I pounded my way through a 900 page biography of Abraham Lincoln. An amazing background detail was the political culture: everyone would gather to stand around listening to political debate, stump speeches, that could run for three to six hours. Europeans visiting America at the time were shocked to find that every citizen was discussing politics almost every day. You just don't do that in the land of right thinking monarchs. Politicians of the day were men like Lincoln who could stand up and extemporize day after day for three hours at a stretch; men who could sound fresh and inventive and carry the audience while rehasing much of the same old mojo.
Obviously political culture in America has taken a few wrong turns since then. I live in a town on the left coast where we got a bit of head start on the microbrew revival, and now we have a great microbrew scene. I saw the national statistics on that in the paper a couple of weeks ago. The apogee of macrobrew corresponds to the apogee of boys on the bus (circa 1984). Molson and Labatt's had ninety percent of the domestic market selling bottles of something that did not approximate flavour.
When the internet showed up, one of the grand promises was a return to microbrew intellectual culture. Interesting people, brewing interesting flavours. People underestimated, however, just how hard it is to become the stump speech proprietor, to lift up a tent pole and welcome the greater (unwashed) discussion.
That's what we have here, with Lowetide. It takes unbelievable dedication to post day, after day, rain or shine or monsoon or biblical deluge.
I tend to think of myself as a bottle of peach bitters--a product which almost disappeared from the mixology scene during the ascendancy of highball monoculture. People look at my kitchen knives and mistake me for a semi-professional chef. Uh, no. I just can't stand knives that suck. I have strong analytic skills, but underneath that I'm a lateral thinking gadfly. I could never do what Lowetide does: convene a discussion where people wish to return.
I have another dark confession on top of that: DSF is my twin brother. We were separated at birth. We've both become students of cognitive bias. It's like the Kaufman brothers in Adaptation. Donald exults in his genius, while Charlie slinks around in jaded obscurity. Donald writes trashy screen plays, and gets invited to wild parties. In one phone call between the brothers (both played by Nicolas Cage), Donald calls from some exotic location while Charlie is cooped up with his failed opus; you see Charlie seething on his side of the dialog "You played spin the bottle with Catherine Keener!?" His head nearly explodes. DSF is an artist of his life and times. As a student of cognitive bias, he makes my head explode, like Charlie and Donald. Charlie depends on Donald, but he's too proud to admit this.
(Stop to reload film canister.)
Ales Hemsky is a bad, bad man.
ReplyDeleteI sort of forgot about how ridiculous Hemsky can be with the puck.
ReplyDeleteSmytty in his kitchen...
feels like the old days.
(Resume after reloading film canister.)
ReplyDeleteSchubert was among the most productive composers who ever lived. Died young from too much poozle--or the wrong kind, at least. Paraphrasing the bathroom wall of all knowledge: 600 Lieder, nine symphonies, liturgical music, operas, some incidental music, and a large body of chamber and solo piano music; dead at 31. I'm sure Charlie reads about Franz when he particularly needs to hate himself.
Schubert attributed the secret of his success to his little coffee grinder. Every morning, he would rush to grind his first cup of Joe, his little grinder would squeak out a tune (to the ear of all hearing), and off he would go madly rending the squeaky melody into an opera or symphony. Some people have it, some don't.
LT has more than its fair share of sensible seasonings (credit Lowetide), but it also has random dashes of nutmeg, clove, and allspice; we all know who they are.
I'm more in the peach bitters or Danish Blue cheese quadrant. I'm not a sensible seasoning, but sometimes I can wake up the palate. The dynamics of having my own blog would be totally different.
Lowetide is one great fruits that the internet originally promised, but didn't so much deliver. I'm honoured to stand on the sidelines in the floppy checkered hat spinning circus tricks with my clever words. Don't know if anyone pays attention. The jester never does. I do so much in my life where I'm not the jester, I'm in no rush to relinquish my ring-side seat.
Is RNH what we've been waiting for for Hemsky?
ReplyDelete"mythes"
@ T
ReplyDeleteThey do seem to be clicking tonight. 2 elite thinkers of the game feeding off each other
What a snoozer.
ReplyDeleteSo what exactly is so good about Barker's game? Haven't seen much to explain his salary other than a hard shot from the point.
ReplyDeleteI am nervous thinking about a season of Barker.
ReplyDeleteHemsky was/is one of the most skilled players in the league. But he's not, by any stretch, an elite thinker. The guy can find lanes and thread passes, and sick 1 on 1 skills, but where RNH excites me, is the decisive nature of his skill. Hemskys genius is displayed by keeping the puck on his stick. RNH displays his by how quick it leaves his stick.
ReplyDeleteRNH has the game figured out before the puck reaches him. Hemmer is someone that can make people look stupid, but not because he's smarter than everyone else.
Eberle is the only guy that can hold a candle to what I've seen from RNH, and that's a dim dim candle.
Tom Gilbert knows how to play the hockey.
ReplyDeleteRHN!
ReplyDeleteTHE MOTOR CITY MADMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteow ow ow!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWelcome the the NHL, kid.
ReplyDeleteThe KID!!
ReplyDeletegreat work on the whole play!
HE'S ON PACE FOR 82 GOALS!!!
ReplyDeleteWOOT!!
Send him back. Now, before the end of the game. Put him on the Greyhound.
ReplyDeleteGood timing. Thanks for backing me up here RNH.
ReplyDeleteOn a side note, from the ATB commercial, that was Foster that made that bank shot pass to Eberle last season opener right?
I literally turn on the game with 5:20 or so left, then Hall/Hemsky/RNH 1st goal!
ReplyDeleteI'd better stick around lol
Wow. smyth shows some great leadership...
ReplyDeleteputs the team behind the eight ball
Vandermeer by my memory.
ReplyDeleteThat was a BS call on SMyth
ReplyDeleteVandermeer by my memory.
ReplyDeleteSeconded.
That was at most a 2 min penalty.
ReplyDeletewell there's no way that's a 5 and a game.
ReplyDeleteHavent seen much of Lander.
ReplyDeleteMust be all the special teams stuff.
Lander's been in on many penalty kills. He's done pretty well.
ReplyDeletePK the story tonite. You know, after The Nuge.
ReplyDeleteHall eats up a lot of ice on one or two strides.
ReplyDeleteWhat a storybook finish for RNH that would have been. Petry omigod what?
ReplyDeleteGotta go with:
ReplyDelete1) Omark
2) Eberle
3) RNH
You know what, Ladi Smid had a helluva game by my eye, playing the right side.
ReplyDeleteShoot out.. thank god Gagner is injured¡
ReplyDeleteI might be in love with Jordan Eberle.
ReplyDeleteI think Dubnyk is a significant part of the story tonight as well. Probably wants that one goal back but had a pretty solid game otherwise.
ReplyDeleteWhat a win by Dubnyk. Does this qualify as a steal?
ReplyDeletePlease Baby Jesus, let's not have the opening night victory be the high point of the season.
ReplyDeleteGreat game. Like the new centermen a lot.
DD makes very good case to start next game.
ReplyDeleteGood for them!
THE OILERS ARE ON PACE FOR 164 POINTS!! AND ONLY 82 GOALS AGAINST!!
That first Pens goal is one that just happens. Dubnyk was in position, but the puck found a tiny crease between his wrist and his hip and trickled through.
ReplyDeleteBad goal in the sense of how did that get through, but not something we can really hang on Duby there.