PTO's were announced for Tanner House, Taylor Fedun, Brandon Davidson, Martin Marincin and Hunter Tremblay over the last two weeks. Mark Arcobello signed a contract with the Oilers late last week, making a tremendous move up the organizational depth chart in one season. The club also signed graduating junior Olivier Roy to an entry level contract.
Here's the 11-12 roster with the latest additions:
- GOALER: Bryan Pitton (RFA 2011); Olivier Roy (RFA 2014)
- DEFENSE: Kevin Montgomery (RFA 2011); Jordan Bendfeld (RFA 2011); Alex Plante (RFA 2012); Johan Motin (RFA 2012); Colten Teubert (RFA 2013); Taylor Fedun (RFA 2013).
- CENTER: Chris Vande Velde (RFA 2012); Milan Kytner (RFA 2012); Tanner House (RFA 2013).
- LEFT WING: Matt Marquardt (RFA 2011); Hunter Tremblay (RFA 2012); Teemu Hartikainen (RFA 2013); Philippe Cornet (RFA 2013).
- RIGHT WING: Zack Stortini (RFA 2011); Toni Rajala (RFA 2013); Mark Arcobelli (RFA 2013).
Possible additions might include Anton Lander, Curtis Hamilton, Ryan Martindale, Tyler Pitlick and others. I haven't included players like Taylor Chorney on the AHL roster although they could certainly be in play (I believe Chorney would have to clear waivers in order to be sent out from this fall's training camp).
Last season the Oilers spent good coin on minor league veterans like Giroux, Moran, Gerber and Petiot and the OKC Barons had men like Colin McDonald and Jake Taylor in their employ. It looks like the club will need the same number of veterans a year from now to make a go of it in the AHL.
This season has been a success for the minor league system. The Oilers recalled prospects Linus Omark, Jeff Petry, Taylor Chorney, Teemu Hartikainen and Chris Vande Velde along with veterans like Liam Reddox, Alex Giroux, Martin Gerber and Richard Petiot (among others).
At the end of the day, strengthening the minor league system was a good first step to returning the parent team back to some degree of respectability.
ReplyDeleteI can't see Stortini being on that team next year - are the Oilers going to qualify his one-way deal to play him in Oklahoma?
ReplyDelete(I'm not up on the intricacies of the CBA, but I'm pretty sure you can't qualify a one-way deal with a two-way deal.)
(Also, this has nothing to do with anything, but one of my law profs with no familiarity with pro-sports asked us why those agreements are called "collective bargaining agreements", when in any other context an agreement struck through a collective bargaining process is just called a "collective agreement". Anyone know?)
Good Lord willin'
ReplyDeleteAt least one of Brule, Foster or Fraser will be OKC next season.
Two or all three would be better.
They have to sign some goal tending.
JDD would be fine for one spot.
agoofsa - says it all for Oiler fans
In regard to Stortini, he'd be nuts to sign with the Oilers. Edmonton's head coach made a decision to keep Reddox and flush Stortini, a decision the two previous coaches solved going the other way.
ReplyDeleteStortini should be able to catch on with another team on a 2-way deal ala Pouliot. He's not going anywhere with the Oilers.
Maybe Roy will back up Khabibaron?
ReplyDeleteSteve, I am not a labour lawyer (I am only corporate), but isn't a collective bargaining agreement the end result of the process of collective bargaining whereas the collective agreement is the actual document upon which the end result is memorialized?
ReplyDeleteActually, "collective bargaining agreement" has more than twice the Google hits of "collective agreement", so it appears that my prof and I may be out to lunch.
ReplyDeleteIts interesting reading the posts on this board compared to the posts at tsn.ca for example. Lawyers and otherwise intelligent posters. At tsn.ca it seems like 14 year olds (and not smart 14 year olds) and various other morons.
ReplyDeleteI always read but rarely post. Unless there is some special request for thermodynamic phase equilibria or distillation expertise... Legal expertise is a bit more useful in CBA's, I think.
Keep up the thoughtful and interesting posts, guys.
Frelbo,
ReplyDeleteDistallation experience is looked upon well by most here, especially BD and Hbomb.
There are an inordinate amount of lawyers posting here.
ReplyDeleteD, mc79 and Marc are for sure.
Steve Smith is in law school and I start next year.
Anyone else?
Schitzo, Ducey, jon k.
ReplyDeleteWhat school are you going to?
@steve smith,
ReplyDeleteBlame the prof for misleading you ... ;o) ... lol
Re the CBA: It's the actual title of the document, "The Collective Bargaining Agreement Between....etc.
ReplyDeleteI can also confirm that in the usual employer/union context, at least in Alberta, they are called "collective agreements". Who knows why they (Daly et al) added "Bargaining". Perhaps simply because CBA sounds better than CA, which could be confusing.
What does the NFL call theirs?
UBC!
ReplyDeleteNFL's CBA too. NBA and MLB too.
ReplyDeleteMaybe "Collective Agreement" is just dominant in a few jurisdictions, apparently including Alberta and New Brunswick?
Grant, I feel like I should have some turds of wisdom to bestow, but all I can come up with is "Don't transfer to UNB and take A.C.'s [initials used to as not to tempt Google] seminar on Exploring Procedural Justice."
ReplyDelete(That advice is meant to be taken all together, incidentally - transferring to UNB without taking the procedural justice seminar would be just fine.)
Wow, that's a lot of lawyers. It's a bad day in my world when the room is filled with lawyers. Thankfully that doesn't extend to Lowetide's place, although it does explain why the debates can be somewhat belaboured.* Perhaps we need a judge too...to intervene in some of the heated debates that go tangential with a "where are you going with this councillor?" or for anything mentioned, at all, about Horcoff the judge could say "haven't we already covered this ground councillor?"
ReplyDelete*I am not immune.
I am surprised there hasn't been more commentary about Marincin signing a PTO.
ReplyDeleteIf he plays for OKC and they make the playoffs, and he plays more than 9 games, does that count as a year on his ELC? Or not because they are playoffs?
Has this Fedun guy played yet for the Barons?
Oilersfan: Not if he stays in the AHL.
ReplyDeleteRemember Eberle did the same last year.
Fedun spent some time with the team, although he didn't get into action in a game.
ReplyDeleteHe is back to school using that big brain of his now.
warimimu. Something a person with a moutful of banana says when he's warning you.
I always read but rarely post. Unless there is some special request for thermodynamic phase equilibria or distillation expertise
ReplyDeleteFrankly, I am quite at a loss to understand the nuances of thermodynamic phase equilibria, but it seems fairly interesting and possibly a great tangent to explore with my students during social studies class (as opposed to the nuances of local and provincial government). Feel free to provide insight as much as possible.
unahc - gesundheit
So LT, you think the Oilers will walk away from Stortini? Any other RFA's they let go? Any UFA's they re-sign?
ReplyDeleteBarQu,
ReplyDeleteI'll put some thought into some clever analagies to relate eqilibrium and distillation to provincial government. I feel some good chemical engineering humour coming on... if there is such a thing.
With some calculations and another glass of wine I might even be able to explain the JF Jacques or Khabiboulin roster spots.
I'll put some thought into some clever analagies to relate eqilibrium and distillation to provincial government.
ReplyDeleteDear heavens, no! I simply look for alternative educational opportunities than what is mandated by government-designed curriculum.
But if there are great chemical engineer suggestions on how I can mix household products for "lively" (read: nonlethal)reactions, then we're on to something. Again, all in the name of teaching social studies more effectively.
On the rare occasions that collective agreements come up at work, I get weird looks from people because I call them collective bargaining agreements. Then I start saying things like "You can't do that - he doesn't have UFA rights."
ReplyDeleteStupid hockey.
What little I can remember from thermodynamics is that in a closed system (e.g., the Oilers), randomness / disorder will never decrease. You can reduce the disorder in one area (e.g., bring in a good player to fill one position), but other disorder will pop up somewhere (*sigh).
ReplyDeleteI hated thermodynamics class, and watching the oilers under the current management hasn't been the most fun either.
I have a "turd of wisdom" (to use Steve Smith's terminology) to bestow upon Grant.
ReplyDeleteI am 95% sure that, back when I was applying for articling positions, I didn't get an offer from one of the law firms I interviewed with because I started arguing with one of the partners about Shawn Horcoff's cap hit.
So, Grant, my advice to you is: When someone who has the power to hire you says that Shawn Horcoff is a bum whose $7 million cap hit is crippling the team, just smile and nod.
I am actually taking labour right now and my prof even mentioned the CBA thing once but I was playing tetris.
ReplyDeleteSince now I'll never sleep until I know the answer I'm e-mailing him right now.
Frelbo I can explain Jacques & Khabibulin in one simple word, entropy.
ReplyDeleteWhere's the software development love here at? I know BDHS does something IT related but that's about it I think.
uni - yeah I'm just a management type, a nerd herder as it were. My background is English lit. The only reason I have this career is because my girlfriend's uncle owned a company and thought I had a potential.
ReplyDeleteSlept my way to the top as it were. Or to the upper middle anyhow.
That must be awkward at company barbecues when the ex, her uncle, and you and your wife find yourselves standing next to each other.
ReplyDeleteThat's an odd concept for me, getting something for sleeping with a girl. The ex I almost married hates my guts with a passion now. Oddly her father really likes me, it's a strange thing.
As an aside, that explains your literary aspirations. If you ever want to overpay a a good dev let me know...I can also be mediocre as well as the job requires.
hangican: what the pope thinks you should do with Anglicans?
naw the ex isn't involved in any way with the co. so it works out ok that way
ReplyDeleteI was lucky but once I got me foot in the door it was up to me. Worked out pretty well.
So Noodles is a lawyer too, and Tiger Under Glass is a law student? This is getting creepy.
ReplyDeleteUni, the software development love is right here. I'm a little surprised how few of us there are around here. You'd think it would be a profession that involves a lot of screwing around on the internet.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you are actually looking for a job and happen to live in Vancouver, my company is hiring and I could use another Oilers fan in the office.
You're surprised that there aren't more software developers in a forum where complete sentences are the norm? Alrighty, then.
ReplyDeleteSS, you're confusing teenagers (FPB and his ilk excluded of course) and Facebookers and Twitterheads with IT professionals.
ReplyDeleteThe vast majority, including every single one I've worked with, of devs out there write in complete sentences and have a good grasp of the English language. That includes the Indian ones, who sometimes sadly tend to have a better grasp on Grammar than most native Canadians.
This extends to sys, db, web admins as well. I don't know about those networking guys though, they're all screwy.
MattM, I'm out in Toronto myself. Have a gig currently but I'm becoming increasingly disenfranchised doing long bouts of client escalation support for months on end, and being asked to work overtime with no overtime pay. I'd love to work out in VanCity, a buddy of mines that works out there says Vancouver is awesome, and he loves everything about it, except for all the Vancouverites =).
terefor: how the average twitterhead will spell therefore when asked
I was just taking a cheap shot - feel free to reciprocate by calling me an ambulance chaser, despite my being far, far too lazy to pursue even a parked one.
ReplyDeleteThat said, though I'm sure none of you would have guessed it from your interactions with me here, I'm a bit of a nerd (not in the tech sense). A lot of the folks I spent my teenage years with have grown up to be computer-types (mostly software developers, by my limited understanding), and their grammar is, on average, worse than those who went into liberal arts and business and the like. As I understand it, anecdotal evidence is conclusive, so take that.
Hmm...maybe they all just can't compete with your elevated standards? You do seem to be somewhat of a friend of minutiae.
ReplyDeleteIf you're into UK comedy take a look at The IT Crowd. I believe that's how many may view the IT industry.
In case you still care, this was the answer I got from my Labour prof this morning.
ReplyDelete"It depends on the applicable legislation. Some define it as a CA (eg AB) and others as a CBA (Eg BC)"
I qualify as one of the screwy Networking types.Telecomm primarily,but with VOIP taking over the IT industry we're all Networking types now.And screwy.
ReplyDeletejon k, mc79, Marc, Noodles, Schitzo, D, Ducey are lawyers.
ReplyDeleteSteve Smith, TigerUnderGlass, and Grant law students.
That kind of explains a lot about this place.
@Noodles - Thanks for the turd, that's precisely the type of foot in mouth disorder I have.
Steve Smith: Oddly, when I am called upon to proof our documentation for technical details, I spend more time correcting spelling and grammar than actual content. In my experience, the executives have the worst spelling. Possibly just because they don't bother proofreading anything they send me.
ReplyDeleteUni: Vancouver is great. I moved out here for school in 2002 and promptly decided I was never moving back to Alberta. It was probably wearing shorts in February that sold me. Occassionally you find yourself thinking that -20 and sunny is better than 35 straight days of rain, but overall I love it here.
If you are trying to get away from client escalations, this might not be the best change. Spreading stuff like that out is why we need more people. No time to actually build anything new right now. What kind of stuff do you do in Toronto?
I'm another IT dude. That's my title (in my office emails at least) "IT dude". Since I do mostly programming, database work, and some IT help (if the real IT help dude isn't available.)
ReplyDeleteML-my title on the internal phone list is "Telecomm Admin/Senior cable jiggler"
ReplyDeleteI'm a west coaster as well(Squamish)golf in February and yeah it rains alot,but I tell the flatlanders you don't have to shovel rain off your driveway.
Gerta, we have a guy here who's internal signature says "Networking Guru". I like senior cable jiggler better though.
ReplyDeleteMattM, I don't mind manning tier 2 in turn, what I take exception to is the marathon coverage I get saddled with way too often. We're short staffed right now and I'm into week 12 of support. I started fantasizing about smashing my head into the microwave at work while heating my soup the other day.
I do mostly .Net web app dev with SQL behind. Spent a large amount of time doing reports to the point where I'm the reporting guy as well. I've never formally been given a title, so when people ask I just refer to myself as a Code Monkey.
Uni: That's cool, we do C# application development. SQL skills a plus.
ReplyDeleteThe tier 2 stuff is a pain in the ass. Fortunately for me, our support staff is finally getting close to being staffed up, so that end is dying down. Pretty busy with legitimate tier 3 stuff for some new supported configurations and features right now, but as a dev I always feel like that's kinda my own fault.