- LW Taylor Hall 17-29-46. His father was a CFL receiver and just like Dad the kid drives to the high traffic areas. This is a good number by Desjardins standards, in the same range as Stamkos a couple of years ago and Tavares last year. Franchise player.
- C Tyler Seguin 19-22-41. I liked the words passed on by his junior coach, who said he knew Seguin had the skill but was amazed by his heart and effort. Franchise player. He'll likely be #1 on my final list, as Redline says he's a "smarter, better player (than Hall). He's got the two-way game and is a tremendous overall skill who thinks the game as well as he plays it." We know rhe Oilers value kids who test well on the IQ tests and this fellow has that going for him too.
- C Mikael Granlund 13-28-41. Small and very skilled forward. Lacks top end speed but can make wonderful plays with the puck. He does a lot of damage on the PP and should go right after all the sure thing selections are gone, and may go ahead of Connolly (injury) and Tarasenko (Russian) and could land in the top 10 overall. He'll be good value.
- R Vladimir Tarasenko 21-18-39. Just completed his second KHL season and has a quick release on a lethal shot. His father is his KHL coach and has stated Vladimir should stay in Russia for awhile, which may impact his draft number (along with all the usual worries about Russians crossing the pond).
- R Jeff Skinner 19-16-35. He's a very good scorer in an excellent leage (OHL) and according to scouting reports a hard working winger. ISS has him mid-1st round and Central Scouting has been smoking the drapes in terms of his draft number unless the know something no one has published.
- C Jordan Weal 12-23-35. An undersized skill C (5.10, 162) who has had to battle through 2 seasons in the rugged WHL. The Canadian junior leagues provide NHL teams with about a half-dozen such players every year (small kids with a death wish and ridiculous puck skills) but Weal really can play the game.
- C Jaden Schwartz 12-19-31. USHL kids are hard to project (Gabe has done some excellent work here) because the league doesn't have a decade worth of players making the transition. This number might be a little off (although that league is attracting better kids every year) but it is the best we have right now. Described as a deceptive and shifty center who is always around the puck. Good balance and difficult to remove from the puck. Determined, competitive.
- C Tyler Toffoli 14-16-30. Average size but a very skilled center. He can score and make beauty passes and his offensive game is most of what he'll bring to the pro level.
- R Brett Connolly 15-14-29. In 2008-09 he became the first 16-year old to score 30 goals in the WHL since Partrick Marleau almost 15 years ago. The scouting reports rave about his overall ability but that injury resume is a concern and will cost him on draft day.
- L Kirill Kabanov 11-15-26. Explosive skater with a tremendous release and has been compared to Kovalchuk in terms of style. 6.02, 173 which we used to call "lanky" and the big item here is that the kid left his junior team and went home to Russia under unusual circumstances. That added to the Russian worry will flush his draft number but he has some skill according to Desjardins.
- L Austin Watson 10-16-26. He could be a draft gem. His scouting report mentions two-way play and forechecking ability, and that added to good offensive ability should mean he can help a team win. He'll have a good number on my final top 30 because of his range of skills.
- C Alexander Burmistrov 9-17-26. Another Russian with pure skills, he's fast and brilliant off the rush and fans love his style of play. 5.11, 157 and he plays an aggressive style so injuries are probably going to be a worry when he turns pro.
- C Quinton Howden 11-14-25. Size, skill and speed from the center position means he's going to have a good draft day. Scouting report suggest he has a wide range of skills and at 6.02, 182 he could end up being that big C in the middle for an NHL team someday.
- R Beau Bennett 8-17-25. An Amercian kid in the BCJHL with outstanding offensive instincts. He is an excellent shooter (although there are questions about the quality of goaltending in that league compared to the CHL or college) and more of a pure offensive winger than some of the kids ranked a little lower on this list.
- D Cam Fowler 4-21-25. Central scouting compares him to Tomas Kaberle and that's a helluva player. His NHLE is a little shy of Doughty's at the same age (and he is not the complete talent the LAK defender has turned out to be) and the scouts say he has a little chaos in his game.
- C Ryan Johansen 9-15-24. There's a post-season buzz about this player and I suspect he'll surprise casual draft observers when he's taken. He's a center with size and scouts say he can play in any situation, so someone is going to grab him. Johansen is a late bloomer (draft wise) which some of us view as a positive.
- R Nino Niederreiter 14-9-23. Maybe the best PF in this year's draft, he certainly has size, skill and drives to the net. Among the most famous prospects in this year's draft because of the WJC performance for the Swiss.
- R Emerson Etem 13-9-22. A good skater with size who handles the puck well at full speed. This was his first WHL season so we need to take that into consideration when evaluating him. He's listed as 6-feet but he doesn't look that big when he's on the ice.
- C Nick Bjugstadt 11-11-22. He's getting a lot of hype and is among a fairly large group of power forwards at the top of the draft this season. He's 6.04, 188 so one of those eastern teams will take him early.
- L John McFarland 8-11-19. Skill winger with excellent speed (he's one of the fastest players in the OHL). Has some grit to his game and his coach says McFarland has been working hard on his checking game. Junior coaches lie in draft years, but it is an interesting comment.
- C Evgeny Kuznetsov 4-14-18. Another slick, fleet Russian with terrific skills. This young man goes into high traffic areas and makes plays. Scouting report says he never stops skating, and his NHLE number might be hurt by minutes played in the KHL.
- C Charlie Coyle 6-12-18. A complete player. Size, skill, grit, soft hands around the net and I've read in several places that he can take and make a pass (which is a big deal even though no one ever talks about it).
- D Brandon Gormley 4-14-18. Likely the most complete defenseman available in this draft, I've read a few scouting reports that rave about his ability to play defense. He's also a quality puck mover and handles the puck well. Might be the first D taken.
- C Tyler Pitlick 9-8-17. Big kid who wins faceoffs already at the college level. His offense isn't grand but those NCAA schools ration playing time based on years of service. Interesting player, we'll need to follow what they're writing about him this spring.
- C Riley Sheahan 5-10-15. A defensive specialist at the center position doesn't ordinarily get a top 30 ranking (they actually don't often exist at age 17, good defensive forwards usually learn their craft after failing as scorers at the highest levels). He's a young NCAA player (turned 18 in December) and he may not be playing a lot in those college games. Having said that, his Desjardins NHLE makes him a high risk for first round selection.
- D Erik Gudbranson 1-13-14. 6.04, 195 and very tough, he sounds like a throwback defenseman. Has a big brain (something the Oilers value) but is more of a stay-at-home type than the others at the top of the draft.
- D Mark Pysyk 4-8-12. Suffered a broken foot this year and played on a horrible team (which may have had an impact on his offense). He's 6.01, 174 and should have a nickname like "the Pencil." Scouts say he skates well, can play defense and complements the offensive play with good passing and putting himself in good scoring positions when the opportunity shows itself.
- D Alexander Petrovic 3-9-12. The scouting reports are glowing, he sounds like a complete player. Calm feet, moves the puck effectively and he's effective in all areas. Safe pick.
- D Derek Forbort 3-9-12. 6.05, 198 and scouts talk about good 2-way ability. I'm not certain he'll be an offensive player but the scouting report about his defensive play is impressive. He's off to UND this fall, we'll get a better view of his heralded offensive ability at that time.
- D Dylan McIlrath 3-6-9. He's a beauty. 6.04, 212 and he's big and mean. Its like Michael J Fox went back to 1970 and brought back a defenseman. Very physical player, he's just average as a puck mover.
So, to review: this is not a top 30 mock or ranking, it's me running all their stats through Desjardins equivalencies to have a look at them in a row. Defenders will obviously be moving up this list and the skilled, one dimensional forwards will be moving off my top 30 by the time we get to late June. I'd love your input.

I agree that Seguin should end up on the top of your list at the end... but if the Oilers want to draft him, can he win any damn faceoffs?!?! :)
ReplyDeleteNow which one of these players do you think the Oiler's could grab at 31?
ReplyDeleteOutstanding work, LT. Top notch.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if you could give a thumbnail on Jaden Schwartz, you got sidetracked on USHL equivalencies on that one and didn't say much about the player.
small kids with a death wish and ridiculous puck skills
Ha! Perfect description. I went to a Pats game and Weal impressed me quite a bit. Dynamite player.
I think as Oiler fans we should pay very close attention to others on this list.
ReplyDeleteWith the rumors swirling around Hemsky, seeing him get traded for a 1st rounder + high end prospect (or two) isn't far fetched.
On another note, the headline to Terry Jone's article today was:
"Oilers' woes everybody's fault but Kevin Lowe's"
That's pretty awesome.
Bruce: Thanks. I updated Schwartz for you. :-)
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: I think they'll take a defenseman, and would love either McIlrath or Petrovic.
It kinda sucks that the "sellers" currency was so devalued at this year's trade deadline. People talk about the Chicago, LA, Washington model of rebuilding which starts with sucking badly for a number of years.
ReplyDeleteStep 1 is to draft elites at with your Top 5 pick like Ovechkin, Backstrom, Doughty, Toews and Kane. The Oilers will do that this year with Seguin.
But step 2 is to move decent players at the deadline for outrageous prices...usually additional first rounders or good prospects. Watching the Caps game last night and they talked about all the guys that are a part of their core that came as a result of deadline day dumps. Brooks Laich and Mike Green are two such examples but there are probably lots more. I remember Coburn going to Atlanta is a deadline deal for Zhitnik too.
I'm not blaming the Oilers but the fact of the matter is that in-their-prime, good-to-great hockey players did not fetch near the return they used to this year. Zhitnek was pretty good then but no better than Grebeshkov and obviously much more advanced age-wise and he returned a recent Top 10 drafted player. Using that model, Grebs could have resulted in one of the contending teams giving up Mikael Boedker (Phx), Colten Teubert (LA), Colin Wilson (Nash), or Cody Hodgson (Van). Instead, we got a 2nd rounder.
In the past, teams that were obviously rebuilding would have entered draft day with 3 first rounders and a new prospect or two. The Oilers have 1 pick in the Top 30 and no new prospects. If those teams drafted well (Philly in '03; Carter and Richards) they'd have a brand new core and the rebuild would be well on its way.
The Oilers have no such luxury. It goes without saying they need a Stamkos or Duchene at #1 but dammit, they need a Ryan Kesler level player at #31 and that's a lot to ask. Some neat names there LT. It seems like a bit of a crapshoot so the Oilers just need to be smarter than everyone else for once.
They've got a real shot at a home run with Kabanov at #31. With first round currency so valuable no one else will waste their best pick on a ? but the dynamics change a little with a second rounder, especially if you don't need him over here for 3 years.
ReplyDeleteI'd prefer a McIlrath but I'd be doing my homework on the fucked-up Russian.
I agree, 31st overall will be the most best/ most complete dman available and maybe MacGregor shoots the moon in the first two picks...Mike Green was taken around 30th right?
ReplyDeleteknighttown: They're not taking a Russian. If Stauffer is as connected as I think he is the Oilers will stay away from Russia, tier 2 junior in Canada and the USA (AJHL, BCJHL, OPJHL, USHL, EJHL) and NCAA.
ReplyDeleteIt would be asinine if they don't select Taylor Hall.
ReplyDelete2 goals for him last night. He's averaging a goal per game in the playoffs. He just steps it up whenever he faces adversity (MVP memorial cup, World Juniors, playoff battle against Seguin). His team was down 3-0 in the series and he's helped them claw back in to force a game 7 Sunday.
Let's hope Stu MacGregor doesn't overthink the way Prendergast did, as exemplified in today's Journal quote
"It was under the old rules and we'd scouted Parise every game from February on," said Prendergast. "All the clutching and grabbing wore him out. He couldn't play in the (college) playoffs. "As an organization, we had to get bigger. We liked Pouliot, and we really liked (J. F.) Jacques a lot and got him in the second round. "It looked good at the time. If we could do it over, we'd do it over, but we can't."
Quite odd he's make that comment when Pouliot is still a member of this organization.
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ReplyDeleteI just finished reading a few of the opinion articles on the firing of the dressing room staff and part of me can't help but wonder if Tambellini's effort to purge the 'ghosts' of Stanley Cups past is misdirected (I am betting the five cups at the door of the room get moved next).
ReplyDeleteI wonder how much Souray's comment that "this organization is stuck in the past" comment is driving the whole process.
Part of me wonders if part of the 'stuck in the past' comment is targeted at some of the things that make the Oilers unique, such as the presence of Joey in the room.
I think that one of the good thing that the Oilers had (pre cap) was that the Oilers expected everyone to be Ryan Smythlike. Clearly, that was lost on the players that have been here since. However, I wonder if the team is now seeking to dump the expectation as opposed to dumping the players that can't live up to that expectation.
I honestly have no idea. Tambellini might have a brilliant plan that is in motion. Maybe he is bringing the concept of team sacrifice back to this organization. Perhaps the 'Ryan Smyth' expectation doesn't work with 90% of multimillion $$ NHL'ers in 2010 and we need a new approach.
I guess we will see. I hope it works out - I am not sure I could handle a failed approach and another rebuild staring in 3-4 years.
Stanislav Galiev? By my calculations he should be in your 25 point range.
ReplyDeleteHe's the first Russian I look at taking.
Dammit. Make that 21 point range.
ReplyDelete6-15-21.
Guy Flaming mentioned a few days ago that Kirill Kabanov is back in Moncton.
ReplyDeleteGranlund really is a PP dynamo with an incredible shot. I think he'll be a fantasy hockey GM's wet dream. He's tiny so who knows how well he'll play at ES. He and Pulkkinen lit up the U18s last week, but somehow ended up as -2 and even in +/-, respectively.
ReplyDeleteI'm really interested to learn more about Evgeni Kuznetsov. He's a kid that I think MacGregor has mentioned at the 31 spot. He's in the KHL this year and put up 9 points, but was one the first allstar team at U18s and scored well with 5-7-12 in 7 games with a 8+. That was good for 5th in tournament scoring but 1st on Russia by 4 points. The rest of the top 5 were from the two high-scoring Finnish and Swedish duos.
My comments the about Finns' respective +/- should be reversed.
ReplyDeleteIf we do indeed end up taking a defenseman at 31 I'd prefer Petrovic to be sure, but McIlrath would certainly be suitable as well. Forbert unfortunately will be long gone by that time, taken with the promise of "Tyler Myers Potential".
I'd be curious to see Granlund's NHLE pitted against Toni Rajala's from last year. I've been running under the assumption that they're clones of one another, but would love to be proven wrong.
ReplyDeletedg: Granlund is being touted as one of the best Finnish players to play in the FNL at 18. Ever. For comparison, Rajala scored 2-3-5 in 21 games in his draft year, while Granlund scored 13-27-40 in 43 games. Jani Rita scored 2-3-5 in 41 games in his draft year.
ReplyDeleteThere's no doubt he can score, but at 5'10" and 176 lbs he'll be challenged at the NHL level. If he works hard he could certainly be a better player than Saku Koivu who is the exact same size. Koivu scored 3-7-10 in 46 games in his draft year, but followed it up with a 23-30-53 campaign in 47 games the next season.
The Finnish Gilbert Brule?
ReplyDeleteGord:
ReplyDeleteHey may be back in Moncton, but he's not playing, as per the official game sheet from yesterday's game: http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index.php?page=342374&id_partie=20980
As an aside, Brandon Gormley is one point shy of PPG status in 14 playoff games. LT might be right in that he's the first D taken.
@ Gord:
ReplyDeleteI live here in Moncton, the Wildcats are rolling over everyone so far, they beat Drummondville last night. I haven't heard Kabanov is back in town however. Interesting. (note - haven't been to any games thus far but should be fun if it's an all NB final should Saint John win.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=115892
ReplyDeleteCheck that guy out LT. Mentionned him a couple of times. 6''3 and over PPG since traded to Lewiston.
Certainly a better pick than Mcfarland who regressed this year.
Nice work by the way.
They're not taking a Russian. If Stauffer is as connected as I think he is the Oilers will stay away from Russia, tier 2 junior in Canada and the USA (AJHL, BCJHL, OPJHL, USHL, EJHL) and NCAA.
ReplyDeleteIts not just Stauffer saying this, Stu himself said something very similar in a radio interview I heard.
He mentioned the much higher probability of 2nd+ rounders from the CHL (specifically mentioned the WHL) playing and making an impact at the NHL level than players chosen from any other source.
I'd still expect them to make the odd USHL and Canadian junior tier II college bound reach picks in the 4+ rounds, but not in the first three.
I like McIlrath with the #31 pick, but I'm thinking he'll be gone in the early 20's. Petrovic would be a solid plan B. The Oilers can lacking defenders who can defend really well, and I'm thinking they will burn one of the second rounders on a defenseman.
ReplyDelete''They're not taking a Russian. If Stauffer is as connected as I think he is the Oilers will stay away from Russia, tier 2 junior in Canada and the USA (AJHL, BCJHL, OPJHL, USHL, EJHL) and NCAA.''
ReplyDeleteI think it's a pretty good idea. Tier 2 is generally just not that good, or random due to less tracking or the disparity between the talent of each player. Altough i'm not fan on passing up a guy just because he's Russian. If Kabanov is still there at 2nd round i'd take my shot at him.
God field of dreams makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteFbv,
ReplyDeleteGood players will play tier II because they remain eligible for NCAA scholarships.
The NCAA views the CHL as a "pro" league and if you have played CHL you cannot play NCAA hockey.
Not everybody makes the NHL some good players will opt for this route in order to get a quality education paid for through scholarships.
That is why you pay attention to some tier II players. Shawn Horcoff is an example from the Oilers who played tier II then NCAA.
Woodguy: No no no. Not what i meant.
ReplyDeleteI know there's some talent guys in there, who remain eligible for NCAA. I know those rules.
Just that those kids who could be 1st line guys on CHL teams, are sometimes just too strong for the rest of the league, who is usually subpar to CHL. That's what i meant in great disparity of talent, and that can cause odd stats.
Taylor Hall might turn out to be another version of Gordie Howe. Tyler Seguin might turn out to be Mike Modano.
ReplyDeleteOne is an excellent player, the other one is top five all time.
I'm afraid we and up watching Hall star for Boston, in a way that will make Parise/Pouliot Doan/Kelly look like amateur dramatics night in Ploughkeepsie.
Just look at how Leafs fans are drinking the Burke party line about Kessel being worth either of these players, really.
*sweating until the draft*
lol
Hunter: ? I'd argue Modano is better than Howe.
ReplyDeleteWay easier to rack up points when the goalies go for ,870% instead of ,920%.
I'm fine with either player and frankly don't understand the idea of being fearful of the pick. The Oilers have NEVER been in this position (first overall) so we can't compare it to anything in their previous drafting record.
ReplyDeleteIf Hall goes to Boston and has a HOF career, why would we fear this? Makes no sense.
Excellent post LT..... thanks for the info
ReplyDeleteModano better than Howe?
ReplyDeleteThere are moments in life when you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Jesus FPB
ReplyDeleteGordie Howe was the best player of his era. He wasthe 3rd best scorer in NHL history. He was big, fast and the best fighter of his era
Now I would love if either on of our 2 possible picks develops into one of the top ten players of his era......
But Gordie Howe.............sheesh
This argument sure beats the usual "Gee, I hope they can uncover an undersized scoring forward at number 22 in the first round".
ReplyDeleteNot wanting to jump in at a lynching, but Howe was wtf? Top five in scoring for 20 seasons straight?
ReplyDeleteFPB should be doing his homework.
ReplyDeleteGrebeshkov part of a GA to lose the game for NAS. Too bad, I guess there's no tinfoil in CHI.
ReplyDeleteJust checked the summary in the NAS-CHI game.
ReplyDeleteCHI with a shorty with 14 seconds left in the game to tie?
Wow.
Ol no-neck must have really pissed off the hockey gods in a previous life, his 1st round draws have been brutal for 10 years.
WG:
ReplyDeleteMartin Erat made one of the dumbest plays in the history of hockey...
Chicago was basically killing a 5 on 3 because Kane was floating high. Erat has the puck in the corner and fires a no look pass to nobody, Chicago goes the other way and Kane taps it into an empty net.
Grebs with 1st and 2nd assists on Erat's two goals in the 3rd.
ReplyDeleteHope Stu pulls a James Neal out of that 2nd rounder.
WG:
ReplyDeleteI know the word is horribly overused these days, but those two assists were sublime.
PDO,
ReplyDeleteThanks.
Sounds like Erat giveth and Erat taketh away in the 3rd.
Poor Trotz, love to seem him win a couple of rounds.
I hope they pick Seguin simply because the Hall boosters are getting so goddamned obnoxious.
ReplyDeleteYou gotta think that if Tambellini knows Staio is gone then Grebs stays.
ReplyDeletePoile jumping at Grebs two days before the deadline was brilliant.
Littlefury:
ReplyDeleteLOL
I honestly think that the Oil go for a Dmen with one of the two second round picks, and this guys name should be in the conversation:
ReplyDeletePatrik Nemeth
(38 GP in Swedish Junior, 16 Gp in the Allsvenskan, and another 18 games at the international level)
6'3" 201 lbs
AIK J20: 38GP, 1G, 19A, 20Pts, 120PiM (0.526Pts/G)
Sorry I couldn't find the Desjardins NHLE for Swedish juniors, but did you see that Pts and PiMs for a big Euro (that is got to be interesting).
People are obnoxious everywhere, don't let that colour your perception of Hall. Vote Hall. ;)
ReplyDeleteSo, anyone here hiring university students with retail/commercial sales/labouring/delivery/driving experience for the Summer?
ReplyDeletePeople are obnoxious everywhere, don't let that colour your perception of Hall. Vote Hall. ;)
ReplyDeleteHeh. I think they'd both be phenomenal picks, but to hear the Hallaholics tell it, Seguin will be a bigger bust than Daigle, Stefan and Wickenheiser combined. I don't get it.
I don't think we can say anything about either player with any certainty other than they're both going to be very good players. Both have their red flags for future potential, such as Hall's injury concerns and Seguin's ability to compete in tight checking. In picking my poison I prefer the player we lack throughout the lineup.
ReplyDeleteIf you read hockey's future though, I'd pretty much stay clear of any discussion of the players, or otherwise you will begin to hate Hall merely by association.
Although the irony of my statement became apparent in retrospect. I'm aware we led the league in man games lost to injury this year. Ha.
ReplyDeleteIf you read hockey's future though, I'd pretty much stay clear of any discussion of the players, or otherwise you will begin to hate Hall merely by association.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's where most of the noise I'm talking about is coming from (though the Hall=Howe thing made me snort bourbon out of my nose). It gets worse when you consider how much of the pro-Hall/anti-Seguin sentiment is based around a four game sample from this year's OHL playoffs and the fact that Seguin failed to make the WJC team as an underage player. Oy vey.
If Hall goes to Boston and has a HOF career, why would we fear this? Makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm only going to speak for myself, but I think there's enough of a gap between the two players that you select Hall.
Hall has simply performed astronomically well when facing adversity starting with his birthdate which lead him to play against tougher opposition throughout his career. He lead Windsor to an MVP, put up numbers in the World Juniors as an 18 year old that are among the nation's best. He's performed better in the head-to-head games against Seguin, and most recently in the playoffs where he put up 6 points in 4 games and a +6 rating (while Seguin put up 0 and -6).
Hall's playoff numbers are even better than regular season. Averaged 1.8 PPG as a 17 year old (36 points in 20 games) and is doing well again this year (27 points in 14 games) - 1.93 PPG.
Hall has been putting up exceptional numbers for 3 years in a row. He's also [likely] doing it with less ice time than Seguin.
Seguin's concerns are legitimate:
1. No track history of putting up these numbers.
2. Has failed whenever facing adversity (recent playoff series against Hall in which he went pointless, failure at the Team Canada World Junior camp in which he got cut).
3. Has been quoted in the papers that "he needs to stop going on the internet" because the media pressure is getting to him.
Meanwhile, Hall stated he doesn't care or have the time to be looking on the internet between this battle.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2010/04/06/king_seguin_hall/
"I'm trying to adjust, but every time I just touch it, I have a guy on me," Seguin said.
A frustrated Seguin admitted the hype of the showdown between the projected top two picks
wore on him.
"I have to stop going on the internet," he said following Monday's 5-0 loss. "I thought I
played good (in Game 2 on Saturday), you know - (but) no results. But in the end, all the
media is just like, 'Hall wins, Seguin loses.'"
_________________
How is this player going to handle the intense climate in hockey-crazy Edmonton if he
can't handle a 2nd round Junior championship?
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I also place value that Hall genuinely wants to play in Canada, and was born and raised for the first 13 years in Alberta, whereas Seguin was quoted as saying 'My friend told me Boston is a pretty cool city.' I know, quibbling a minor point - but still.
Another minor advantage - Hall will be 19 in November. With 7 years before UFA, it's likely Hall begins producing immediately.
It's a no-brainer from where I stand. I will be vehemently devastated if Hall is not the guy the Oilers select on June 25, 2010.
I have also emailed Tambellini/Lowe with my concerns on Seguin, including that sportsnet article.
ReplyDeleteWhether they take it into consideration (they didn't response) will not be known until draft day.
regarding the #31 pick the Oilers have, i believe they will pick one of the bottom of the 1st round players that will fall to the top of the 2nd round because of the fact that either or both of goalies Jack Campbell and Calvin Pickard will be picked in the !st round.
ReplyDeleteGod field of dreams makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteFPV: I suggest you read the book that inspired it, "Shoeless Joe" by W.P. Kinsella. I read the book first, then watched the movie, and thoroughly enjoyed both.
Way easier to rack up points when the goalies go for ,870% instead of ,920%.
Uh, yeah, it would be. I don't have stats for the first few years of Howe's career, but I do from 1954 on, and the lowest NHL Sv% from then until his first retirement in 1970-71 was .903. The highest was .919 in 1955-56, which is far higher than at any time during the Dead Puck Era. It may have gone even higher in the early 50s when scoring was particularly low.
Like say, 1952-53, when NHL teams averaged fewer than 2.4 goals per game over a 70-game sked. Howe led the league with 95 points. Linemate Ted Lindsay had 71, while Rocket Richard was was in third with just 61. Howe's 49 goals were more than 50% ahead of runner-up Lindsay's 32.
I don't think Mike Modano ever had a season quite like that.
PS, Hunter: Howe's record of finishing in the top 5 scorers 20 years running is one of the most astonishing displays of sustained excellence I have ever seen in any sport. Almost a superhuman feat.
ReplyDeleteIf Hall was worth a tinker's damn, Canada would have won gold at the WJC's this year.
ReplyDeleteYEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
ReplyDeleteYEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
LOL. Veiled reference to CSI Miami?!?
I have also emailed Tambellini/Lowe with my concerns on Seguin, including that sportsnet article.
ReplyDeleteWhether they take it into consideration (they didn't response) will not be known until draft day.
I can't see how an anonymous e-mail from a fan wouldn't change their mind.
Maybe i should have expalined myself better:
ReplyDeleteModano was a better player than Howe, directly, not with actual context.
There's just no comparison between a player now and 50 years ago.
Bruce: I was 20 minutes in when i said that, but it does look like one of those movies where they skipped too much of the book.
fpb,
ReplyDeleteBecause that's what Hunter was referencing - that Taylor Hall = oldtime Gordie Howe with oldtime hockey sticks, oldtime physical training and oldtime skills versus Taylor Seguin = modern day Modano?
Really? Just keep digging there...
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