Last night in the middle of the first period, two young Barons rang shots off the post. Magnus Paajarvi--in OKC to find his confidence and some swagger--hit iron and then Teemu Hartikainen--back after missing 10 games--did the same. "We had great chances, it's just one of those things that happens" said head coach Todd Nelson.
Phil Cornet also returned to action, he was the hottest shooter in the territory when injured, and veteran Josh Green scored a goal in his first game back (from suspension and illness) after being parked for 5.
- Phil Cornet (25, 15-3-18) forced his way into the conversation before injury.
- Gilbert Brule (25, 8-10-18) has done everything asked but remains in OKC.
- Teemu Hartikainen (20, 8-5-13) surely he's next to be called up.
- Ryan O'Marra (28, 6-7-13) is +10 and having his best pro season.
- Hunter Tremblay (30, 5-6-11) has been consistent if not spectacular.
- Alex Plante (28, 1-10-11) earned a call up with fine play.
- Chris VandeVelde (31, 3-7-10) lost in the flood a little this season.
- Tanner House (28, 4-5-9) +10 and certainly has the confidence of the coach.
- Tyler Pitlick (28, 4-5-9) has adjusted well to pro hockey, arrows pointing north.
- Taylor Chorney (17, 3-5-8) is now an established tweener.
- Curtis Hamilton (23, 2-5-7) a little behind Pitlick but a quality prospect.
- Linus Omark (7, 1-6-7) remains a fine talent in search of an NHL coach who believes in him.
- Colten Teubert (17, 2-4-6) has done more than anyone in OKC to impress the NHL staff this season.
- Kirill Tulupov (17, 0-5-5) signed an AHL contract recently and I bet the Oilers will get him signed in the summer.
- Antti Tyrvainen (11, 0-4-4) lost in the flood too but performs well when he plays based on what I've read.
- Magnus Paajarvi (4, 0-1-1) looks good according to everyone, I imagine his speed scares the daylights out of AHL defensemen. They'll punish him plenty if he goes to the scoring zones, though and that's what he'll need to do in order to post crooked numbers.
- Milan Kytnar (7, 0-1-1) back to Stockton and honestly it'll be hard to create a scenario for him next year that involves the Barons. Might be playing his final games in the organization ala Johan Motin earlier in the year.
- Cameron Abney (2, 0-0-0) is on a timeline that isn't reflected in the boxcars. I have no idea how he's progressing as an enforcer.
- Ryan Martindale (2, 0-0-0) in baseball they always say players who sit are "victims of a numbers game" and in this case that might be correct. We can't really be critical because he isn't getting the at-bats in OKC. His Stockton boxcars are coming along fine.
I've harped on before about Teubert because I believe he should be playing here every night before Petry, Plante and Peckham. He is going to be a big, steady stay at home guy that is capable of some offence. However, rather than come up here and get mixed up in another lost cause maybe OKC is where he should be and have fun winning and learning and gaining confidence. He will be "the" shut down guy here someday IMO>
ReplyDeletewhat about Tristan Grant posting crooked numbers as an enforcer? where did he come from? could he be a potential NHL enforcer who can score or is it pure fluke...
ReplyDeleteClarkenstein: Teubert certainly has impressed during his time in Edmonton. I would rate him behind Petry, who is a different player type (wider range of skills) but Teubert is clearly ahead of Plante and you can already make a case that he's ahead of Peckham.
ReplyDeleteGood progress, he hasn't been in the organization a year.
Justin: He's 27, so a little old for a prospect but yeah he's posting some numbers. I don't really know what kind of player he has (speed, etc) but maybe I'll try to find out from Jim Byers.
At noon today [MST], Canada plays Davos in the Spngler Cup.
ReplyDeleteIts usually a good game.
Watch some fun hockey - take your mind off of these Greasers or Coilers or whatever they're called.
Always enjoy the Davos-Canada game, and it usually means a lot.
ReplyDeleteI can't really figure out edms handling of brule. Seems like a waste to play him in the ahl all year at an NHL wage, I guess maybe there's something going on there we don't really know about?
ReplyDeleteNot-quite-ready AHL defenceman called up to supposedly help the worst defence in hockey.
ReplyDeleteNot-quite-ready AHL defenceman plays a simple game at first, everyone talks like he's the next coming of ____
followed thereafter by Kilimanjaro drop off in confidence/injury/exposed as being not-quite-ready for the NHL.
Result: Surprise surprise, another busted defence prospect.
its obvious that with brule having to clear reentry waivers he is in okc for the season or will be given the chance with an other organization by being called up and with the reports of his play i dont see that happening
ReplyDeleteI also think that Brule spent a lot of credibility last season when unable to play. An NHL coach who can't count on said player is likely to remember it for a long, long time.
ReplyDeleteSince Brule is a RFA and not UFA at the end of the season, my guess is that they try to move his rights for a pick at the draft.
ReplyDeleteBrule was concussed last year and had post-concussion syndrome (its why LA couldn't buy him out and the Brule/Smyth trade was canceled).
ReplyDeleteTo suggest that Renney has some kind of vendetta against Brule because he didn't play through a concussion is pretty bold.
Apparently it was concussion/ankle/flu and only impacted away games.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3601
The thing with Brule, for me, is how it relates to Lander.
ReplyDeleteI thought I remembered hearing this fall that the AHL shouldn't be looked at as a punishment, that it might be better to be playing a bunch in the AHL (in various situations) than on the 4th line in the NHL. Lander has 3 points in 31 games, playing roughly 10 min a night on the 4th line.
They could be paying Brule to play as the 4th line C, with Lander in OKC in (arguably) a better development situation, saving Lander's NHL money to spend on the signing bonuses for an undrafted CHL/NCAA kid or two.
I have been yelling for a Lander for O'Marra switch for a month now.
ReplyDeleteSo I won't mention it again :-)
Brule is likely more valuable to the Oilers in OKC than getting nabbed off waivers.
Tmabo should be trying to trade Cornet while he is hot. I don't think he is worth anything by himself but might be thrown in as a sweetener in the Hemsky, Sutton, Smyth, Barker, Bulin deals at the deadline.
Update on Whitney from yesterday's Sun, apologies if it has already been posted.
ReplyDeleteBrule was dealing with some personal issues last year, what those issues were exactly is hard to say. I don't think anyone believes the injury reports the Oilers put out regarding Brule last year.
ReplyDeleteI don't even believe the injury reports the Oilers put out regarding Hemsky this year either.
Lombardi most likely had a case with the whole Colin Fraser fiasco. This team is far from being transparent regarding injuries.
The problem was depression, it has been noted in several spots. I'm not suggesting that Tom Renney is a bad, bad man. I'm suggesting that he wants that extra forward to be someone he can count on and that didn't happen a few times last season.
ReplyDeleteFor whatever reason.
Agree with all who say Lander should be in the AHL. Long overdue.
I have to admit I still snicker every time I see "Oil Leak" post with that British Petroleum logo in his avatar. Kudos, sir.
ReplyDelete"Good news" and "Colten Teubert has been called up" simply don't belong together.
ReplyDeleteAs for the rest, yeah, I don't have a Jesus Clue - old-timey NF swear just to make Bruce miss home during the holidays;) - why 57 isn't getting all kinds of ABs in the A and I don't know what the deal is with 91 either.
This year is now about hoping that two of 24-44-58 make the leap and are worth investing in for next season. And this summer is about finding two REAL dmen; guys that are at least as good as 5-77.
Anything less than that is to be considered a failure. Doesn't make a difference how good the kids and vets are up front but if the D's lagging.
"The measure of people's intelligence is how much they agree with you"
ReplyDeleteI wish I had said that-)
The ten minutes that Lander is playing is mostly on the PK. He is the future and at least a third line center which would be expedited in OKC,
For out of the box thinking, put Hall, Hemsky with Lander as a second line - just to give him a taste. Then send him to OKC. Called - asset management.
The Oilers have had mixmaster lineups that accomplished nothing for 20 games.
They could be paying Brule to play as the 4th line C,
ReplyDeleteProbably don't think he'll make it through re-call waivers so he sits in OKC until he can be traded without clearing waivers in the summer.
Once they sent him down at the end of TC, that was pretty much the only option if they want to turn him into an asset and don't mind paying him $1.85MM to play in the AHL.
Terrible money management.
They are likely to get about a 5th rounder or so for him if they can trade him at all, his qualifying number will be $2MM no?
Think we should sack Hordichuk and Peckham for Teubert and O'Marra / Brule.
ReplyDeleteHow does that trade look now? Granted it didn't look very good. But now it's turning in the Oil's favor big time.
Sometimes you have to get extremes.
hey LT,
ReplyDeletehere's my first couple of amateur reports from the WJC, for the lowetide commenter compendium.
Russia vs Swiss:
http://slothpool.toqueboy.com/content/wjc-russia-vs-switzerland-dec-26th
Slovaks vs. Latvia:
http://slothpool.toqueboy.com/content/wjc-slovaks-vs-latvia-dec-27
i'll be continuing to post them everyday and post the links here for everyone.
talimbo :: oilers gm when it comes time to consider a trade
Apparently the Oilers training staff aren't the only ones dropping the ball.David Moss has been out of the Flames lineup for a month with a "high ankle sprain"It suddenly morphed into a fracture that required surgery.
ReplyDeletePierre LeBrun says Detroit "among teams" interested in Hemsky. That is the best news we've had all day!! I'll drive his insolent ass to the airport.
ReplyDeleteCertain kinds of brain injuries are badly aggravated by flying. Perhaps some of Brule's road unavailability was due to nothing more than him recovering from a concussion. So his depression and road woes may have a common cause.
ReplyDeleteThe problem, as I said last night, with Detroit, is that unless they want to give us draft choices they have very little of interest.
ReplyDeleteI'd guess as tissue thin as they are on defence Detroit wouldn't part with Brendan Smith on any terms. That leaves the only other player who would fit long term with the Oilers being Jurco and I am betting Detroit isn't interested in parting with him either.
At a guess you have to be assuming they are offering a draft choice, probably a second and Tatar or Nyquist, both smurfs. Talented smurfs but smurfs.
I'll drive his insolent ass to the airport.
ReplyDeletein·so·lent (ns-lnt)
adj.
1. Presumptuous and insulting in manner or speech; arrogant.
2. Audaciously rude or disrespectful; impertinent.
I've watched this team closely since long before Hemsky entered the NHL.
I do not remember him being insolent.
Are you referring to the chorus of MSM writers going to the "first off the ice" well in every article they write about him?
Perhaps that word does not mean what you think it means. /ss
If Detroit wants Hemsky it's probably a good indication that you should be keeping the guy.
ReplyDeleteHemsky to Detroit is certainly an interesting idea. The return could be a first rounder plus someone useful like one of the 90 Finns/Swedes bubbling under.
ReplyDeletePerhaps that word does not mean what you think it means.
ReplyDeleteI assumed he was talking about the well-documented incident in which Hemsky drove his vehicle through a mud puddle in close proximity to Clarkenstein, who was walking on the sidewalk, and whose new pants were splattered with muddy water.
Probably don't think he'll make it through re-call waivers so he sits in OKC until he can be traded without clearing waivers in the summer.
ReplyDeleteOnce they sent him down at the end of TC, that was pretty much the only option if they want to turn him into an asset and don't mind paying him $1.85MM to play in the AHL.
I don't understand the Brule situation.
When they sent him down at the start of the year, i was thinking they might recall him within a day or two, to hopefully cut their losses and save ~900K if someone claimed him on recall. I can appreciate that he helps the AHL team, but the 900K they'd have saved would go/have gone a long way towards an extra quality AHL vet for the next 2 or 3 year seasons, instead of just Brule this year.
I don't know how much value he carries this summer, in that I doubt anyone would qualify him at his QO rate, so trading for him would only give a team a chance to negotiate early with Brule. What could that be worth to a team? Even if it's a 5th, is a 5th rounder worth the 900K you'd have saved if someone claimed him on re-entry at the start of the season?
@Woodguy... ok I've had enough of your "insolence"!! (Means gall, rudeness and discourtesy to save you looking it up!)
ReplyDelete@ SteveSmith... I know what it means (see response above).
I guess you guys didn't hear of Hemsky's media scrum today at the Leduc arena. However, describe it any way you want FFS!!
Hemsky
ReplyDelete-snot nosed punk~
Even if it's a 5th, is a 5th rounder worth the 900K you'd have saved if someone claimed him on re-entry at the start of the season?
ReplyDeleteI agree its a stretch, but given how much Katz has spend in the AHL, I'm not sure that money means as much as "a bullet for Stu", even if its a 5th.
Not sure anyone bites on him, but 1st rounders carry an inordinate amount of cache in the NHL.
Clarkestein,
So he gets pissy with the media once in his career and you want to drive him to the airport?
Has to be more than that.
Were they nice pants?
Hemsky to Detroit is certainly an interesting idea. The return could be a first rounder plus someone useful like one of the 90 Finns/Swedes bubbling under.
ReplyDeleteSo when he starts putting up 1.25pts a game with Z or Dats everyone who "drove him to the airport" will say "where was that when he was here!!"
If the Oilers had Dats or Z, we'd see it by now.
Why do I get the feeling that if the Oilers trade Hemsky he'll get 70+ games a season for the next 6 years?
ReplyDeleteNo it wasn't just Hemsky's behaviour today... he's just a ray of sunshine all the time isn't he??
ReplyDeleteI'm not the least bit pissy and I don't have any new pants!! All old and this time of year too damn small.
Also, how is there no suspension on the Weber hit? Head shot regardless of intent.
Hemsky to Detroit is certainly an interesting idea. The return could be a first rounder plus someone useful like one of the 90 Finns/Swedes bubbling under.
ReplyDeletev3.2 will insist on a 1st and then Holland will give him a list of players to choose from.
None of the players will project much in terms of NHL scoring, and 1/2 of the names won't even be Red Wings property, but are on the list because Holland will have a side bet with Nill that the Oiler brain trust wouldn't know the difference and pick one them anyway.
Wanting players to be rays of sunshine got us seventeen* years of Jason Strudwick. I'm fine with what you call insolence.
ReplyDelete*Number estimated based on how long it seemed.
I'd like MBS to have a lash at that Detroit list. I'm in favor of keeping Hemsky (why in hell it's even reached this point is batshit crazy) but Detroit has talented players. Always do.
ReplyDeleteIf we trade Hemsky to Detroit for prospects, drive Tamby to the airport.
ReplyDeleteKlefbom a plus on that last Swedish goal.
Anyone else think we should offer this Swiss goalie a contract? Someone else will...
If we are going to trade Hemsky and get a 1st and a prospect then I want Richard Nedomlel.
ReplyDeleteHe plays for a terrible team, Swift Current. On top of which, it appeared coming into this year that he had no offensive upside whatsoever. The result is that he probably doesn't have the reputation of other D-prospects around the NHL.
From the Oilers standpoint he is a really interesting prospect. He is suddenly showing some signs of life offensively and is easily the brightest light on a truly bad team. Nedomlel is huge, 6'4", 235. He skates well, has good gap control,and likes to hit. He is your classic shut down D. Best of all, he is a ferocious fighter. Doesn't do it a lot but he is truly scary when he does.
Nedomlel sort of fits that cluster MBS is building. Big, mobile, European defenders. Though his personality is more like that of Kyle Bigos than any of the Europeans.
vor: Interesting insight, thanks.
ReplyDeleteThey should send Hemsky to that German doc that's fixing Kobe, Rodriguez, Fred Couples and every other athlete with the type of issue he seems to have.
ReplyDeleteIt might just be the magic of bluescreens but it looks like TSN has taken over the handicapped seating at one end of the rink.
ReplyDeleteWell that would be bad form. Seriously. I know that can't be true. Right?
ReplyDeleteGonna sound like a ignorant armchair GM here but how do so many teams pass on a guy like Stone in the draft? Hes exactly the type of guy you take a flyer on in the 3rd or 4th round. Its not like hes a small guy either. 6.03 200lbs and goes to the greasy areas to score. I figured teams would jump all over a guy like that despite his scouting report talking about slow skating.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess there are stories like that every draft year.
What number is Musil?
ReplyDeleteNo sign of David "wide range of skills" Musil on the Czech powerplay... He has been, however, their best defender in their own end.
ReplyDeleteThere we go. #6 who just 5-holed himself on a one-timer.
ReplyDeleteI know there's a ton of Musil love going around, but wouldn't Boone Jenner have been exactly what the Oilers need in their prospect pipeline? He was still available at 31.
ReplyDeleteWell that would be bad form. Seriously. I know that can't be true. Right?
ReplyDeleteYup. I'm hoping an attendee can confirm or deny.
And according to that new Ontario law legislating political correctness with regards to the differently-abled, I don't even know if I can legally call it "handicapped seating" any more.
Actually, Musil is not "wide range of skills" which is the reason he is behind Klefbom, Marincin and Gernat on my top 20.
ReplyDeleteBest defender though, plays with authority.
Handicapped seats are being used by the usual attendees.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Oleksiak looks terrible.
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ReplyDeleteGreat insight on Musil from the commentators.
ReplyDelete"He probably skates backwards better than forwards"
"If you can get him to turn, you could beat him"
These things can be coached out, right?
Actually, Musil is not "wide range of skills" which is the reason he is behind Klefbom, Marincin and Gernat on my top 20.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet behind Teubert based on having either more potential or... "a wide range of skills". I know it can't be the 250 game thing because Teubert's already tallying games. Potential can't be it, considering draft positions and Jr. numbers, which leaves...
;op
I know, I know, I'll shut up about it now.
The feet are going to be the hitch in Musil's giddyup. If he can figure out a way to compensate and hang around long enough he should be a good NHL defender.
ReplyDeleteSorry, "ahead of Teubert."
ReplyDeleteNow I will really shut up.
Within twenty feet of his own net, he looks excellent.
ReplyDeleteDoug Hamilton looks like a dreamboat Dman.
ReplyDeleteThis Beaulieu's got the same kind of 90-degree slapper wind-up that Marc-Andre had.
ReplyDeleteIt's not effective unless you've got a 100-mph cannon.
Stone's feet might be slow, but there's. Nothing wrong with his head speed.
ReplyDeleteMusil has been a force on the PK so far.
Smid is having a solid game for CZE!
ReplyDeleteThat pass by Wedgewood might earn him the starts when the games get serious.
ReplyDeleteFreddie Hamilton has been everywhere tonight.
Great move by Connolly. Pretty goal.
ReplyDeletei would have picked either Boone Jenner or Brandon Saad instead of Musil. said it the day before the draft, the day after, and even more today.
ReplyDeleteMore than a tenth dman the Oilers need a second line center or a top six power forward/winger. The two forwards will be in the NHL in 23 years, Musil in 5-6. With Teubert, Smid, Peckham, Marincin and Klefbom ahead of him it just seems to me this team needs those type of forwards more than a defensive dman who will take longer to develop than it takes Andy Sutton to skate ten laps.
Beautiful goal by Connolly. Man.
ReplyDeletethe forwards will be in the NHL in 2-3 years, not 23
ReplyDeleteBad pinch by the Doug Hamilton there with a 3-0 lead and a minute to go in the period.
ReplyDeleteCaptcha tells me it was a "gistake".
10th D man? Come on guys. Clearly Musil isn't your cup of coffee but this thread is getting off the rails.
ReplyDeleteCan we respect each others opinions? Please.
The only reason the shot total and goal tally aren't more lopsided is because of Musil. He's having a helluva game but it's like bailing a rowboat with a teaspoon after hitting an iceberg.
ReplyDeleteBoone Jenner is the nephew of the only player ever to win a Cup with both the Islanders and Oilers...Billy Carroll.
ReplyDeletei always took notice of Musil, and liked the pick plenty.
ReplyDeletethat said, the guy is eerily similar in toolset to Smid. Thats not a negative, but we must recognize that Smid has just recently developed into an impact NHLer, and was drafted in '04.
I think thats a reasonable timeline for defensive specialist dmen.
Its ultimately a quagmire of questions, but the most pertinent imo, would be, which is more difficult to acquire outside the draft? pick that one.
word verification chooses: demen
It's funny, Klefbom reminds me far more of Smid so far this WJ's. Good footspeed, carries the puck well but doesn't appear to be creative (from what I've seen) and has no power behind his shot at all.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to compare, but I would guess Smid was a better skater back then than Musil is now. LT is probably right on the comparison to Klefbom.
ReplyDeleteI assumed he was talking about the well-documented incident in which Hemsky drove his vehicle through a mud puddle in close proximity to Clarkenstein, who was walking on the sidewalk, and whose new pants were splattered with muddy water.
ReplyDeleteThe very pants he was returning...
Smid was probably projected more of a Klefbom than a Musil during his draft year too.
ReplyDeleteTheres a lot to be said for a guy like Musil that delivers the goods as described, early and often. Musil clearly does, in a more limited scope than Klefbom.
Musil is a sure fire NHLer imo, and that has a lot of value outside the 1st round
Duck and cover LT. That was UGLY. Twice.
ReplyDeleteI think Musil would fit in right now after that goal... WTF? Have to keep reminding myself they are kids.
ReplyDeletePaajarvi with a couple of assists tonight.
ReplyDeletePajaarvi still sucks, right?
ReplyDelete@ Hunter:
ReplyDeleteRe: Paajarvi - please don't feed the trolls.
If the Oilers trade Hemsky to the Wings they should ask for this CZE goalie.
ReplyDeleteHas made some unreal stops.
In addition to a 1st and D prospect of course.
ReplyDelete@Jfry,
ReplyDeleteHow do you get a login id to this slothpool site ? I see where you login, but no place to register.
Thanks
Interesting info there.
ReplyDeletesorry LT about the 10th dman comment. Let me articulate that better.
ReplyDeleteThe way I look at a drafted player is what will happen in 2-3 years. IN 2013-2014 fall which will be Musil's first pro season, it is likely to assume that he will be behind the following dmen in the depth chart:
Gilbert, Smid , Whitney or cap space replacement, Petrey, Potter, Teubert, Peckham, Marincin, Klefbom. That puts Musil at 10th, not counting Bigos or the 25% possibility in my mind the Oilers draft Ryan Murray this spring, or that Gernat may have passed him by that time as well.
Whereas at the same time line, based on what is currently drafted, the Oilers will have who for the top 9 forward power forward and second line two way center? Hartikainen and Lander, both of whom are more likely to be third line than top 6. So that leaves possibly Pitlick to compete for both of those jobs. Considering he was a healthy scratch again last night I am not sure he is headed for the top 6 either. That all being said, I would prefer that the Oilers would have drafted Saad or Jenner.
Not to mention the stats on how long defensive dmen take to make the NHL, let alone have an impact, versus forwards, and the length of ELC's , UFA status, etc. I just think it was a clearly better move to pick one of those two forwards.
Going into 2010-2011 season I realize Musil was ranked as a top 15 but Saad was ranked number 5 by Bob Mckenzie. He dropped due to a hamstring injury he played through for the second half of the season. He has been fantastic ever since, almost making the Blackhawks and playing well in the world juniors right now.
That is all my opinion and I think it makes a lot of sense. No need to say the forum is going off the rails because I don't agree with the Musil pick.
To the person who commented above about the blue screen and TSN and the seats. They actually converted a whole bunch of seats into an panel area for McKenzie, et al. I think it's like section 110 approximately. I suspect they lost between 40-50 seats to put it in.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately injuries will also impact that list along with free agency, etc.
ReplyDeleteI do understand your top 10 point, though. Thanks for clearing it up.
Oilerfan
ReplyDeleteExcellent post - well reasoned and convincing especially for a team like the Oilers.
This is where scouting falls down. They don't seem to cultivate local contacts. All indicators were that Saad was a coaster. For example this is the first I've heard that Saad was playing through a hamstring injury.
Granted the sheer volume of players that appear every year going up and down is difficult but a pick like Saad would make the difference in a year's draft. Something like Tvrdon.
I like Booner Jenner (great name!)but he had a point a game in his draft year and has hardly improved on that this year.
ReplyDeleteHe's a two way energy forward who will play a third line role in the NHL. Or maybe he will be Steven Rice.
He is way behind guys like Pitlick and Hamilton.
The Oilers could use a few Frank Musils right now. If his kid turns out even a little better (as projected) he will have more than covered his draft position.
Tons of guys have looked impressive in the World Juniors only to be never heard from again.
@ Ducey.
ReplyDeleteWay too premature to make calls like those.
What would you have said about Brad Marchand?
Hemsky snaps:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Hemsky+future+with+Oilers+murky+trade+deadline+approaches/5921080/story.html
Ducey: Jenner's having a better season as an 18 year old this season than Pitlick did last year as a 19 year old. And he's well ahead of Hamilton at the same age. I don't see why you think he's so far behind.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Hemsky snapped. I think he's frustrated. And it sounds like. He would prefer to stay. So sign him one year at $5M. Say, hey, show us you're the star we think you are and we'll pay you.
ReplyDeleteInjuries are a toough thing for the NHLPA. We heard Souray express the similar things... Players think the sacrifice of their body means something, and considering what they need to go through, I can see why, but management feels the exact opposite: you're not there when we need you.
So does a person choose to do less than what he can do and take the flak for that lesser efffort from management, fans, and his own self, or does he take risks for the team, in the hope of being awarded for that commitment. Myself, I think the player has it wrong, it's solely about winning games, but jesus, when you break a bone, tear a muscle, snap a tendon for a team, and have to re-hab from it, all for. The team, the cold shoulder is tough to take.
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ReplyDeleteOilersfan said:
ReplyDelete"IN 2013-2014 fall which will be Musil's first pro season, it is likely to assume that he will be behind the following dmen in the depth chart:
Gilbert, Smid , Whitney or cap space replacement, Petrey, Potter, Teubert, Peckham, Marincin, Klefbom. That puts Musil at 10th..."
Lowetide said:
"Unfortunately injuries will also impact that list along with free agency, etc."
Taking Lowetide's comment a step further (and more cynically?), I think general management and bizzarre non-signings will have a greater impact on where Musil ranks in our depth chart in 2013-2014 season. The optimism of the Oilers having either a healthy Whitney or a cap replacement is something I just can't imagine Tambellini accomplishing.
Sorry about the previous post by "Unknown" ... I thought I had logged in.
ReplyDeleteHemsky from the article:
ReplyDeleteI can’t wait to play. I will be better.”
What a selfish jerk.
Drive him to the airport!
If Detroit wants Hemsky I would trade him straight-up for a crash course in NHL management for Steve Tambellini, delivered by Ken Holland.
ReplyDeleteDucey: Jenner's having a better season as an 18 year old this season than Pitlick did last year as a 19 year old. And he's well ahead of Hamilton at the same age. I don't see why you think he's so far behind.
ReplyDeleteI hadn't looked at ages but just their year after being drafted:
Jenner (so far) 1.22 pts per game
Hamilton 1.32 pts per game
Pitlick 1.11 pts per game.
I give Pitlick a little leeway given he changed leagues.