Thursday, December 29, 2011

G36 Oilers at Wild


Small victories are big steps. The Edmonton Oilers have some maturation on defense and youngsters learning on the job in Edmonton and in Oklahoma. As with all of these things, you never know about specific players but (as they say) if you throw enough on the wall some will stick.


The Oilers fanbase would have loved Jim Dorey. Seriously. He played the game in black and white with red rising every time his skates cut through the ice. The great thing about the olden days was if the game sucked or the home team was horrible, a good bench clearing brawl could make things more interesting.



One of those might be fun, right? Theo runs over some Minnesota pepperpot and it's game on. That doesn't happen anymore because the actual players don't fight and the fights that do happen are pretty much booked in advance.
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The development of the blue continues tonight, with all of Petry, Peckham, Teubert and Potter trying to grab the rope and climb. Oilers are going to enter the summer with an uncertain depth chart that has Ladislav Smid, Tom Gilbert and Ryan Whitney (when healthy) as actual NHL players. Steve Tambellini did find Potter, but Tom Renney's memory banks get a big assist on the goal. I don't know that any of the men trying to establish themselves can be counted on next year in a major role, but would guess that Jeff Petry is the closest among the kids.
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Ales Hemsky is getting a lot of attention lately. Matty has an article up about him and there seems to be blood in the water. Every time you read "Ales Hemsky" lately the words "left practice early" are sure to follow. It's become quite an item, but the smart bet is to ignore the gossip and get 83 straightened around and scoring. A one or two year deal seems wise, I wonder if the Oilers are still thinking about it or if it's all about the trade.
Matty does say that the Oilers would be looking for a defenseman in return, meaning Nashville is in the mix along with (as Jim Matheson mentioned) Detroit and Los Angeles. Maybe this is the year they get Voynov from the coast.
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I don't have much to say about the game tonight. Hope the kids do something special and no one gets hurt. Two points would be very good, but don't count on it. Sometimes it is best to have the faith of a child and to look for small victories. Remember that meeting a long time ago where the season ticket base told the Oilers to fix it, get it right?

If they knew then what they know now, would they say that same thing?
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Keep those reports coming on the WJ kids. Interesting insight on the group, you can read the comments section over the last few days or stay tuned and I'll have a post offering your words on them around the end of the round robin.

101 comments:

  1. Re: Hemsky. Man I hope they re-sign him. I think it would be a massive mistake to let him go. We can't just rely on Eberle, Hall and RNH, we need other talents, and who better than a guy who's led his team in scoring 4 times, been an important player in a Stanley Cup Final run and who seemingly likes being in Edmonton. He's having a bad year sure, and he's had his fair share of injury troubles, but the guy can flat out play hockey. Keep good players, as Pat says. And I know I'm biased because Hemsky has always been one of my favourite Oilers, but I really think it would leave a huge hole talent wise in the team if they let him go.

    And I'm not reading too much into all the "Hemsky told the reporters to shove it" articles; he's never been a media-guy, it's just his way (not that it's helping his image).

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  2. This is the most winnable game of the trip.

    MIN is 2-5-3 in the last 10, and lost in a shoot out last night in Nashville.

    They are the worst puck possession team in the NHL (in terms of shot differential)

    They haven't won a game since Dec 10 when the bubble of amazing SV% and shooting % starting crashing towards normality.

    Their team PDO has moved from 1040 to 1013 during this slide.

    If the Oilers don't win this game, the road trip might be an absolute disaster instead of just terrible.

    I hope Hemsky plays.

    I hope they win.

    Go Oilers!

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  3. Also, from the previous thread:

    Hemsky from the article:

    I can’t wait to play. I will be better.

    What a selfish jerk.

    Drive him to the airport!

    Once Hemsky is gone there will be 0 Oilers in their 20's who have outscored tough comp.

    Vish was right, real competitiveness near the top of league is 5 years away.

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  4. I think the smart bet is 1-2 year deal but if he wants to cash in as a UFA (can you blame him) they might be forced to move him. I cant see the Oilers committing long term with his injury risk and the kids needing deals.

    Nashville is a great match. Guys like Ellis, Blum seem like good targets. Who is this Josi guy? Played 25 min in absence of Weber last night. 21 years old, have been hearing twitter raving about him the last bit.

    Go Oil! I just cant get on board the #failfornail (yet)

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  5. Wild had Koivu back last night but couldn't find a way to crack NAS and lost the shootout. PMB tried that reverse spin-a-rama in the shootout but missed.

    Would like to think we can find a way to get a win tonight, but with the d-corps, you know at some point Teddy Peckman is going to be burned real bad. The education of a young defense can be frustrating.

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  6. Wild had Koivu back last night

    Well the game just became measurably less winnable.

    Dammit!

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  7. Morning folks,

    Was at the US-Finland game yesterday. What a HOOT! A couple of players for both teams really stood out, and some of them will certainly be familiar to people.

    Finland played a really solid team defense, and collapsed well to the net. Did a good job getting in the lanes and both breaking up passes and blocking shots. They were much better at stripping players of the puck by lifting sticks and skating away with it. Was quite impressive to see. They Forced the US to the perimetre well, and while the US had way more shots, Finland definitely had many more 5-bell chances from a scorring chance perspective (even though many of their chances wouldn't have counted by the metrics due to shots not hitting the net, whther due to sticks lifting or passes in the goal mouth not connecting).

    Team USA got jobbed a little with a makeup call in the 3rd, and Finland managed to take the momentum thanks to the goals that followed. Their Goalie gibson tripped a player who was skating through the crease (the kind of 'trip' you might see happen with Burrows or one of the Sedin's) and because they gave the US a weak call not 20 seconds earlier, it was clear this was an even up call. After a few quick goals, Finland just counter-attacked for the win.

    Team Finland's goalie got a lot of credit for the win, but both my Dad and I weren't all that impressed with the young man. He out-duled Gibson, who was quite poor, but it seemed like the finnish netminder had a lot more of the puck luck today.

    It was easy to see that Coyle, Saad, and Etem were the top line for the US. Definitely did not look very into the game, but even then they were easily the most dangerous line on the ice. Good along the boards, and had some good chances and setups that fell apart when the finland players either picked their pockets or deflected pasees.

    The US defense was Huge. Jared Tinordi is a beast. He, John Merrill and Derek Forbort were definitely forces to be recond with in the US Zone. But they were all so slow! The finish forwards just kept pushing the US Players, and it seemed like by the 3rd period, the US D-men were just out of juice. They were slow both mentally in choosing what to do with the puck, as well as physically (they are not mobile) and the finish players just took the punishment along the boards and worked to create scoring chances.

    A real eye-opener for the value of defenders with speed - their lack of mobility killed the US tonight.

    Jani Hakanpää was a rock for the Fins defence. Really played a well rounded game, and looked very good clearing the net and getting under the skin of US forwards. Made some solid checks and really punished a few players for working the boards. St. Louis' 4th rounder in 2010 looks like a plus pick right now. He's a guy I'd take on the Oilers in a couple of years - think a younger smid who made more smart plays than bad ones.

    Joel Armia just got slected by Buffalo this part year in the first round, and he looks like a good pickup too. didn't always have the best moves, but he worked his tail off for his chances and had a lot of fight in him. Took some punishment from the US Defenders but usually maintained control of the puck.

    Both Mikael and Marcus Granlund looked quite good too. Both pushed the net hard and created chances, with Mikael getting the better of them and the goal. Pushed teh play well, and pulled a Hemsky a couple of times (skate through 4 players and loose the puck without a shot on net).

    Fun Game. Best part was how everyone in a team Canada jersey was cheering for the fins. Too much fun.

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  8. Watched Gernat and Marincin last night battle with the Russians.

    Holy reach Batman! Both of them. Quite similar players actually.

    Marincin has surprisingly quick feet for a D-man. Good puck skills as well.

    Gernat got beat wide once by a speedy Russian forward and was a little slow on his turn. Not quite as quick or agile as Marincin.

    Both join the rush and mostly chose good times to do so.

    Both had active sticks - lots of poke checks.

    Marincin played both L and R D. I thought both should have gotten more icetime, but the Slovaks played 3 and 6 in more situations. The Slovak D group as a whole had the Russian forwards quite frustrated.

    Lots of potential there. If they can be positionally sound at the pro level they have an abundance of usefull tools.

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  9. Two things I got from that article:

    1) The smear job is in full effect. Hemsky will not be an Oiler past this season.

    2) Matheson and everyone else seem to think "concussion" is spelled "flu".

    Feel free to tell me I'm reading too much into things.

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  10. Just a simple question... Have you stopped updating lowetide.ca?

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  11. Dooman: No. We're going to fold the entire damn thing into the lowetide.ca site at some point soon, so it'll all go over at once.

    Stay tuned.

    Showerhead: That's exactly it. Demonizing 83.

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  12. That was my takeaway too...

    I thought Hemmer was making it pretty clear he wanted to stay and play, but not that's not how it was spun.

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  13. A fired up Hemsky is a good thing. Remember last year when he was a throw in at the all star game and everyone immediately speculated he would be the last player picked (ie the worst of the best)? He responed by declining the all star invite and playing a great game just before the break with 4 assists.

    Same thing in the playoffs in '06. Hemsky was magical. What he needs is to get fired up, and that's hard to do on a chronic losing team. The media have got him going, and I'll enjoy his next 5 games or so before it wears off again.

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  14. Add me to the re-sign Hemsky camp. Even last year a healthy Penner with a year left on his contract and having a decent year got Teubert and a first. What will an oft injured Hemsky rental with injury problems get? If it is a second or lower, what is the point? I would prefer gambling that the Oilers can re-sign him, which I think we could if he was coddled a bit.

    I am really hoping this negative vibe from Dan Tencer last night and Matheson lately isn't a message from Tambo to soften the fans for a trade. No doubt he would be considered an elite secondary scorer. I hate the flames but watching Tanguay the last two seasons reminds me of Hemsky, an elite stickhandler and playmaker with an excellent shot used infrequently. Tanguay had a shoulder reconstructed his Montreal and followed it up with a terrible year in Tampa. Then he had an excellent year in Calgary which he parlayed into a 4 year 3.5 million deal.

    I wonder if the best deal for both parties is to offer Hemsky that for 2 years, but then be willing to go to 3.75 or even 4 with the hopes he gets his game back. If he does, great, keep him or at least trade him then when he has some value. I think half of Hemsky's problem this year is feeling a bit unloved after being the star so long, not to mention being afraid to get hurt again in his contract year. Get another contract done and I bet his confidence as well as his game gets another gear.

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  15. Hm, I've been working tons during the holidays, so missed most of the comment threads.

    Has anyone came up with the obvious draft tank name for this year?

    "Another Nail in the Coffin for Yakupov?

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  16. Comment re: WJC

    Canada vs Czech

    Hockey wise, the Czech goalie was very very good. I am really not surprised to find out today that the best franchise in Hockey drafted him in 2010. Nice one, Detroit.

    Canada plays a lightning fast game. They lack creativity, and look to dominate with forechecking and size. The powerplay didn't really click despite the many opportunities - they developed clay feet frequently, and didn't shoot enough. The goals were pretty, but they could've easily had more.

    The Czechs burned out, especially mentally, and couldn't handle the intensity despite hanging in the game for a while. The Canadian style is relentless, but tiny mistakes would look huge at the speed they play. The blueline didn't impress. Harrington moved the puck well, and showed poise. Oleksiak is BIG, pretty rangy, but didn't stick out aside from his size. The Czech Musil's body language was identical to his father's!

    Stone is a clutch, Phil Esposito/Craig Simpson type. Not a good choice for the penalty shot, but strong and money near the crease.

    The creative ones are Huberdeau and Schwartz, able to think and act under pressure. Incredible tight passes from both in the offensive end. Connolly really impressed with his slick hands, he's a very complete hockey player.

    I loved Canada's goalie Wedgewood. Strong and nimble, totally earned the shutout. Brilliant pass led to the turning point goal.

    Other observations: The level of middle-aged drunkenness on display. Despite the overall youth within the crowd, it was the over 45 crowd who acted the most immaturely and couldn't hold their liquor. Kudos to the young crowd for keeping the enthusiasm positive and fun.

    Rexall is run like a joke, of course to Oiler fans this is no surprise, but for the World Juniors, they brought their poorest effort. Awful food concessions (cold nacho cheese on the cheeseburgers??), sold out souvenir stores ("the stuff is en route from the airport, come back tomorrow"........seriously) obviously average or below average ice for the world's best juniors. Northlands, you are finished running the arena in this town. As poor as it is for Oiler Games, this was below that weak standard, and when they should step it up.

    I can't wait for a new arena, and I am stomaching season tickets to this gong show of arena management in highest hopes of the new district materializing by 2015. Rexall, don't drop the ball now!

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  17. As someone who has long been on the "Keep Hemsky" train, I thought it was thrilling to hear this kind of emotion. I wish he'd surse the reporters out every week.

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  18. Since Renney has been around Ales has played 22, 47, and now 22 games. It wouldn't be unusual for him to be a little frustrated wondering if he can rely on the guy, would it?

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  19. I hate the flames but watching Tanguay the last two seasons reminds me of Hemsky, an elite stickhandler and playmaker with an excellent shot used infrequently. Tanguay had a shoulder reconstructed his Montreal and followed it up with a terrible year in Tampa. Then he had an excellent year in Calgary which he parlayed into a 4 year 3.5 million deal.

    Exactly.

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  20. I'm also hoping Whitney hangs it up for the season and works on re-building the strength in his ankle for next season. There's no playoff pot at the end of this season's rainbow, so there's no point in risking further injury by physically compensating for his present issues.

    I know he probably feels bad--because of his paycheque and his character he wants to be a contributor now--but I think going into full-on rehab with an eye to being 100%* next year is the best help he can give this team.

    *a completely subjective number based solely on this player and his history.

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  21. The good news: This is the last game this season against Jacques Lemaire's evil stepchildren

    The bad news: Backstrom is 15-0-0 with a 1.19 goals-against average and .954 save percentage in his career at home versus the Oilers.

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  22. I haven't seen this posted anywhere (my reading has been spotty at best during the Christmas madness), so just in case it hasn't been, here is Redline's pre-WJC Report.

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  23. Is this "spOILertide" now? Seriously tho' I wonder if Katz has ever considered giving a guy like Ken Holland a piece of the team to come and sort out this fucking mess. It's going to take a genius to get this thing back on the tracks.

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  24. One of the things a healthy Hemsky brings to the Oil is balance. We've got some very talented forwards who are young and not enough vets who can play the toughs until the kids learn how to swim.

    I don't mind the media asking some tough questions (as opposed to some of the cream puffs that typically get thrown up). More importantly, I'd love to see a highly motivated 83 playing because so far this season - whether it's been injury or illness he's looked disinterested.

    Like others, my greatest fear is he goes to a place like Detroit or even NYR and puts up big points and we get nothing back in return.

    Either way, I think 3.2 is going to be 2nd guessed.

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  25. This article
    from The Sun is a little more even-handed, full credit to them.

    One of the lines I took from it though was this:

    Renney said the Oilers brain trust hasn’t huddled together to discus the winger’s future, and at the moment, are simply focused on salvaging this year.

    Because, you know, there's lots of time left to figure out whether Hemsky is a piece of the jigsaw or not.

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  26. I would say this is where I yearly part ways with the local fanbase.

    Everyone throwing themselves into the TSN World Junior Tournament That Globally Doesn't Matter while another Oilers season burns.

    There's nothing to be optimistic about as long as areas of need aren't addressed.

    and given what we got for old 27 given what he had left on his contract, what a farce the 83 return will be,.

    And, yeah, press, turn on a guy who's always played into the tough areas instead of talking about just how poor the D depth chart was heading into the season.

    Another gutless move by the media. Zona's picked up the baton from a race I've been running for Years but nothing will ever change as long as the same people are in charge and the same people are writing about them.

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  27. I'll give Brownlee credit, he's been writing about how thin the D is all year.

    The poll at the bottom of the Sun article has 128 votes for trading Hemsky and 58 votes against.

    Here is a sampling of the comments:

    Renney says Hemsky "has great character" thats exactly what he doesn't have;he's a selfish crybaby who is pouting now he's 2nd line material;I hope he lights it up,and get him out of here.

    A lot of fans in Edmonton get what they deserve with this shitty franchise.

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  28. Hemsky really doesn't bring "balance" longer term. There are too many smallish offensive forwards, and only one of them shoots the puck.

    Nugent-Hopkins and Eberle might be all you keep long term.

    I preferred keeping Penner over Hemsky last year. And I prefer keeping Gagner over Hemsky this year, particularly as Gagner has demonstrated plug-and-play versatility this year.

    Hartikainen and Omark really have to play on offensively oriented lines, as you don't get defensive reliability out of them.

    The only way I support keeping Hemsky is on a one-way deal to see if he can regain form, but I don't see Hemsky being willing to sign a one year deal with Edmonton.

    I think it is really best for the player and the team that Hemsky gets a change of scenery.

    I think too many Oiler fans are far too sentimental. I think Lowe might be in that sentimental camp, since Hemsky is his legacy, and if he is blocking Tambellini from trading him, shame on him.

    I'd rather see Hartikainen, Paajarvi, and/or Omark, and Hemsky's money used on a quality top four defenseman, if all you can get for Hemsky is picks or a prospect.

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  29. I maybe alone on this boat, but if the return is significant, I'm for trading Hemsky. Don't get me wrong, I like Hemsky but it's the injury concerns. Is it smart for the Oilers to make a longterm commitment to a player who played only 22 games two years ago, 47 games last year and looks like he's missing another half season this year?

    If the Oilers signed Hemsky to a four year, $20 million contract - and he plays averages 45 games for each of those seasons, is that a good deal?

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  30. I think there's a price point at which we would all be for trading old Ales. That said, we have recent Oiler history and his pending UFA status which both suggest we're not getting top drawer prospects back.

    And if that's the case, then let's just keep one of the reasonable good NHL forwards we have. The "get a good D-man" argument is one I at least have time for - it's the "Hemsky's a bum" BS that immediately puts you on the Oilogosphere list o' batshit crazy.

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  31. Ha. I meant to say "players", not "prospects". Blame it on the beer, the whiskey, or the years of being an Oiler fan. Take your pick.

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  32. You need some luck to make a deep cup run.

    I think the thing to do is sign Hemsky for 4 years, and hope that the hockey gods make him healthy for the playoffs once or twice during that stretch.

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  33. The Oilers should totally trade Hemsky and rely on unproven youngsters like Hartikainen, Paajarvi, and Omark.

    Screw keeping NHL players on the roster, who needs them? The Oilers need to rely on kids like they do with their defense core. Getting rid of Souray, Lubo, Grebeskov et all was a brilliant idea a few years ago, let's keep this up.

    Seriously, give your head a shake people.

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  34. Oh yeah, Gagner is a plug in - how's that working out?

    All Hemsky wants to do is play hockey. Let's run him out of town for a draft pick that might produce three/four years down the road.

    Has Hemsky ever had a center that could take a pass? Yet he instructed his agent to open talks on a contract. The press accused him of not playing due to sniffles.

    Yep, trade him for ten cents on the dollar.
    You're right, the Oiler fans don't deserve a Hemsky.

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  35. Let's just get this over with. I'm seriously tired of these Minnesota games. Hopefully this one goes as well as the last one and Eberle can light up the christmas tree in the crease (That's what their jerseys remind me of).

    ...Please don't trade Hemsky.

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  36. As a side-note to the Hemsky discussion, I'm still concerned about what's going to happen with Omark.

    If Omark is fed up with the Oilers organization, returns to Sweden, and never comes back to the Oilers AND Hemsky leaves, this seems depressingly similar to when the Oilers got rid of both Stoll and Reasoner. Horcoff became our de-factor responsible centreman and was worked into the ground.

    Based on this, I'd like to keep Hemsky around, if only to help give Eberle an extended opportunity to succeed (so he doesn't become our only RW option).

    I don't imagine Hemsky would agree to a paycut with a new contract with the Oilers, but would a 2-yr $4.5 million contract get the job done?

    Lowetide: what about "losing in a hurry for Ryan Murray" ?

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  37. Hemsky really doesn't bring "balance" longer term. There are too many smallish offensive forwards, and only one of them shoots the puck.

    Not sure how important it is to have balance that way.

    A lineup featuring Giroux, RNH, Eberle, Hemsky, Versteeg, Datsyuk, Patrick Kane, Ray Whitney, Weiss, Parise, St.Louis, and Briere would be all kind of similar players in terms of style and type, but I'm doubting it would be a problem.

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  38. Trading Hemsky for picks and prospects is pretty much madness, so maybe they'll sign him for another year or two.

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  39. Eberle's hands should be protected with titanium whenever he's not on the ice.

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  40. I can't find a feed for the game, either. Edmonton is apparently up 1-0 on a Hall from Eberle goal...

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  41. Nice goal by Koivu. There's not much you can do against that.

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  42. It's kind of cool to see Lander sitting by Horcoff on the bench chatting it up.

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  43. I liked that period fine, except the fourth line is like kicking yourself in the nuts.

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  44. The one thing I wonder about is the 4 on 4's, no kids. I imagine he doesn't trust RNH but eberle's a solid choice and Hall should be able to wheel 4by4.

    Right?

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  45. RNH and Eberle have been scored on at least twice on the 4 on 4, at least that's what Stauffer said on CHED.

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  46. Yea, the 4 on 4 with Belanger and and Jones seems pretty strange. You'd think that he'd give the time to some guys that can use the open space to create something.

    Perhaps Coach Renney doesn't quite trust his defensemen on 4 on 4 situations.

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  47. The Oilers don't have any 4 on 4 goals this season. 3 against.

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  48. I'm not watching the game, why did Lander play so much that period, was he playing well?

    He got more ice than any of RNH, Hall, Eberle, and Gagner

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  49. Good point Ribs, it could be the lack of trust in the D.

    Although it was 5-77-10-94 on the ice when Koivu made them all look like pylons.

    Interesting that 57-10 was a forward pair during a 4 on 4.

    Seeing 58 poor so far. Bad decisions to pressure up ice with no one covering a couple times.

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  50. Hall took a penalty so that may have contributed.

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  51. PM F'n B makes it 3-1. It should be funny, but I'm not laughing.

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  52. There were A LOT of 4 on 4 minutes... so thats probably why TOI was a little skewed... Hall was kiboshed by the white wizard #14

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  53. Although it was 5-77-10-94 on the ice when Koivu made them all look like pylons.

    Smyth picked Gilbert

    It was a beautiful cut by Koivu

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  54. Further signs of the 2012 apocalypse - Smid becomes a scoring threat

    DFH

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  55. wow the wild were wayyyy offsides on that goal.... terrible no call there

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  56. Petry and Teubert have both shown their inexperience tonight. Yet, somehow, Theo Peckham looks far worse.

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  57. Hall, Eberle, RNH +5

    Smyth, Horcoff, Hemsky -5

    Nuff said

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  58. Nuff said

    Have you considered making that your mantra?

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  60. Hordichuk comes in and establishes momentum for the Wild, just in case anyone was wondering.

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  61. The minnesota announcers still have not realized that Khabby has been taken out. I'd rather listen to Jack and Bob than watch the Minnesota feed.

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  62. I love that it took 4 minutes for Quinn and Debrusk to notice that Dubnyk was in net. You can't fool these guys.

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  63. Horcoff evidently didn't think that enough had been said.

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  64. Looking at the IIHF summary for the Canada game, Harrington goes 1G, 3A for 4 pts, +7 on the night. Not bad.

    Niklas Jensen appears to have been voted best player (BP on the scoresheet, i think that's what that's for?) for Denmark, with 1 assist and -7 on the night. that can't happen every day.

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  65. Teubert has been jumping up into the play a lot this game. He hasn't looked half bad doing it, either.

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  66. Horcoff didn't think that 'nuff had been said.

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  67. How come every time the Oil have a 10 bell scoring opportunity the puck is on Horcoffs stick. FFS

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  68. sounded like an exciting finish. One of Jack's better calls.

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  69. Did the Oil even register a shot with the 6-on-4 at the end?

    Eberle bobbled the puck twice during that sequence. There is something you don't see very often....

    Good third period. Not enough, unfortunately.

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  70. I can't believe I missed Latvia vs Russia for this.

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  71. How come every time the Oil have a 10 bell scoring opportunity the puck is on Horcoffs stick.

    I'm sure there's no causal relationship.

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  72. entertaining game, I'll say that. Top 2 lines created chances and the Oilers could have counted a point or two.

    Too many goals lost to defenders learning on the job. Again.

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  73. Hordichuck's job is to get the crap kicked out of him and have any momentum shifted to the opponent?

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  74. That's too bad.

    They might get 2pts on this 7 game trip now.

    Hemsky had his best game in a long time. Looked great.

    Hall was everywhere too.

    Bad coverage mistakes by the young D leading to at least 2 goals, maybe 3... along with low glove on Nik.

    The forwards weren't too bad for the most part. The D looked young and inexperienced.

    Nik shit the bed, but I guess he's allowed once in while.

    DD looked good. Hope he gets the start Sat. morning on Long Island.

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  75. How many more times does the coaching staff need to see Hordichuk lying on the ice after a fight before a conversation starts on who from the AHL replaces him? (I know, never)

    Still, an improvement over SMac, but a waste of the roster spot nonetheless.

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  76. I too liked the fact that Teubert was in on the play and did not look bad doing it.

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  77. How come every time the Oil have a 10 bell scoring opportunity the puck is on Horcoffs stick. FFS

    I know!

    Next thing you know they'll start putting him in the shootout! FFS!

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  79. Kypreos just made a rare good point.

    Hemsky = Kovalev.

    Yep.

    Buyer beware.

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  80. Still, an improvement over SMac,

    I dunno...Is he? Meh.

    An interesting game. If Khabibulin didn't get the shakes this one was likely in the bank. I was amazed at how many cross ice passes the Wild were letting the Oilers make.

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  81. Anyone have access to the Oilers record in one-goal (or two goals with an empty-netter) games?

    Given the Oil are 10W-10L in the "clear victory" standings on C&B, I wonder how big a difference maker a couple more decent veteran blue-liners instead of Peckham/Barker/Teubert would have made to this point in the season...

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  82. Based simply on skating ability, yes, Hordichuk is an improvement over Smac.

    In the ability to positively impact a hockey, maybe not.

    Send him to the A, I say.

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  83. Darcy Hordichuk stats tonight: 2:43 TOI, 0 shots, 0 hits, 0/1=0% in faceoffs, 10 PiM, 2 badly-lost fights & a team-worst Corsi of -4

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  84. @ Bruce

    And you wonder why the Canucks (among other teams) sent him down the road?

    Eager is pretty much in the same mold.

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  85. @DSF: Easy to understandf why teams got rid of him. My wonder is why Oilers signed him.

    I'd rather have Zack Stortini. Better hockey player, and rarely lost fights as badly as Hordy lost Both of his scraps tonight.

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  86. @ Bruce
    I expect Lowe and his sock puppet were responding to fan demands to get "tougher".

    So, they go out and sign Hordichuk and Eager despite their records of wearing out their welcomes wherever they have played.

    I'm not sure that Stortini would be better but he certainly wouldn't have been any worse.

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  87. Just flashed through the game on PVR... Thought the oil put in a decent effort tonight, but two identical coleman cooler goals in the second proves too much to overcome.

    Thought Hall again showed glimpses of a bright, bright future trying to pull this team out of the ditch all through the last half of the game. He will be captain one day (hopefully it's with the oil). Hemsky also looked motivated. As pointed out earlier in the thread, Horcoff should have asked for a pair of hands from Santa.


    Is ELPH back on the menu - too early to make that call?

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  88. Disagree on Hordichuck not contributing tonight. Spent a tonne of time in the box and since Renney seems to believe in the code of playing a 4th line (even if ours sucks) Hall got placed on LW there and was flat out dominant and set up the Smid goal. I always hear theories about "Omark, Gagner, Paajaarvi (for example) killing the softs" but now I know what this means.

    If the kids aren't going to PK, wouldn't sneaking Hall/Nuge/Ebs out in rotation for Hordi/Eager/Lander be a nice way to get them some extra ice time?

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  89. So, after watching that good of a game between these two teams, is it too early to say that this is no longer Jacques Lemaire's team? Because that was downright entertaining.

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