It's kind of a perfect song--female point of view, hopeless, accurate, foreboding and melancholy--but maybe there's one out there I've missed along the way. The best country songs stop you in your tracks and tells you more about yourself than any friend you've known.
I'm betting John Prine. Maybe Lake Marie, but I'll go with Bonnie Raitt's verstion of Angel from Montgomery. Perfect.
I don't know that anyone has improved on AP and Maybelle's original recordings, but that's pretty damn close.
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Nashville is like the opposite Edmonton in NHL terms. Wasted free agent money is a rare item in Music City USA. Nashville plays Edmonton tonight. The Oilers have won 19 times in 49 contests against the Preds. This might be the final time we see Shea Weber in a Nashville uniform (I expect Detroit will grab him), wish he was here.
The kid line is a fun trio and man it's good to see Ryan Smyth bleeding copper and blue one more time. Is Whitney healthy? What about the Ural mountain kid? Does he start? The latest on the 83 injury has him out a couple of weeks, and Gagner should be back before him. Whitney is close, Eager is also day-to-day.
Best country song ever, my vote goes to John Prine's good friend Steve Goodman..."You don't have to call me darlin, darlin'.
ReplyDeleteThere's a best ever Country song?
ReplyDeleteWho knew?
My squeeze owns a horse, but the closest I come to country music is when she leaves the 8-track running in the pickup truck. If it's the usual tape, I skip it forward to the beginning of "Stand by Your Man" before hitting pause. That's the other notable feature of the twin genres Country and Western: outstanding resonators.
ReplyDeleteI did once have a close encounter with K.D. Lang who hails from the outbacks of Stettler (Consort IIRC), a town over from where my father grew up. I visited my grandfather there on the day that CBC had one of their first in depth interviews with the up and coming K.D. She said she believed she was the reincarnation of Patsy Kline. Artists, you know. I've since discovered that Kline rocks. She's got the voice of Picasso, and could have worked in any genre. Every genre has a few of those. You haven't lived until you've heard Freddy Mercury belt out The Rodeo Song.
A few years later I heard K.D. in concert on the CNE grounds. It was a circular podium with fans at every compass point. Four of us where playing bridge in the front row between sets. Math and philosophy geeks, living large. Towards the end of the performance she went around squeezing fingers of all the fans in the front row. I got mine! I gotta say the girl works. My hands are barely that warm and clammy after pulling off the arctic circle cross country ski gloves after a two hour huff.
This was before The Beef, after which mentioning her name in cattle country would shatter windows in a five mile radius. In the era of increasingly fragile pseudonyms, I suspect I shouldn't admit we once exchanged sweat.
Speaking of Contact, there's a funny anecdote from the film critic Anthony Lane (via BWoAK):
On a broiling day, I ran to a screening of Contact, the Jodie Foster flick about messages from another galaxy. I made it for the opening credits, and, panting heavily — which, with all due respect, is not something that I find myself doing that often in Jodie Foster films — I started taking notes. These went "v. gloomy," "odd noir look for sci-fi," "creepy shadows in outdoor scene," and so on. Only after three-quarters of an hour did I remember to remove my dark glasses.
I'll be at the game tonight; first chance to see RNH live. Really excited to see the kids playing together, and who knows, maybe someone named something other than Ryan will score a goal tonight.
ReplyDeleteAlso really interested to follow the blue tonight. Seeing them live will mean I'll get to watch them in the play even when the TV cameras aren't on them. I fear for what I will witness today.
I'm just generally excited since this is the first game I'm going to since Omark's first NHL game last year. I can still see that shootout move perfectly in my mind.
Best Country Song Ever, One of the Best Songs Ever...
ReplyDelete"Four Strong Winds", Ian Tyson
Deadman - too funny by far.
ReplyDeleteDon't know much at all about country music. That being said, id say one of the best country rap tunes would be 8ball & MJG - Memphis City Blues
ReplyDeleteThis is kind of goofy--and on topic only by the rarest coincidence--but I saw Bruce's plea the other day for a better nickname for our kid line. Well, how do you condense Boys on the Bus 2nd ed.?
ReplyDeleteSinger Willie Nelson's bus goes up for auction
Which leads you to the nickname Fresh Willies, if you're willing to go there.
Auction expires in five days! Someone tweet Battman. Next time around, a road trip to Nashville with all the trimmings.
By the way Bruce, very nice work on your first RNH piece.
I hate to agree with Godot, but I agree with Godot.
ReplyDeleteGram Parsons' "Return of the Grievous Angel" gets my vote. Pretty much a perfect song.
ReplyDeleteClassic country, "I Walk The Line" - Johnny Cash. Might be the best song ever written.
ReplyDeleteModern country, "Wagon Wheel" - Old Crow Medicine Show. It's a bit of a cheat though, using Dylan and all.
It seems like good news that Hemmer will only be out for two weeks until you realize that after that he's scheduled to be out again in two weeks.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with the choice of John Prine, though a close second is the cover of Gin and Juice by the Gourds
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, there are loads of better classic 'country songs' but there are probably not many twangy voiced songs that are more fun to listen to or sing along to.
I agree with you Mad Professor.
ReplyDeleteI grew up with one parent who loved the Beatles and the other one Hank Williams. I somehow existed in the middle then I've always stayed there.
For those of you who don't know, to us indians (Not the dot on the forehead ones, but the casino-owning ones), Hank Williams Sr. is our Jesus and Patsy Cline is the virgin Mary while Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard, Buck Owens, Kitty Wells, Charley Pride, Eddie Arnold, Tom T. Hall, Ernest Tubb, George Jones, Conway Twitty, and Tammy Wynette are the twelve disciples.
I remember when my dad and I would be driving home from the bush after a day of fishing, trapping or cutting wood, and he'd turn on the stereo. Driving through the beautiful forests of Northern BC, we'd be listening to a mixed tape when ol' Hank Sr. would come on and my dad, out of habit and reverence, would slow down just a little to make Hank sound even sadder.
That's why "Ramblin Man" by Hank Sr. is my fave.
"Sunday Morning Coming Down"
ReplyDeleteA bit cliche but really raw and sort of universal. It can make a teetotaler feel hungover and depressed about being an alcoholic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EWgTDDMDw
BTW - I always find it funny that there are two terms for 'old style' country music.
ReplyDelete1. Classic Country - term used by individuals who grew up on a farm, in a rural area, or in the rodeo circut.
2. Folk - term used by stoners and quasi-stoners who discovered old style country music in their college years (illegal smile?)
I recognize that there tend to be artists that fall into one group or the other, but stylistically, they are pretty darn close.
Todd Snider is a pretty entertaining guy if you ever get to see him live. Check out 'Statisticians Blues', 'Vinyl records', or 'Doublewide Blues'
John Denver - "Country Roads" is one of my favorites around the fire.
ReplyDeleteGrew up listening to Hank Williams (the talented one, not the dummy), Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline and all of those old greats, thanks to my old man.
ReplyDeleteAsk him and he'll say there hasn't been a good country song since around the time the Oilers were winning Cups. I tend to agree.
Although I do like the about the guy's gal who, when leaving him (taking his pickup truck of course), ran over his dog.
Interested to see the lineups, Eager and Whitney apparantly both thisclose and may go today
"It Ain't Home Til You Take the Wheels Off".
ReplyDeleteFrom the album "Doublewide and Dangerous" by Antsy McLain and the Trailer Park Troubadours.
I'm going to make an ipod playlist of everyone's suggestions in this thread and give it a spin.
ReplyDeleteIt may not have suitable twang to qualify but Take it the Limit by the Eagles is a damn fine song. Randy Meisner's high harmony at the end is sheer perfection.
The wife and I drank a couple bottles of red during Sat night's game and spent 2 hours after belting it out on the karaoke. C&W songs are always the most fun to sing. Good times.
Lee,
ReplyDeleteWine, Karaoke, and the Oilers game?
Can I come over? Sounds like a great time.
Bookie I like Todd Snider to.
For a completely different take, I always like Leslie Spit Treeo's version of Angel from Montgomery. Check it out.
ReplyDeleteAngel from Montgomery. Discovered this song when I saw a group in 1990 do this down at the old Pub Flamingo in Halifax in my university days...were called Leslie Spit Trio from Toronto..knew it was a remake but didnt' realize it was Prine. Pretty different version. I don't think "Hank would have done it this way" though ;)
ReplyDeleteBoneshi, beat me to it.
ReplyDeletebookie, wow, do you ever misunderstand Folk Music.
ReplyDeleteAnd Stoners.
Excellent choice Lowetide. I've been a Prine fan for many, many years and could point his way for a number of songs. Is there any such thing as a "bad" John Prine song really? The Missing Years and Lost Dogs and Mixed Blessings are never far from my CD player.
ReplyDeleteIt's not classic country but one of the best engineered CD's I've ever listened to is KD Lang's Absolute Torch and Twang (1989). Pulling Back the Reins really shows off her power and Nowhere to Stand is just real good stuff. That's a song I would love to hear John Prine cover.
CrazyCoach:
ReplyDeleteMom was Elvis and Dad Herb Alpert and humperdink.
Summers at the farm in Rocky Mountain House:
Waking up in the sleep shack.
Walking to the farm house with bare feet through dew soaked grass.
Walk into the house hearing Floydd Cramer or Charlie Pride. Headed straight to the kitchen to have just baked butter covered buns.
Hear those two and still get the sense of baked buns and have to twiggle my toes.
This discussion lead me to learn Cramer was Elvises studio piano player and sometimes toured.
Neat!
Poison Lovers- Steve Earle & Lucinda Williams
ReplyDeleteInteresting from Puck Daddy about how RNH is not gonna be the next Gretzky but rather the next Crosby (most hated player in the league).
ReplyDeletespOILer - The genre labelled as Folk is pretty wide, but a lot of the music that people label as 'folk or maybe alt-country' overlaps a great deal with a lot of traditional country music. Sure, some guy blowing is Pan Flute is also folk, but if you look at the headliners at most Folk music festivals and even at festivals like North Country Fair, there is an awful lot of 'classic country' going on. John Prine is one of those obvious crossovers.
ReplyDeleteAs per stoners, fair enough, I really meant to refer to stoned university/college students in general as opposed to stoners (a term which has connotations in Alberta to a Fubar-like individual).
I haven't seen it yet, but the guys on the Team 1260 morning show were talking about Derek Van Diest's column in the Edmonton Sun this morning.
ReplyDeleteBefore each game Van Diest breaks down the game in terms of who has the advantage in: forwards, defense, goalie, special teams, coaching.
DVD has the Oilers down as having the advantage in Goal and Defense.
So Rinne, Lindback << Dubnk, Khabby
and
Suter, Weber, Kline, Blum, Laasso, Hillen <<<< Gilbert, Smid, Sutton, Barker, Peckham, Potter.
Amazing.
For his sake I hope that's just a printing error.
I don't think any Oiler D on that list makes Nashville's top 4. Gilbert probably, but their D is very good.
Probably a low scoring game tonight given NAS's D, G and F's.
Anyone seen who is starting or line combo's?
Hope Peckham gets sat and Petry plays.
Also,
I've always had a soft spot for Marty Robbin's El Paso. Tells the timeless story of love and death that involves you every time you hear it.
Kelly Willis's version of "Truckstop Girl" is excellent. But it's not on Youtube so apparently I'm in the minority!
ReplyDeleteCoach: funny you mention OCMS. I knew them back when they were in highschool. They started off as some trucker band, playing in Ithaca and Trumansburg. If you like them you might want to move on to the patriarch of the Ithaca sound -- Johnny Dowd.
Both my wife and I grew up in houses that had CFCW on the radio all the time.
ReplyDeleteOur bedside alarm is set to CFCW because neither of us can imagine waking up to anything else.
The rest of the time we are mostly rock fans when any music is playing.
Anyone else remember Bev Monro's knee slapper award?
Khabby starts as per NHL_Oilers twitter account.
ReplyDeleteExpected.
DD probably starts tomorrow against CAL.
NK starts, via Oilers Twitter.
ReplyDeleteI will get to see the MVP live!
Rickibear, speaking of Floyd Cramer, my mom would carry me in her arms and dance me to sleep to a Floyd Cramer record. "Last Date" still makes my ears perk up when I hear it.
ReplyDeleteSlipper, I hear you on Steve Earle. I have all of his albums and he's the reason I learned to play guitar. I thought he sang Poison LOvers with Siobhan Kennedy?
Not a big Country fan but I like Kenny Rodgers "The Gambler"
ReplyDeleteand my fave is Johhny Cash doing
"Ring of Fire"
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How the Kenyan completed the marathon
Looking forward to seeing Pred's Criag Smith in action. Steal for NSH in 2009 4th round although I think he may have been an overager.
ReplyDeleteAlso hope Ekholm sees the ice. Have heard nothing but good things about the kid.
Eager in tonight, per Tencer.
ReplyDeleteWhitney out, per Gregor
ReplyDeleteTencer...
ReplyDeleteLooks like Peckham might be a healthy scratch tonight for Petry to get back in...
Bookie... Why wouldn't there be? Classic Country developed out of Traditional American Folk music. It would be more surprising if there weren't overlaps and similarities.
ReplyDeleteI know I'm revealing my age here, but I love Johnny Cash's "Hurt"
ReplyDeleteLander on the PP with Smyth and Omark. That would be an interesting line for EV.
ReplyDeleteHall-RNH-Eberle
Smyth-Lander-Omark
MPS-Horcoff-Jones
Eager-Belanger-Pettrell
Hope that is how it shakes out. It then allows Gagner to just step in for Lander once he is healthy, and to have 2 "checking" lines in Horcoff and Belanger.
JW, there's drug abuse in that song, so I think we have to call it Folk, lol. Same with The Gambler above.
ReplyDeleteBuck Owens and Dwight Yoakam: "Streets of Bakersfield". Fantastic song I haven't seen mentioned yet.
ReplyDeleteAs for best country song, how can it not be "The Gambler". I would think that "The Gambler" is the song most people could sing at least a part of, and that to me makes it the best because it is the most memorable.
ReplyDeleteverification word:herhau
- the female version of "Hey Now"
Derek:
ReplyDeleteIf you like Wagon Wheel I'd suggest you check out Matt Anderson's version on YouTube. The guys 300 pounds plus and ther guitar looks like a toothpick but you wanna see passion.
I was raised on Zeppelin and the Who and Rush,but as I got older I listened to more C&W including Patsy Cline and Cash.Love kd lang and Lyle Lovett-I've seen them both at the Folk Fest mulitple times. Big fan of OCMS and really like Steve Earle's cover of Fort Worth Blues...Townes Van Zandt original I believe.
ReplyDeleteAnd I almost forgot Lucinda Williams.
Alot of what makes country good can be found on Cash's "Live at Fulsome Prison" but I don't know any of it is best. KD Lang, Patsy Cline, Hank Williams, Willie Nelson have all been mentioned as top notch stuff too (and they are). But you really have to look hard under some forgotten stones to find some of the best stuff. I'm a little under the weather or I would track it down.
ReplyDeleteWith NK starting, it takes away some of the need to watch tonight so I can concentrate on letting my kids enjoy the game (or the weather) and make my presentations shiny.
Ribs
ReplyDeleteExcellent news on both the Eager AND Peckham fronts.
ermov
Prospect buried in Russian Sledge Hockey League
Speaking of somebody done somebody wrong songs, I was thinking of the arena deal over the weekend (cue snare hit to cymbal crash) and it's not too hard to envision how the conversation in NY might have went.
ReplyDeleteKatz: I need that non-compete clause Mr. Mayor, and oh yeah, the $100 mil upfront, I'm not so sure about that anymore.
Mandel: Now wait just a minute, the people of Edmonton will never stand for this highway robbery. There's other hockey teams out there you know and Edmonton is a FANTASTIC hockey market!
Bettman: That will never happen in a million years Mr. Mandel (winks at Katz). Let this team walk and I'll make Winnipeg's wait seem like a tv timeout for your taxpayers.
Mandel: (glancing towards the door). I can't sell this to council.
Bettman: You can and you will Mr. Mayor. We have confidence in you. Use the old 'your taxes pay for art galleries, so why not an arena? line. It works every time. Now about these annoying Northlands folks...
Mandel: They won't listen to me.
Katz: That's dissapointing Mr. Mayor. We really need that guarantee. How can we possibly compete for the city's concert business with a gorgeous new, centrally located arena? Long pause while Katz fixes Mandel with a stony stare and adjusts his cape.
Ok (sigh), it's not something I was prepared to do (stifles a snicker) but how about this? Give me another $20 mil and we'll let Northlands play in the sandbox. We'll call the $20 mil marketing monies for now and when my...I mean OUR arena is finally unveiled, we'll make a big too-doo of the fact that your $20 mil gave you joint naming rights. We'll call it something like "The Rexall Winter Palace and City of Edmonton House of Blues"
Mandel nods: This could work. Will everyone on council get free season tix?
Katz and Bettman do secret handshake under the desk
Katz: Of course Mr. Mayor, it's been a pleasure doing business with you. You won't regret it.
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ReplyDeleteDefensive pairings: Smid-Gilbert, Barker-Petry, Sutton-Potter. Peckham will participate in warm-up as the team may dress seven D-men
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Tonight's projected forward lines: Hall-NugentHopkins-Eberle, Smyth-Horcoff-Jones, Omark-Belanger-Paajarvi, Eager-Lander-Petrell
Puck Daddy kind of missed the point. Mark Lee sucks and deserves the hate. RNH does not.
ReplyDeleteI would go with the Eagles' "Desperado" as my favourite Country Song, but never spent much time listening to the genre.
DBO, there's got to be dozens of country songs where everyone knows a bit of the chorus. I think that's a difficult criterion to use when choosing The Best Goddamn Country Song of All-Time.
ReplyDeleteknightown-awesome.
ReplyDeleteLowetide. John Prine's "kitchen" version of Thats the Way the World Goes Around, the Happy Enchilada Song. :)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu46mpJC60&feature=related
You missed a few for sure:
ReplyDelete1) Step Inside This House (Guy Clark as covered by Lyle Lovett)
2) The Sky Above, the Mud Below by Tom Russell
3) Gallo del Cielo (Tom Russell, or as covered by Joe Ely)
4) If I needed you (Townes van Zandt - as covered by Lyle Lovett
5) Tulare Dust/They're Tearing the Labor Camps Down medley - Merle Haggard (as covered by Tom Russel)
Oilers site suggests that they may play 7-D, with Peckham drawing back in. I guess that's if Eager isn't fully cleared to play? Very strange.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of the country music discussion, I thought there was only one song. Damn freak peckerheads.
The Peckham thing seems to be entirely a matter of having "toughness" in the lineup. No Hordichuk and no Eager means that Renney might rather have Peckham's rough play around than a useable 12th forward. It's not like they've used their 12th guy anyways.
ReplyDeleteLacy J. Dalton sings a great song about Nashville here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbmrqfQDco&list=FL9NDVAGItTvyYWQlpaeIbBw&index=18
I grew up having to listen to "old tall in the saddle Bev Munroe" as well, but didn't learn to appreciate guys like Cash and Pride until I got a little older. The first country CD I bought was Willie Nelson & Merle Haggard; Pancho & Lefty. Still sounds great on a Sunday morning.
Willie could write a great song or turn another artist's great folk song into a hit like The City of New Orleans or Pancho & Lefty. Another less famous favourite: Billy Joe Shaver - I'm Gonna Live Forever.
Speaking of living forever, I had the horrible thought the goaltending scenario of this season could be a deja vu of the Roloson/Garon show. New, acrobatic kid steals job from creaky vet, only to come unglued and have the vet take it back the next year. God, I hope not.
Wow, sacamano and slipper?
ReplyDeleteNeed to post more of these type questions LT, its like Old Home Week.
The 1260 Nooner guy is having a name the "Kid Line" contest.
ReplyDeleteI vote for "Roadkill"
Absolutely not "King of the Road" by Roger Miller
Not a single vote for "Elvira"?
ReplyDeleteMan, the Oilers can't put 6 actual NHL players out on the blue every game, now they may try to put seven?
ReplyDeleteI mean, I know this is injury(Eager) related, but that is still deserving of a chuckle and a facepalm, all at the same time.
word verification: hypehoth. Where we hype the battle of Hoth.
Cannot wait until whoever is healthy enough to give the Swedes a non-defensive center.
ReplyDeleteBelanger and Horcoff can't keep up on their breakout play.
Happy Oilers are 1-1-1; tonight's game another Big one...
ReplyDeleteKid Line is Incredible and will only get better and better until we see them playing as a unit in the Olympics.
C+W?
ReplyDeleteRing of Fire does it for me.
Another one.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Lyle Lovett..."You Can Have My Girl But Don't Touch My Hat" from the album "The Road to Ensenada".
Backup vocals provided by such luminaries as Jackson Browne and Randy Newman.
If Eager is again unready to play and we end up icing seven defencemen, it seems absolutely criminal that Hartikaenen has not been recalled.
ReplyDeleteapparently Petrell is feeling iffy for tonight, just a bug or something by the sounds of it
ReplyDeletePretty much everything from Levon Helm's "Dirt Farmer" album qualifies as classic country, especially his version of the Buddy Miller song, "Wide River to Cross", which pretty much sums up the long journey the Oilers must make to return to being a playoff contender.
ReplyDeleteHow about calling the Hall/Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle line HUGE? Has anyone else made this suggestion?
ReplyDeleteI swilled some letters around over coffee this morning. Don't think I have a winner, but I had some fun.
ReplyDeleteVersion 1: Geordi, Jordie, and Lordy.
Version 2: Visor, Wiser, and Kaiser.
But not until Hall returns to post-xmas form and only if LT releases his special word.
Brought to you by the letter H: Herr Jordan and the Hellhops.
Anyone who digs Highlander can't complain too much about not making sense. Somehow the word Hellhops summons combined imagery from The Shining and Barton Fink. "You rang, sir? I'll fetch your box."
Ebs I believe is the senior Dalmatian in our lusty production of Dalmatians 101 so he gets first billing. If he could skate like either of his mates he could have been Hare Jordan.
Copious youth coming of age: Binge Nehi Bar Mitzvah. Radar the rookie gets his fizz on. Yes, Hasidic pointilism is a novel form.
Missing tooth: Ebb and Snow (for how hard Hall goes to the net). RNH must have been run over by the Zamboni.
Prophecy repeated 1: Second comet trio.
Prophecy repeated 2: Hallsy's comets.
No scansion in the 2nd version. Needs something I can't supply.
Touchpass breakout: Nudge and Hauls. This time Eberle slipped under the Zoni.
Development takes time: Stu's rubies.
And my personal favorite, for brevity alone: The Ebriotes.
Embryo (work in progress) + symbiote (instant chemistry).
Plays on the word "ebb" (obviously from Eberle, with a hint of waxing supreme), "brio" (fizz with elbows), and "riot" (the good kind, without the film at eleven, thank you very much, you classless goons).
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ReplyDeleteDoes a trade with Ottawa just make too much sense for it to happen? They're riding the rebuild train from the opposite direction (i.e. with a number of D prospects hitting the lineup while they await O prospects to develop). Would it be possible to pry out 1 of Karlsson, Rundblad or Cowen for 1 of Gagner, MPS or Omark?
ReplyDeleteThe same could be said of Florida though their prospects (Gudbranson, Ellerby, Kulikov) don't seem to have the same pedigree as the Sens.
I suspect you could pry any of these 6 D away (with the possible exception of Karlsson) with Eberle, but would you consider that an overpay?
People talk about the most sung country song?
ReplyDeleteNo clue!
but man every karaoke place. Rocky top!
How many artists have covered it? Phish, The Schwag, Dillard & Clark, Parton, Urban, Reggae woman.
How many musical genres? I have listened to: Country, Bluegrass, Rock, Ska, Reggae, Band, Jazz, Folk, Metal
Christ they even played it at the Rebar and Roost!
I can say I have sung it!
@Lee
ReplyDeleteIf Eberle is ever traded, the fan base would crucify management, myself included. I don't care if it's Weber coming back the other way.
I would sooner trade Hall, I believe Eberle to be the more complete player.
The Hat Trick Line.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I'm not sure, which kids would bring in a decent return for a proper dman.
ReplyDeleteOmark won't get us much and not sure what he is capable of yet.
Paajarvi has to be hands off as well, his skills are not easily duplicated.
I want to see 1 more full season of Gagner, I believe he will be an ideal 1st/2nd line center.
Hartikainen, been waiting forever for a decent power forward to develop, he's not going anywhere.
Which leaves Lander, possibly Lander ++ for a decent top 4 d-man?
"The Oil's back in town" by Corb Lund - best ever Oilers country song.
ReplyDeleteI don't listen to a lot of country but when I do, I drink "Big Ol' Dirty Tattoo" and "Number Four" by the United Steel Workers of Montreal.
"burgo" by the Word Verifications is a great non-song about Argentine burglars too.
I think there's something to the "Rite" line. That seems to hold some magic for me. And because it's so easy for the "rite' line to cause riots, make the right plays, and leave the fans feeling alright...
ReplyDeleteNow, for some random-association for good nicknames...
Hall - Hallrite - alright - alight - "Light"
Eberle - Eberite - amberite - "Amber"
Nugent-Hopkins - Nu-rite - Do-right - "Dudley"
Somehow having Eberle's name come out as Amber makes me laugh, especially considering how unisex the name Jordan has become over the last few years.
scilgra: the unholy union of scylla and hydra that the greeks feared so much they never wrote about it, and who's fate has been lost in the sea of time.
The Kid Line seems to be getting the most press at the moment.
ReplyDeleteOiler fans meanwhile can't wait for the next game to start. Three of the very best hockey forwards on earth don't come very often, lol.
BTW: Those Oiler hats the players are wearing this year are brutal.
ReplyDeleteInstead of KID line how about the UPS line
ReplyDeleteBecause they really deliver
emoopery
Sad cow condition
I know I'm revealing my age here, but I love Johnny Cash's "Hurt"
ReplyDeleteIf you didn't mean to write "Johnny Cash's cover of NIN's Hurt" then you really are showing your age. Of 7. ;)
I'd go with Cash's "Folsom Prison Blues" or "Boy Named Sue", though I'm not a huge country fan. Like folk, though ;) Prine's "Some humans ain't human" is another favorite.
Oh, I also second "Four Strong Winds." The artists sing it at the end of Folk Fest every year. To be honest, the year Tyson did it was one of the worst, IMO.
ReplyDeleteIf you have :
ReplyDeleteWhitney - x
Smid - Gilbert
Sutton/Peckham/Barker - Petry
Then you don't absolutely have to have a partner with Whitney who is also a good puck mover.
You can get by with a Orpik/Michalek type who won't cost you what a Suter/Webber will. (if they are even available)
You also want to trade for a D who is a 1st/2nd pairing guy TODAY, not projected to be one.
The Oiler forwards are ready to start winning pretty quick, you don't want projection, but a 25/26 year old guy who can play 25min a night for the next 4-5 years for you.
spOILer:
ReplyDelete//JW, there's drug abuse in that song, so I think we have to call it Folk, lol. Same with The Gambler above.//
I think drug and alcohol abuse historically was more prevalent amongst the country side of roots music than the folkie side.
The Nail has 25 pts in 10 games so far in the OHL. Multiply that by 6 and he finishes with 150 pts. Thats getting close to Crosby (168pts) territory.
ReplyDeleteAre we sure we should not be hoping for another #1 overall?
Back before the Meatpacking District in Manhattan got gentrified, there was a dive down there called The Village Idiot that was the best bar in New York.
ReplyDeleteIt was dirty and run down and offered $5 pitchers and $2 shots all day every day. It had a couple of pool tables and a jukebox that played nothing but old school country. It had smokin' hot waitresses who line danced on the bar whenever The Devil Went Down to Georgia came on (the bar in the movie Coyote Ugly was largely based on the Village Idiot and a couple of other dives in the Meatpacking District). And best of all, it was one of the bars in Manhattan where no one was pretentious or worried about what you were wearing - everyone there just wanted to have a good time drinking cheap beer listening to great music.
I had so many great times in that bar. Sadly as the Meatpacking District got trendy, the landlord quadrupled the rent and the owner had to sell up. I think the place is and Apple Store now...
Godot, agreed on drugs (including alcohol) being more associated with Country than Folk. That was my original point to Bookie. There is the gospel/spiritual side to both too, though.
ReplyDeleteWoodguy: a sound analysis, but what you're talking about comes with a cost either in sizeable UFA dollars or good pieces in a trade. What would you be comfortable sending the other way?
ReplyDeleteDucey: even if tanking were a good idea (and given the way Nail is playing, it might be), the Oilers would need a lot of help from the injury bug to get close enough to the bottom of the league to make it happen (assuming no lottery luck). Assuming even moderate health, Edmonton should be better than at least Ottawa and one of Florida or Winnipeg. Colorado (despite their hot start), Phoenix and even Columbus may also be in the mix for the bottom.
Three first overall picks playing on the same line! That would be the greatest thing ever, right¿¿¿¿
ReplyDeleteGreat songs in this thread. My daughter is mad I didn't include any Neil Young (specifically Cripple Creek Ferry and Helpless).
ReplyDeleteSo, there's a few. :-)
I think "the night the barn burned down" by george fox is a classic.
ReplyDeleteI remember years ago me and my sister driving back home for a long weekend to see Mom - a nice pot of chicken heart stew was at the ready along with some homemade bread - and that Fox song came on and me and my sister started laughing and then I started mocking the voice and making up lyrics and both of us laughed for a long time.
An old country song that I really like is "if hollywood don't need you" by don williams.
By the way, there's a great line in Parsons' 'Return of the Grievous Angel' that could well apply to Stauffer's et. al. advocacy for Katz' shiny new rink: "And the man on the radio won't leave me alone. He wants to take my money for something that I've never been shown." As an Edmonton ex-pat now living in Toronto (gasp!), it's been 'fun' watching the debate from afar.
ReplyDeleteLove Gram Parsons. The Byrds stuff, but especially the Burrito stuff like Sin City. Solo too. Man. It kills me the Eagles ran off with all the gold Parsons earned.
ReplyDeletePricks.
LT: He's another one who died to young, for sure. Country music and Oiler fandom seem to go together quite well these days. My only beef with this thread is that you made me pick a favourite!
ReplyDeleteMarty Robbins, voice as smooth as silk my dad used to say. Had a tape of his in his old mercury marquis. El Paso, A White Sportcoat I must say have grown on me (cringed hearing them as a kid).
ReplyDeleteJake
ReplyDeleteMarty's the best.
Cool water, big iron, devil woman, my woman my wife, hangin tree.
Tell those stories!
there are no perfect country songs, because the whole charm of them is their imperfections- the cracks and flaws and rawness of the form. i think that's the reason country (like jazz) is so rich in multiple versions of classic tracks, each remarkable in it's own way, none necessarily better than the others.
ReplyDeletethat said, rex's blues.
Bunz with a tidy .920SP so far this season in the Hat.
ReplyDeleteJust watching the Avs, they might not make the playoffs but they have about 20 defensemen who can move the puck that I've never heard of.
ReplyDeleteJust checking out the zone starts so far this season, Gilbert & Horcoff are earning their keep.
ReplyDeleteToo bad they're no damn good. :-)
It's true what bookie said; there's tons of college kids listening to old country and calling it folk so when someone says "what do you listen to?" they don't have to answer "country." Also the big trend in indie these days is these friggin' beard and banjo bands.
ReplyDeleteJohnny Cash fans and American Records did a great job of making Cash an iconic figure culturally leading to a lot of tshirts and tattoos...he sucks. not one good song.
Love Gram Parsons/Burritos/SOTR own all of it!
Blogger Lowetide said...
ReplyDeleteJust checking out the zone starts so far this season, Gilbert & Horcoff are earning their keep.
When did they stop deciding games by the team who gets the most goals?
I'll stay on the Barker Bandwagon until December.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, one of these nights in the next 8-10 games these geniuses are going to blow some poor NHL team right out of the rink.
ReplyDeleteThats a good bet, lol.
Vince: Sort of true.
ReplyDeleteUsually people say the artist's name.
But we do refer it as folk, being most of us associate with older music (like Dylan).
Three games in, and I still haven't seen anyone whip this team yet.
ReplyDeleteDSF's been ill.
ReplyDeletedelooper - It's not the sound, it's the song. Framing a song about getting home to your girl around a throw-away Dylan chorus he never finished, it's, I don't know how to describe it, but it's amazing.
ReplyDeleteKT - well aware of Andersen. His version of "Ain't No Sunshine" is the only one that rates against the original
Great songs in this thread. My daughter is mad I didn't include any Neil Young (specifically Cripple Creek Ferry and Helpless).
ReplyDeleteI think Four Strong Winds can qualify as our Neil Young connection, as it's probably almost as associated with him as with Ian Tyson, in the popular imagination.
As for your daughter's suggestions, Cripple Creek Ferry's not good enough, and Helpless isn't country enough.
Hmmm. Isn't there a big old steel guitar in Helpless?
ReplyDeleteLike a dog without a bone, riders on the storm.
ReplyDeleteLT...
ReplyDeleteI don't get that one. Everybody covered everybody in Country, but it's The Eagles who are pricks? They stole from Steve Young too, but I gotta say Seven Bridges Road might be my favorite Country song.
Vince... First of all old country is part of Folk music, or at the very least, comes from it. And, while I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure Bookie was referring to the Beat/Hip/Flower Generation. Y'know... The Baby Boomers before they sold out and became Yuppies.
Just looked it up, apparently not. Okay, Four Strong Winds by Neil Young, but I want to include Harvest Moon too.
ReplyDeletePop country is the bane of humankinds existence.
ReplyDeleteI love folk music, country and folk are not one in the same. There are some acts that blur the line, kinda like Sarah Harmer. I dig Sarah Harmer.
if "helpless" isn't country song someone please explain country music to me.
ReplyDeleteJust to be sure and not throw shit around:
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly does Bob qualify as?
Hurricane's one of my favorite songs.
spOILer: Eagles were fine until Meissner left (he's the one who sang Take it To The Limit) but their lyrics were never as good as the harmonies.
ReplyDeleteAs for folk/country, agreed. Musicians don't seem to care, don't think we should either. I mean, what genre is Tom Waits?
Dylan is Folk. Not country.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure Tom Waits IS a genre.
ReplyDeleteTom Waits is grumpy old man genre.
ReplyDeleteDylan is whatever he is at the moment.
ReplyDeleteLT
ReplyDeleteit's true labelling music with word or two is a bad thing and it's unlikely any artist would be satified using a word two to describe what they do....but these words are usually necessary to converse about music. the mistake is writing off something just because it might come with a word like "country", "rap" or "punk" attached.
Danny...checkout Dylans; "Nashville Skyline"...he actually sings, and it's country
ReplyDeleteIm partial to the old-timey harmony thing with a guitar accom... accomp
ReplyDeleteSince we seem to be stretching the envelope...nothing is more country than bluegrass.
ReplyDeleteAlison Krauss and Union Station...pure magic.
Bluegrass is where folk and country blur. They both have roots in there.
ReplyDeleteCountry & Western is more of what we call 'country' today, and that's something that was invented by record labels.
Did Peckham get a HS?
ReplyDeleteThe so-called "folkies" didn't think Dylan was doing folk when he picked up an electric guitar.
ReplyDeleteMusical boundaries are fluid and labelling musicians is sort of silly.
Country, Appalachian folk, blues, gospel.etc etc can sort of generically be called roots music.
Cross-pollenization is good.
Yoakam.
ReplyDeleteA fun video for fans of Tom Waits
ReplyDeleteI miss Lorieau.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite line in Country is from Folsom Prison, " I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die". To me that line encapsulates the noir notion of a world primarily ruled by capricious Fate. Like the Harmonica Scene from Once Upon a Time in the West. Like watching Oilers hockey since the SCF.
ReplyDeleteReally like Dwight, because he loved Buck Owens and Buck Owens was golden. He and Don Rich had those wonderful harmonies, especially on Together Again.
ReplyDeleteOkay, that's one we have to include too. :-)
What about Carmelita by Warren Zevon? Is that country?
Did Lorieau retire? He had a nice optometry business, I think it was near the University.
ReplyDeleteOiler kids playing a lot in the offensive zone so far, and now a penalty. At this rate, their Corsi's are going to be crazy after 20 games, but I wonder how their zone starts will look.
ReplyDeleteDid Lorieau retire? He had a nice optometry business, I think it was near the University.
ReplyDeleteUniversity Optical - still there, I think. As of a couple of years ago, his nephew was in the process of taking it over.
Terrible call on Weber.
ReplyDelete2min for being strong?
LT- yes 24 is HS.
Smid - 2min for playing hockey- make up call I hope and not the way the game will be called
ReplyDeleteCheeky little pick on the Nashville power-play.
ReplyDeleteSmid's call was worse...
ReplyDeleteBulin leaving out some juicy rebound so far
Eberle could probably have 5 goals this season already. He's had 3 of the chances so far this period.
ReplyDeletePeckham has not played well so far this season, maybe this will be a wakeup call (or he's hurt).
ReplyDeleteEither way, good that they brought Petry back in. I don't know that he deserved his HS (despite that one wonky pass).
Any find a working link to this game? The usual links seem to be unavailable...
ReplyDeleteit kinda seems like there is vaseline on the camera but it's ok,
ReplyDeletehttp://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer.php?t=castamp&c=atdhe22s&lang=en&eid=91652&lid=2516&ci=2&si=2
http://www.sportshunter.me/watch/86600/1/watch-edmonton-oilers-vs-nashville-predators.html
ReplyDeletedeloop-yes,Lorieau retired at the end of last season.
ReplyDeleteMelancholy with the moniker of the year, narrowly beating out "Steve Smith" in a close vote.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: can you name three better forwards than RNH so far tonight?
Bendelson try this for a link to the game:
ReplyDeletehttp://livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=castamp&c=atdhe22s&lang=en
What about the Wes Montgomery cover of "Ring of Fire"
ReplyDeleteCarmelita sounds like country but has too many references to heroin and welfare to be country, no?
ReplyDelete:)
Lowetide,
ReplyDeleteGlad you like it. Huge fan of the blog - read it daily, thanks for sharing your unique insights and stories.
Eberle so far this year is reminding me of Horcoff a couple years back where he had all sorts of chances but couldn't seem to find twine. I am sure that will not continue to be the case.
Eberle has the art of making a pick look like not a pick down, doesn't he? He had a sweet one last game too.
ReplyDeletewww.hockeystreams.com is what I have been using the last 2 years. Costs money but you get 720p flash streams along with iPad/iPhone streams as well. Game archives too.
ReplyDeleteJim Vandermeer got the assist. The Oilers rewarded him by making sure SJS signed him. Take that AYB!
ReplyDeleteword ver: sapherso, fake sapphire.
Thanks for the suggestions but i'm getting no luck from all the links above.
ReplyDeleteStrange as I have had great feeds in the previous games.
server not found errors everywhere tonight.
Ebs has the new release, he just hasn't found the range yet.
ReplyDeleteNice shift by 23.
ReplyDeleteLots of bruises there, but never gave up on it.
Strong man.
Eager with wheels!
ReplyDeleteAlso, I need to read about icing. why was that icing?
Bendelson, the links work, for some reason blogger is inserting it's stupid url into the link url.
ReplyDeleteTry copying and pasting the following into your browser, sans quotation marks:
"livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=castamp&c=atdhe22s&lang=en"
1st Intermission though.
anyone with a link that works and doesn't have pop ups?
ReplyDeleteCan anyone else on our team own Weber in a corner? Dont think so. 23 is awesome.
ReplyDeleteHow come the Jets get Sarah Orlesky and we get Gene?
ReplyDeleteNice shift by Omark. Trade him and regret it Tambo.
ReplyDeleteYeah that's pretty unfair about Orlesky. I'd settle for Leah Hextall if Gene wants to call it a career.
ReplyDeletePut Omark with Smyth-Horcoff.
ReplyDeleteSportsnets music sounds like an interlude to CBCs live coverage to a Papal visit.
ReplyDeleteKris, I agree. He's more Hemsky-like. And then Jones can go to the net for Paajarvi and Backache Belanger.
ReplyDeleteI played some Tom Waits songs on youtube (not the mashup I linked to) and my 2 1/2 year old daughter asked me to play "more songs by cookie monster"
ReplyDeleteAwesome.
argh I'm trapped in a hotel with little to do and this game is still waaay too boring so I've been playing with a lamp.
ReplyDeleteHows about laying with a tramp instead?
ReplyDeleteGino didn't even stretch for that pun.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with the goofs on this panel. Their PP has had way more moving of the skates this year so far.
I haven't been able to open a drawer in a hotel room since No Country for Old Men.
ReplyDeleteSmarmy, which Country song is that?
ReplyDeleteWell, sometimes things just work out well... no link still, but upon further investigation its on NHL centre ice for free tonight.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know if this is all month?
I just checked in for the first time and the 100 comment run on country music is what makes this place awesome.
ReplyDeleteClap clap
Smarmy Boss said...
ReplyDeleteargh I'm trapped in a hotel with little to do and this game is still waaay too boring so I've been playing with a lamp.
Look down Smarmy.
Bend-til Oct 23
ReplyDeleteBeen enjoying the freebie so far this season.
Not sure what I'm going to do after this weekend.
Strudwick. The answer is strudwiick.
ReplyDeleteDSF that takes 5 minutes. I've been in this room for near 6 hours. (There is no point going out I'm in the hinterlands)
ReplyDeleteThanks Gerta.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised I didn't know this before tonight...
Not paying attention.
Smyth wins the face off the way only he can.
ReplyDeleteMVP!
Well that's the game. Maybe I'll fire up the Kindle and resume reading some trashy novel.
ReplyDeleteThe Bulin Fail
ReplyDeleteIf Horcoff and Smyth are take the tough opposition and the awful zone starts, Paarjarvi makes more sense than Omark.
ReplyDeleteOmark got himself pressboxed after one game with Horcoff in that role.
I had no idea Eager had wheels like that..
ReplyDeleteFast make up call for missing the pass interference on Eager who never touched the football.
ReplyDeleteAnother nice shift by Linus.
ReplyDeleteOmark might not be worth the entire price of admission, but he covers a hell of a lot of the cost.
ReplyDeleteitsaleaf: That's why he was a 1st rounder.
ReplyDelete20 looks like he's skating better and figuring out how to play with 91 and 23.
ReplyDeleteIf Lemaire killed hockey, Trotz stepped on its neck to make sure it was dead.
Happy Birthday, Jakester!
ReplyDeleteI agree. 20 has looked more involved this game.
ReplyDeleteWoodguy: for some reason, I don't find Nashville quite so egregious as Minnesota. Nashville gets by with some very good defencemen and goaltending. With the Wild, there's always tons of bodies in the neutral zone and a lot of the little hooks and holds that people are getting away with more.
ReplyDeleteIn other words, the Preds are a very defensive team; the Wild are a good for nothing Lemaire demon team.
Gibby has been cheatin for O all game.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like teams are alright with letting us dink around in their corners and think ourselves "strong on the puck"
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