This fall we can guess the opening night roster but there's going to be a lot of fluidity to the final cuts. There's every chance the Oilers make a late pre-season deal to offload a prospect or two before exposing them to waivers.
In the first training camp item for 2011 on this blog, I'll post the 23 names "most likely" to break camp with the big club for 2011-12.
- G Devan Dubnyk: Big man played well in his rookie season and has earned the chance to be the starter. Coach Renney has stated that Khabibulin enters TC as the starter, but it's a matter of DD's consistency versus NK's age and injuries. My guess is Dubnyk plays 40-50 games.
- G Nikolai Khabibulin: He's coming off a pretty bad year in every way and one suspects NK will arrive determined. The problem is that he hasn't been terribly effective even when healthy and the veteran has a lot of miles on him. He's at the stage of his career where relying on him is not a good idea, but sometimes old goalies surprise. My guess is that he suffers an injury sometime before Christmas.
- D Ryan Whitney: Despite the recent rut issue and re-tweaking of the injury let's place him on the opening night roster (mostly because the alternative is depressing). Whitney is an actual NHL defenseman, and though we can't expect a half-season like 10-11 he should be a quality player for this team when able.
- D Tom Gilbert: Despite much of the fanbase wishing he would go away, Gilbert is a key member of the blue. He'll play heavy minutes at evens, powerplay and penalty-kill, and probably with a partner who has fewer than 150 games NHL experience.
- D Cam Barker: New hire should get a good opportunity to show his stuff, especially early in the season. Hopefully we'll read stories in training camp about Barker arriving in great shape, being among the most fit players on the roster and see a determined defender through pre-season. He was a draft day star, so this isn't his last chance Texaco but it is probably his last good chance and last big contract (should he fail).
- D Ladislav Smid: Smid is now at a point where NHL experience becomes a major plus and has in fact shown some nice things in the last two seasons. He'll be a key player on defense this season, if he can stay healthy and become just a little more consistent it will make a difference to the GA total.
- D Theo Peckham: It could be a big year for the roughian. Peckham played quite a bit in elevated air this past season and survived. He's miles from flourishing but if thrust into the role again it'll be interesting to see if there's improvement. Many have suggested he's merely a depth defender, but if he can play evens and penalty-kill in important situations we're talking about something else again.
- D Andy Sutton: I have him in a 5-6 role, but also wonder if coach Renney might put the two new hires (Sutton-Barker) together in hopes of seeing them develop as a top 4 pairing. It's possible, and we know Sutton will be a major PK player for the Oilers based on past seasons.
- D Taylor Chorney: We know the Oilers value this player and we know he is eligible for waivers. A guess would be that if Jeff Petry outperforms during pre-season (certainly possible) the Oilers see if they can make a deal. It could go the way of Rob Schremp (exposure and losing player) or Theo Peckham (keeping player on roster) and we have to allow for injury to one of the starting 6 too.
- C Sam Gagner: This is a season for Gagner to establish himself as a center who can post offense while also playing against tougher competition. I can't see a scenario where Gagner doesn't get quality linemates and am looking forward to seeing how things turn out for him.
- C Shawn Horcoff: He finally has some help and that should mean improved boxcars and overall performance. He's now at an age where injuries become more of a factor and I think his PP career is likely over.
- C Eric Belanger: A wonderful addition. Belanger can play in all situations and will make himself useful even if he's getting 4line EV minutes. My guess is that through injury and slumps he emerges as a player who the coach relies on in all situations.
- C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: RNH is a strong candidate to at least break camp with the Oilers and I think he'll perform well enough to stay all year. Should he stumble, the list of possible replacements is long and impressive. Anton Lander, Chris VandeVelde, Ryan O'Marra, Tanner House and others wait in the wings.
- L Taylor Hall: I've projected Hall to lead the Oilers in goals and checking around the internet it looks like most feel he'll have a strong year. Hall is the franchise.
- L Magnus Paajarvi: Swede has some competition for playing time on the portside both at evens and PP. A good thing--he should earn his minutes--but he'll slot into the top 9 somehow and should improve in year 2 (he'll get more playing time and better linemates).
- L Ryan Smyth: Man it feels good to place his name back onto the Oiler lineup. Smyth's PP time has decreased in recent years and I think the club will need him badly at evens and PK. Either way, he was much needed and most welcome.
- L Ben Eager: Back in the olden days, NHL enforcers were also hockey players (probably because 9 forwards played regular shifts and two were for injury replacement and PK). Eager is a player who from time to time may move up the depth chart. Perhaps more than any new forward this side of Ryan Smyth, Eager will change the tone and attitude of the Oilers.
- L Darcy Hordichuk: A welcome addition from my pov because he's an extreme improvement in the hockey disciplines over the previous enforcer. He's not going to score 10 goals, or even 2, but Hordichuk can make and take a pass.
- R Ales Hemsky: Heading into his walk year and very unlikely to finish 11-12 as an Oiler. We haven't heard a word about contract talks and he's well older than the cluster. I still hold out hope that Edmonton will sign him as "the Oilers Alfredsson" but it's a distant bell for the organization. They're just waiting for everyone to see him healthy before pulling the trigger.
- R Jordan Eberle: Emerging talent who had a wonderful rookie season. Eberle is a smart player who should become a 2-way talent on the top 2 lines of a very good NHL team. Jordan Eberle as the new Ryan Smyth? He's a heart and soul guy and already a fan favorite.
- R Linus Omark: Oh doctor. This young man is to the Oilers what Cliff Johnson and John Mayberry were to the Houston Astros in the early 1970's. The lesson is you better know what you have before flushing it or 5 years from now you're going to have Art Howe at first base while the guys you drafted are beating hell out of the ball in other towns. Omark is a huge test for the Oilers and Steve Tambellini. Here's hoping the organization gives him a complete season in a suitable role.
- R Ryan Jones: He's in tough, he really is. Jones not only has Hemsky, Eberle and Omark ahead of him (it's worse on LW), but Hartikainen is going to do impressive things in camp and the coach is going to notice. I think he'll find a role on the 4line as an energy player and be used as a penalty-killer. He's about to get lost in the flood of prospects.
- R Gilbert Brule: He's in a terrible spot. Brule's health issues make him unlikely to be traded, and yet the coach is probably going to want to hit the ice with people he can count on. Even if he arrives at camp in great shape and performs well in pre-season finding a role may be difficult, and we don't know how the organization feels about how the trade didn't go down. At the very least there are huge questions regarding Brule's future.
Can't wait for training camp.
Nation Radio is back today at noon and it's a jam packed episode. Scheduled to appear:
- Julian from Pension Plan Puppets. We'll discuss Wade Belak's career and his impact on teammates, fans and the communities he played in. We'll try to discuss the issue of depression without getting ahead of the story (as it is still developing).
- Ted Wyman from the Winnipeg Sun. We'll discuss the Dustin Byfuglien's boating career, the city of Winnipeg and building excitement there and ask about Zack Bogosian's availability.
- Cam Moon from the Red Deer Rebels. We'll talk about RNH and his chances of making the Oilers, and I'll also ask about rookie camp invite Brett Ferguson.
- Corey Graham from the Edmonton Oil Kings: PBP man will give us an update on the Oil Kings and specifically young Oiler pick Martin Gernat. There's a buzz about him and Corey will fill us in.
- Rob Soria from Oil Drop. During the first 26 or show Nation Radio shows I've tried to feature many of the established Oiler blogs. Rob is the first of the "newer" blogs we'll profile and if we have time (Rob's a busy guy) we'll talk about Oil Drop.

"Ruffian" my friend. Ruffian.
ReplyDeleteI like mine better. :-)
ReplyDeleteThen "roughian" it shall be. You may even get cited in the Oxford you trend-setter you.
ReplyDeleteLol. No one picked up on the "Al Gore" so one doubts it. :-)
ReplyDelete4 - Gilbert's basically a pansy.
ReplyDeleteSeeing another OIler getting his ass handed to him less than 10 feet away from this "defender" looking like a deer in the headlights...proves it.
11 - PP!? Horcoff is a dud...a total dud offensively.
19- He wants to walk? Good - bye.
21 - Great prospect - keep him!
Yeah! Let's let Steve MacIntyre play defense! Woot woot!
ReplyDeleteYou are right LT, Omark is going to be a very important player for the Oilers. Perhaps not so much on the ice as off it. As you have said before good teams keep and develop these players, bad teams trade them away for nothing.
ReplyDeleteYou can tell from the interviews with Omark he gets it now, any worries that he was not willing to do what it takes to make the NHL should be a distant bell. This kid understands now that the organization sent him down for a reason and he grew while down in the AHL. We might not agree with who them kept up instead of Omark but he did learn while he was down there.
Having a 6-goal game certainly didn't 'hurt' his development.
Linus will be the litmus test for this organization.
Litmus Omark?
ReplyDeleteI keep forgetting we have Belanger and Smyth now...if only we had their defensive equivalents. Let's call them Colin White and Joni Pitkanen. That'd be some team...
ReplyDeleteI really don't see why anyone would pick up Taylor Chorney; or why any of us would care if they did. I was advocating to trade him 2 years ago when he was still more of an unknown and perhaps someone thought he had some talent. He's too incomplete and not good enough at any one thing.
I'm really really hoping and thinking that Hartikainen has a great camp and makes this team.
Also, if Eberle plays with Hemsky and Hall doesn't, he will outscore him. He's still the better hockey player at this stage.
I may be in the minority, but I like Chorney lots. He's missed his window a couple of times for various reasons, but if we were talking in draft speak, we would comment on his great tools. He is a little tentative coming out of the zone which I attribute to lack of experience, but can make a great first pass when he is feeling confident. He's a ++skater with incredible acceleration over a short distance things that generally can't be taught (although I realize the Couturier wagon may disagree). He makes mistakes, all defenders do, but those should ease up with time. He is a tireless worker on the boards, and sometimes his enthusiasm leaves him out of position. Again, a good problem to have and fixable. Try teaching a gifted player to put in a good effort when it's not in their genes. Impossible.
ReplyDeleteHis outer marker could easily be second pairing. I can understand why the Oilers don't want to give up on him at this point. Defenders take time. I would argue that Smid is a quality NHL defender at this point in his career, but look how long it took for us to say that.
Peckham also took a long route to the NHL, yet I think we can all see his potential now. I doubt Peckham would have survived waivers. Chorney is smaller, so he may clear, but it would be a shame to lose him at this point after investing so much. I think he'll have a career somewhere regardless.
Chorney would clear, IMO. You have to play him if you claim him.
ReplyDeleteWhich NHL top 7 would Chorney crack?
Schremp was different. It's easier to bury a seriously flawed forward with some potential than it is a defenseman given all the roster spots. (And Schremp had more pedigree, too.)
That makes me think NHL GM's should aim at having 8 veteran D-men on the roster at the start of the season. You can always call up AHL'ers to round out your forward lines, but given injuries, you just can't have too many able D-men on the active roster.
DSF:
ReplyDeleteI was also toying with "The way they handle Linus will be a high water (O)mark for the organization for which to compare non-traditional prospects" but decided against it.
Looks like I should of gone with my gut.
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ReplyDeleteGood points kris.
ReplyDeleteWhich NHL top 7 D would he crack? We don't have to look too far since we may have the worst D in the league. I would put him at ~7 on our current depth chart (Whitney, Gilbert, Smid, Petry, Barker, Peckham, Chorney in that order), and lots of potential to climb to number 5 on the chart if he shows well which he has the tools to do. I'm not saying we evaluate forever, but I think he deserves 40-50 games at this point and hopefully it will be more clear if he is going to be a valuable part of the future here.
Sutton looks like about a 10 on our depth chart, but he'll get a long look because of his size and the fans love size. After Smyth, most of what I have heard about the Oilers from the average fan in my world this offseason is Andy Sutton. I haven't heard a whiff about Belanger, arguably the offseason's best move. Tambellini knows what the fans want to see on the roster, and to some extent he covets a fridge or too himself. However, Tambellni and the fans are smart enough to see a defensive liability and it won't take long for them to turn on the shiny new thing. I'm still hoping LT's prophecy about a trade of Sutton at trading camp comes true. That would be a Godsend for this depth chart and the important development of our younger D.
Regarding Omark in LT's post, I 100% agree. The Oilers trade Linus at their own peril. I suspect he is this cluster's Miro Satan. Drafted late, oozed potential, and with that potential bubbling under, traded to Buffalo for Craig Millar and Barrie Moore. Remember Millar and Moore?
Hey LT, thank you very much for adding me to the Oiler Blog list on your site, even if it was just to stop me from shamelessly advertising in your comment section, haha.
ReplyDeleteashley, do you have a crush on chorney? his mother?
ReplyDeletethose are rose colored glasses
Jfry,
ReplyDeletePerhaps you watched a lot of Barons games last year and know better but I think Chorney is a lot better than he showed two years ago when he was dropped off well out at sea.
His AHL +/- have gone from the -20's in his first two years to -1 last year & and he started to put up some points.
Still, the Oilers should not be scared to expose him to waivers. He could use more time in AAA and if he does get claimed they can likely pick up a fairly similar player on waivers themselves.
Chorney is 24 and unless he takes a major step forward in camp he can be placed on and pass thru waivers in a heart beat. Waivers should have nothing to do with the decision making with this player. Either he is good enough to help or he isn't.
ReplyDeleteHe seems a ways away from making strides onto an NHL roster
Fair points Ashley. Chorney may yet turn a corner.
ReplyDeleteWell that's the thing. Peckham was a tougher defender who was beaten for a job by Belle (but was protected) and Chorney is a skill defender who may be beaten by Petry.
ReplyDeleteChorney doesn't win a lot of battles, though.