Saturday, August 20, 2011

RE 11-12: Nikolai Khabibulin

Nikolai Khabibulin finished 45th out of 47 goalies in save percentage last season. His .890SP in 47 games actually improved after he came back from his injury; the first portion of the season, he went 15, .879 for the young Oilers. During that time, backup Devan Dubnyk was 4, .923 between the pipes.

In the year before he arrived in Edmonton, the man from Sverdlovsk finished 6th in the NHL among regulars with a .919SP. The Chicago team in front of him would win the Stanley just one season later with what could be described as very average goaltending.

How much improvement could we expect from Nikolai in front of a better team? Who knows? All we do know is the issue in front of us is a quite different one: in a sport where roster spots are given to only the very best available players, how much of a leash do the Edmonton Oilers have for their aging Russian?

NHL prediction for 11-12: 10, 3.40 .895
  1. So it's over? That's my prediction. I think it's reasonable.
  2. He could make a comeback you know. Sure, I just don't think it's reasonable. How many goalies his age (38) have a strong comeback season with a poor hockey club. It's almost a perfect storm for burial at sea.
  3. So they send him to the minors? Nah, I don't think so. The Oilers are fairly protective of the veterans they place with their developing kids.
  4. Well they can't trade him. I expect they could, but the deal would have to be sweetened heavily and I'm not certain the Oilers would be wise to add picks or prospects.
  5. What are you suggesting? They just let him walk, make his own deal in Russia or Sweden or Finland.
  6. The Oilers still have to pay the money. Sure, and they have to go out and get another goalie.
  7. This is ridiculous. It's like that scene in the Terminal. The one where they tell him to walk out the doors and he won't? This is more like Papillon, at least in terms of desperation.
  8. Still ridiculous. More ridiculous than watching another season washed away?
  9. You're putting too much blame on the goalie here. First, no I'm not. Second, you can't fire the defensemen and the forwards are (for the most part) the future. So, the goalie's gotta go.
  10. Why? NK played about 25% of his first season with Edmonton and lost the rest to injury. He made a bad choice on Super Bowl Sunday and then he came back and had a terrible season. When does this script begin to turn in the Oilers favor?
  11. Steve Tambellini has shown great faith in him. There are internet rumors that Dubnyk has been told he'll start the season as a backup. The Oilers will be forced to play the best option available, and that is likely to be Dubnyk. Again, a quote from Tom Renney in regard to Khabibulin: "He better (play well). No one knows that better than Khabbi does. My exit interview with him was very poignant. He knows what is in front of him and should he not be able to seize that then the dynamic changes and he's well aware of that."
  12. I hate it when you get certain about something. I can't imagine this prediction biting me in the ass, but hey if it does I'll be thrilled. Wanna bet?
  13. How are you so sure? He's 38, coming off a bad season that was preceded by an injury season plus there's some evidence he wasn't exactly paying attention to his career during his injury season. I've yet to read any "Khabibulin is in the best shape of his life" stories and the coach will be (rightly) riding his ass all year long. PLUS it's a shitty team.
  14. Could the script be any worse? Does he have shingles?
  15. Funny. Not really. This is a bad situation all around. Decisions like this one contribute to people losing their jobs.
  16. What do you mean? Steve Tambellini's track record with the Oilers is going to take a big hit in the next 12 months (imo). There's the mess that is the Smyth deal and then there's the Khabibulin ending, all of which will land on ST's doorstep.
  17. Why do we care? The person in charge of Tambellini's future is Daryl Katz. Since taking over he has moved out coach MacT and moved Kevin Lowe into a position outside the GM's chair (although he clearly still has influence). As long as the draft picks turn out and the future looks bright, Tambellini has some nice things on his resume. But if enough things go sideways, and there are a few here that could, then Steve Tambellini could be replaced.
  18. By whom? Don't know yet?
  19. You always say Kevin Lowe. No, I think Lowe is tied to the Tambellini administrations and now is in fact Jim Devellano in this version of the Oilers. People who don't know the meaning of that reference should read Hockeytown. Illitch replaced Devellano without ever firing him. I think the next change will see Lowe phased more into the background (at least in regard to decision making) and the new man will have the power to say no to Lowe. Now they need to find their Ken Holland.
  20. Is he in the organization? Maybe. Holland spent a long time in the scouting department and then spent another 7 years as scouting director. Then he was elevated to the GM's job and has been there approximately forever.
  21. Could it be MBS? Maybe, I have no idea. It might be someone outside the organization, maybe someone in the Red Wing organization. I imagine Daryl Katz is at the point as owner where he talks to people and has an idea about how he'd like this thing to play out over the next several years.
  22. So ST isn't the answer? We'll see. Nikolai Khabibulin could help things a great deal by being somewhat useful this coming season.
  23. Which is why he's here? Yes.

35 comments:

  1. i think Khabby would still make a good backup to Dubnyk, and i'm hoping DD can get 45 to 50 starts this year,maybe more if he plays well, it's time to let him play and see what he can do.

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  2. If I were to guess, my sense is that you are absolutely right that Khabi will quickly lose his grip on an NHL job LT. That said, I think your timing is off because so much is at stake for 3.1.

    He needs Khabibulin to bounce back more than anyone in this org and I think he'll pressure the coach to give him more time, more opportunity and this will bury the team once more.

    It is possible that Khabi could bounce back, however his trend since the lockout has been atrocious, his injuries have caught up. The odds do not favor it.

    Having DD and Danis as your goaltenders behind that corp of defensemen and young forwards still learning how to play assures another high lottery pick next June.

    Unfortunately.

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  3. The first and most important question w.r.t. reKhab is the one that wasn't asked. Can he legally enter the country? According to the law and past practices, he cannot. If the rules are bent for him, will there be public outrage? If so, then Tambi's future really will be dancing on a the edge of a razor blade.

    If he does make it to TC, Renney's quote clearly indicates that Khabi is going to get the opportunity to seize the starting role. So yeah, I'll take that bet. If NK is able to enter the country, Dubnyk starts the season as back up. Might only be for a week, but they'll give Khabi the rope to hang himself first. This management never changes course until the iceberg is like right frickin there.

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  4. But then again, I would have bet the farm on the Eskies winning last night, so what the eff do I know.

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  5. Re: Nation Radio.

    Why are you not doing this show again?

    In a very short time, the Nation Radio has become my Saturday routine.

    No one needs to listen to Robin Brownlee's blather. At least, I don't!

    I hope that this condition is temporary. Get back soon.

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  6. I agree that they will "Huet" him to Europe, but not for another season. He's washed up but ST has too much of his reputation tied up in the contract.

    So if you are only expecting 10 GP for Khabi, why only 40 starts for Dubnyk? Even if they bring in someone like Emery, why shouldn't DD get 50+ GP if he puts up similar numbers to last year (as you're reasonably expecting)?

    Among healthy starting goalies in 10/11 with a Sv% as good as Dubnyk (.916), Nik Backstrom had the least GP with 51.

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  7. According to the law and past practices, he cannot.

    Which law is this? And which practices?

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  9. You know, the law. The idealised one that exists in us layman's minds. ;-)

    As far as I am concerned NK's new nicknames should be Millstone. Around the neck of the team's hopes this season. Around the chance of giving Dubnyk the appropriate amount of play this year. Around ST's career as GM.

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  10. Perry K - LT is on vacation for a couple of weeks and is supposed to be returning from what I've read.

    I don't mind Brownlee on there. I think it's good to mix him and some of the high calibre guests he can bring onto the show. it will raise the profile of the entire production in the long run.

    As for Khabibulin, what an embarrassing way to go out. Just imagine how sad it would be if he didn't have his one ring of power.

    I've yet to read any "Khabibulin is in the best shape of his life" stories and the coach will be (rightly) riding his ass all year long. PLUS it's a shitty team.

    I heard from an unreliable source that I just made up that he's switched to Marlboro Lights! No oxygen mask this year, baby!

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  12. Brownlee reminding us that Barker was a 3rd overall pick. Made me wonder what the rest of estimated roster looks like...

    13 roster players drafted in the 1st round. 9 of them are top 10 picks.
    - Smyth, Hemsky, Hall, Gagner, Brule, Paajarvi, Eberle, Eager, Nugent-Hopkins, Whitney, Smid, Barker, Dubnyk

    2nd Rounders - Petry

    3rd Rounders - Peckham

    4th Rounders - Horcoff, Belanger, Omark, Jones, Gilbert

    5th Rounders - Hordichuk

    9th Rounders - Khabibulin

    Undrafted - Sutton

    So I guess the 1st and 4th round picks are the general makeup of the team. Interesting.

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  13. Ribs: Interesting.

    Before the Oil drafted Hall, it was the only team in the league with Minnesota without a top 5 overall player.

    Now both of them have one.

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  14. I think we all agreed at the signing that the Bulin contract was a boondoggle. As well, most of us probably agree that he's finished.

    That being said, given that they're no vezina calibre goalies available in their prime, I'm more worried about our defense.

    In other words, if I had to choose between one of the other flawed stopgap goalies available or one or more top 4 d, you know what I'd prefer. :p

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  15. You know, the law. The idealised one that exists in us layman's minds. ;-)

    To be clear, I'm not saying that that isn't the law - I don't know. But I do know that a Canadian with a single impaired conviction will normally have no trouble getting into the States, and I'd be surprised if Canada was more stringent about this sort of thing than the U.S.

    (The above is not legal advice.)

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  16. Steve often drives over the border drunk, getting a DUI while entering the country. It's a new immigration strategy.

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  17. My broken down pickup is chock full of dead dogs. The wife didn't like it, though; she left.

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  18. The dead dogs will raise red flags at the border, especially after the DUI.

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  19. I know that dead dog thing from experience.

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  20. helenenothelen Helene Elliott

    Kings and F Ethan Moreau verbally agree on 1-year, $600,000 deal pending results of a physical he will undergo on Monday.
    41 minutes ago

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  21. mc79hockey mc79hockey

    You just know Lombardi is going to blame the Oilers when he finds out how oft-injured and generally useless Moreau is.
    40 minutes ago

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  22. results of a physical he will undergo on Monday

    Likely the LA Kings doctors will find the (undiagnosised) brain cramp he has been playing with the last few years.

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  23. I'll say it again:

    Watching Khabibulin in warm ups before the games start continues to be amazing - after all he's a cup winning goalie.

    K. "Chuckles" Lowe

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  24. "Ethan Moreau + Lombardi = a potentially incredible synergy."

    Steve Tambellini

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  25. Kings take away Smyth, add Moreau.

    Good luck with that.

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  26. Well it makes the entire Colin Fraser thing a little batty. Replacing Fraser with Moreau? I don't get that.

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  27. NHL GM'ship.

    They try their best to look like they know what they're doing.

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  28. spOiler: Khabibulin might be technically inadmissible, but realistically he won't have any problems coming to and from Canada.

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/conviction.asp

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/permits.asp

    I imagine that Khabibulin wouldn't even be stopped by customs as a result of his conviction. But in any case, I don't think he would have a problem obtaining the above-mentioned permit.

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  29. I wouldn't be surprised to see some bounce back in Khabibulin's numbers.

    His last season is up there with among the worst he's had, and he probably still has a year or two left in the tank.

    Maybe .900 to .910 save percentage.

    At the same time it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Dubnyk fall off some. Devan's last season was his best pro season by a mile. His average in his previous 3-4 pro seasons was probably like .905% in the AHL no less.

    Hopefully I am wrong. but the guy could fall back to the .900 range at the NHL level.

    The goaltending definitely has the potential to be horrific. Hopefully Dubnyk's last season was a real step forward and not just some good luck.

    The Oilers need better then average goaltending to win hockey games.

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  30. But I do know that a Canadian with a single impaired conviction will normally have no trouble getting into the States, and I'd be surprised if Canada was more stringent about this sort of thing than the U.S.

    I am not an immigration lawyer but I understand that this is, in fact the case. The Americans are, and I think this is rare, a lot more sensible about someone trying to enter the country with a one off impaired than we are, as I understand things.

    With that said, I'd imagine that this can be dealt with if you have the assistance of a supportive employer. Inexplicably, Khabby has this.

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  31. @ Tyler.

    You know as wells I do that "inexplicably" is not part of the current lexicon.

    It all makes perfect sense.:)

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  32. This Khabibulin debacle is a glaring reminder of the old boys club mentality in the NHL, in that former players enjoy a privileged position when it comes to acquiring and keeping management jobs. Tambo and Lowe aren't exposed to the same accountability that other managers are.

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