The Edmonton Oilers are adding size and truculence by the minute. Andy Sutton has been acquired from Anaheim in exchange for Kurtis Foster. There may be a pick involved, I'm still checking it out.
Like Cam Barker, acquired earlier in the day, Sutton is coming off a subpar performance in 11-12 (39gp, 0-4-4 +1 with 87pims) but at 6.06, 245 he's big, tough and mean. His secondary numbers imply a third pairing enforcer and a guy who can help out on the PK. I'll have a blog post up later today about what this means for the 11-12 roster, but the addition of Sutton and Barker cannot bode well for Taylor Chorney and Jeff Petry (likely OKC bound).
The Oilers are getting a major makeover.
This year's JVM?
ReplyDeleteI like it...you can never have enough D...this should mean Stu has more bullets in the draft come trade deadline day this year...sutton should be worth a 3rd or 4th.
ReplyDeleteThe Oilers get tougher yet slower. I thought they would have learned from last years defense.
ReplyDeleteLieno with a monster contract. Too much money
ReplyDelete@ Dangerman
ReplyDeleteI am not sure you can get slower than Foster. And Sutton is actually better at defense.
Now the Oilers are hoping Barker can be aPP QB taking over Foster's role.
well no one will push us around this year anyways. Slower yes, but vet players who know their roles and play with nastiness. So only a centreman left to go
ReplyDeleteSo you're an expert?
ReplyDeleteMuch better than Vandermeer and Strudwick. Again, we needed guys like Sutton and Barker, only I was hoping for better players
ReplyDeletePetry does bode well...he only one of 2 RH Dmen on the Oilers team atm.
ReplyDeleteSutton is a decent skater for his size.
ReplyDeletePetry has nothing to worry about. He plays the starboard side.
Who's playing the right side on D??
ReplyDeleteWhy give Barker that much money? Dumb
Do people realize that the cap went up?
ReplyDeleteIts still a slice of the pie, just a much larger pie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbEKmnJO5TQ
ReplyDeleteTSN says trade not yet done.
ReplyDeleteWell I'm not certain about all these deals (I need time to think, dammit!) but Foster was about as bad as anyone at defense since poor Igor Ulanov came from Montreal those years ago and wore his ass for a hat for a few weeks after the deadline.
ReplyDeleteSutton's a #4. A legit #4. Competent, but dirty as hell. Headshots every which way.
ReplyDeleteTSN saying trade NOT done yet. Here we go again...
ReplyDeletewe all wanted actual nhl players to fill out the roster, and tambo is doing just that. Belanger takes the cake. not a perfect day if it happens, but it makes us a better grittier team. And so far only eager is on anything more then 1 yr deals which gives us options at the deadline.
ReplyDeletefoster had to go. I like the trade overall if there is apick its gravy
ReplyDeleteARE YOU KIDDING ME? The trade's not done? Holy hell, Tambellini.
ReplyDeleteIt turns out Foster has dengue fever and cannot be traded.
ReplyDeleteSutton isn't a legit #4 anymore than Foster was.
ReplyDeleteStocking up on Beef..
ReplyDeleteHaha.. Compensating for RNH much!..
(I like that Hordichuk is encouraged to protect the young'ns when on the phone w TSN..)
Brulé is contagious?
ReplyDeleteYour 7 d-men are now:
ReplyDeleteWhitney
Gilbert
Smid
Barker
Petry
Sutton
Peckham
I don't see Petry going down, but having one of Petry or Peckham not play regularly makes no sense. My guess is that Gilbert is on the block.
Brulitis-nontradiotis disease.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking at gabe's numbers at behind the net and I can't get top 4 pairing out of Sutton's numbers.
ReplyDeleteLike the player, but he's not the #4 guy we're looking for today.
Jason Arnott would be the ultimate Cherry on the cake...
ReplyDeleteSend Foster to Anaheim. Any limbs, etc. he may be missing can go out on next flight.
ReplyDeleteSutton however is a legit bottom pairing guy, adds meanness and size and can PK. And he's an improvement on Foster. Sign Vandermeer and Belanger and let's start the damn season.
ReplyDeleteTracy Lane
ReplyDeleteTreenasOil Tracy Lane
Belanger still talking to the Oilers as is Arnott camp
1 minute ago
"Jason Arnott would be the ultimate Cherry on the cake..."
ReplyDeleteWell, considering the Oilers have sent all their cannons away in the last 24 hours....Arnott would fill a lot of nees in one body.
I will pee rainbow Skittles if we sign Arnott.
ReplyDeleteChief of Oil medical staff:
ReplyDeleteDr. Nick Riviera
Hi Everybody!
lt: I think they'll pair barker with Whitney, and have the all nasty peckham and sutton slow 3rd pairing.
ReplyDeleteand the picks may be from us to anaheim to dump foster's salary
ReplyDeleteOilers will get a lot of practice shorthanded this year.
ReplyDeleteGagner and Gilbert for Mike Green per Treenas
ReplyDeleteOil mulling it over
V3.01. Doing things. About time.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else notice how the new Oilers are Renney-type players?
Had a chance to watch Sutton for 3 games in the Anaheim/Nashville series. He was pretty brutal.
ReplyDeleteOnly way he's top 4 is if he's playing in the AHL.
bikini says Colorado signs giguere
ReplyDeleteI think Barker is the guy that will get moved to the right side. Smid doesn't have the head for it and Peckham is too slow for it. Barker has some mobility, at least better than Peckham and Sutton.
ReplyDeletespOILer: Yeah, agreed. I don't think we should look at this addition as anything but positive.
ReplyDeleteThe big issue now is that some of the kids aren't going to be here. A quick depth chart:
1. Whitney
2. Gilbert
3. Smid
4. Peckham
5. Barker
6. Sutton
That's how I see it, anyway. Petry on the farm.
Wonder if Bikini girl is Bob Stauffer
ReplyDeleteLT, I would put petry over Peckham. I think Peckham becomes #7 guy which is good
ReplyDeleteGreen is supposed to be available. We would finally have some shots from the point.
ReplyDeleteGagner and Gilbert for Mike Green per Treenas
ReplyDeleteWhoa. You know what....Green shoots right.. but so does Gilbert.
But a Whitney/Green top pairing would be something nice.
i hope the gilbert/gagner deal is just a rumour. that would not be good in my view
ReplyDeletePetry>Peckham
ReplyDeleteNo?
Wonder if Bikini girl is Bob Stauffer
ReplyDeleteNow where did I hear that before?
Punjabi sez: "Wonder if Bikini girl is Bob Stauffer"
ReplyDeleteThat is a really bad visual. Really, really bad.
Mike Green career high 31 goals
ReplyDeleteSam Gagner career high 16 goals
What a steal that would be. I don't believe it.
Make it Cogs and Gilbert + prospects/picks for Green and I'm all for it.
ReplyDeleteGagner's still got upside, we shouldn't sell him low.
Does anyone know if Green is healthy? He ended the season on a concussion, didn't he?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't do that Green deal.
ReplyDeleteI can't find that Mike Green rumor on bikini girl's site. What time did it hit?
ReplyDeleteRishaug now watching bra and panties. Can't blame him. Giguere to COL? He's gonna love playing in the same div as Smytty.
ReplyDeleteThis trade was reported, right?
ReplyDeletehttp://twitter.com/#!/TSNRyanRishaug/status/86888815179988992
Souray to the Stars.
ReplyDeleteSouray to Dallas. 1.6M/1year.
ReplyDeleteHopefully Vancouver's going out and getting a tough guy, because I'm coming after them. Calgary, too. It's payback time.
ReplyDeleteWow, Hordichuk sounds a bit pissed.
Souray signs with Dallas.
ReplyDeleteSouray to Stars.
ReplyDeletePotulny gets a two-way/one-way 2 year deal with Wash.
Gagner's arrows are not pointing downwards, his secondary numbers hint of improvement this year.
ReplyDeleteIf you want a face-off artist and a defensive center, you're not going to get that, but he's still a solid player.
Finally some other team will be dealing with Souray's injuries.
ReplyDeleteHordichuk was pretty uncermoniously dumped by Vancouver. Don't blame him for being pissed.
ReplyDeleteGreen - he's an RFA after this year, 1 year away from becoming a UFA. He's making 5M/year.
ReplyDeleteYou better be convinced you can extend him, otherwise you give up two good pieces in Gagner and Gilbert.
I'd try to push Gilbert + Lander + Hamilton
Tencer: Belanger and Arnott talking to the Oilers.
ReplyDeleteIf the Oilers were to add Arnott, Eager, Hordichuk, Sutton and Barker on one day, can we finally stop talking about the need for "team toughness"?
Also, did Brian Burke take over for 3.1 today?
"If you want a face-off artist and a defensive center, you're not going to get that, but he's still a solid player."
ReplyDeleteYou just answered your own statement. The minute that RNH was revealed as an Oiler, the clock started ticking on Young Sam. Can't have two of those types of centers rolling on the team.
I don't buy the meme about too much losing when the kids look around the room and clearly see a better future. Many tracks in life are all about sucking it up on the crest of greatness.
ReplyDeleteWhat I do see as a risk is losing the *same way* year after year. This teaches the kids nothing, and impairs their capacity to adapt to shifting circumstance, which every championship team must learn how to do.
With the D line up as it appears to be shaping up, the kids are going to learn some harsh lessons about becoming too preoccupied with one end of the ice. On the other hand, they won't be losing the same way, which is at least a small sop to someday salvation.
Speaking of Brian Burke, did someone forget to tell him what day it was?
ReplyDeleteMark-Ryan: We could if Arnott would use his size and hit something.
ReplyDeleteNicest guy in the world, but like the old expression goes, if he went into a corner with eggs in his pocket, they wouldn't get broken.
still a long way to go but Oilers are incrementally better and at a low cost and risk
ReplyDeleteBarker is a gamble but who gives a shit if he doesn't work out? One year and this is it for him. Last chance Texaco. Maybe he's Cleary or maybe he's Pouliot but we'll see.
Eager and Hordichuk are better than SMac and Jacques, Sutton helps a bit.
Need that centre though.
"I'd try to push Gilbert + Lander + Hamilton"
ReplyDeleteNo way in Jebus I would do that. you would rather move a two-way center and a two-way winger, noth of whom are stronger than Young Sam.
Give 'em Gagner and be done with it.
Green being a UFA is an issue, but I might want to make sure he would sign here long-term before I pull that trigger. They could start negotiating with him now if they wanted to.
Sorry if this gets posted twice.
ReplyDelete@ Mark-Ryan: Arnott has hit anything in years. He's a great guy in person, but the complaint on him is he does not use his size.
Burke is in Iran. Nonis is the leafs rep today
ReplyDeleteWhich is why I think Gagner will be a RW within a year.
ReplyDeleteI love Andy Sutton. Shot blocking machine.
ReplyDeleteI kind of hope he can mold Peckham to his style.
I dont like the Green rumour..
ReplyDeleteAlthough Green is a (fringe) All Star, if he is on the block Washington is passing on him.. they must not believe they can win big with him in the mix.. is this the play we wont to bring in?!..
Maybe.. He would provide some high end skill, but i dunno..
helenenothelen Helene Elliott
ReplyDeleteducks haven't confirmed Sutton/Foster trade but it is likely to happen later.
5 minutes ago
whoa, lots of typos
ReplyDeleteI don't see the Green rumor anywhere. Suspect it's false, madeup whatever.
ReplyDeleteFoster is likely on his way to see the Ducks' medical staff.
ReplyDeleteDarren Dreger
ReplyDeleteDarrenDreger Darren Dreger
Sources say Calgary going in with a big pitch for B.Richards. believe it or not...Flyers in as well. Not sure how. very interesting.
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Vandy to SJ. 1 mil per.
ReplyDeleteAnd now i've read the thread. Mike Green rumour is very intriguing.
ReplyDeleteGreen can score but his defense is awful.
ReplyDeleteWHERE IS THE GREEN RUMOR? It isn't anywhere.
ReplyDeleteBikini says Belanger close
ReplyDeleteTreenasOil
ReplyDeleteBelanger close to signing with the Oilers
Belanger close - Panties
ReplyDeleteI see that LT has changed the original post; now that the Sutton trade may not happen, this will get deleted @ 3.
ReplyDeleteIn which case, I'd like to admit that I'm chuffed to bits that we've signed Brad Richards to a $1M per year, 10 year contract, and that the Stanley is now 99% guaranteed.
Now the bikini is saying Belanger is close to signing here.
ReplyDeleteTreenasOil - Belanger close to signing with the Oilers
ReplyDeleteI seriously doubt that the Green rumours are true, but even as a believer in Gagner's long-term potential (I think he's going to be a 70-80 point player). And I think Gilbert is a legitimate, quality top-four defenseman. But if you can get an elite talent on the blue-line, especially a player that's going to have a massive impact on the powerplay, you do it. They've got some guys who may be several years away, but man... Mike Green? I don't care. Add in Hemsky. Throw in a second round pick. Give them Cogliano too if they like. Just get it done if Washington is even considering moving him.
ReplyDeleteThat said... I don't think it's happening.
Yes Petry> Peckham
ReplyDeleteIf you check out C&B
Petry was one of the few Oilers to come outpositive in scoring chance differential while Peckham was absolutely destroyed.
So if there was 1 spot ot hand out my vote goes to Petry. Peckham can play as a 7th D man.
Just to update this thread: Green rumour confirmed false.
ReplyDeleteBelanger DONE
ReplyDeleteBelanger is an Oiler.
ReplyDeleteTracy Lane
ReplyDeleteTreenasOil Tracy Lane
Belanger signs with EDM as per Garfield
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Hmmm. Bikini Girl would appear to be legit. Crazy.
ReplyDeleteanyone want to guess belanger terms? I'll guess 7.5 over 3
ReplyDeleteLT, did you pick up enough beer?
ReplyDelete"anyone want to guess belanger terms? I'll guess 7.5 over 3"
ReplyDeleteI hope for 5 over 2.
It's for 3 years, according to a guy from RDS.
ReplyDeleteHoping no more than 2M per year.
ReplyDeleteThis is the most bewildering day I've had as an Oiler fan. That's saying a lot.
ReplyDeleteAddressed toughness, addressed C, may or may not have some of the best wing depth in the league (I would argue we currently have a legit #1 LW and RW, #2 LW and RW and #3 LW and RW).
Still some shakey legs on D and a big question in goal, but damn.
I actually have a ton of beer, and wine. Long weekend. God I wish i was 20.
ReplyDeletebeauty...3 years 1.75 per
ReplyDelete1.75 per.
ReplyDelete3 years.
Awesome.
$1.75 per for 3 years for belanger. solid
ReplyDelete$1.75M x 3 years for Belanger, per Dreger. Not bad at all.
ReplyDeleteI'd say Tambo is now v 4.0.
ReplyDeleteGreat day
Any idea who/what this Garfield is that bikini gal keeps referencing?
ReplyDeleteI hate Sutton. I will actively boo him.
ReplyDeleteGreat day to be a fan of winning games though. Get Arnott!!!
Belanger had 40 points and won 55% of his draws last year, BTW.
ReplyDeleteHe's probably on Horcoff's plain as a hockey player right now.
1.75 per. 3 years. For a guy who just dissed Winnipeg.
3.1 did good.
"beauty...3 years 1.75 per"
ReplyDeleteGood numbers. The depth chart has an interesting look now. Belanger will be Horcoff backup.
better terms than i was expecting, nice signing.
ReplyDeleteNow if they only had a competent veteran goaltender....
ReplyDeleteAgreed on 20, LT... And here in Cochrane the altitude adds to the hangovers... I may have to move.
ReplyDeleteI'd be happier if Belanger had Arnott's size. Still, IIRC, he's great at the dot.
ReplyDeleteAndrew Cogliano's tenure as an Oiler is in great jeopardy.
regarding petry vs peckham
ReplyDeletePetry was one of the few Oilers to come out on top in scoring chance differential while Peckham got demolished.
As a better skater and possibly a better defenseman Petry gets the nod from me over Peckham esp now that we have Sutton in the mix.
The C position is getting more crowded, not sure if its better but definitely more crowded.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievably, Vokoun is still available. Wonder who's still in the goalie market? Washington on a short term basis maybe. CBJ just signed Sanford.
ReplyDeleteThat dope on hockeybuzz says the Oilers offered Vokuon a contract and he flat out said no way.
ReplyDelete"I'd say Tambo is now v 4.0."
ReplyDeleteHaha.. I'll second that!..
kris:
ReplyDeleteWow, thanks--that makes sense, and is pretty harsh to boot.
cuthoma-howdichuk ith a pwetty tough cuthoma
new thread. belanger thread
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