Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Theo Peckham 10-11: The Times They Are A Changin'

The Edmonton Oilers rarely draft, develop and deploy big, physical defensemen who are useful.

In the last decade or so, they've drafted (and traded) Matt Greene, Mathieu "never met an end board he didn't like to bash head-first awkwardly" Roy, Alexei "slow-slower-slowest" Semenov and Alex "O" Henry.

They have another in Theo Peckham. He isn't perfect--for instance Greene's size/speed combination isn't part of his skill set--but Peckham is pure hammer on a drum. His development (along with Jeff Petry's) is the most welcome news along the blue.

Theo Peckham 10-11 
  • 5x5 points per 60: 0.70 (3rd among Oil D)
  • 5x4 points per 60: nil
  • Qual Comp: 2nd toughest among D
  • Qual Team: 6th best available among D
  • Corsi Rel: -6.6 (6th best among D)
  • Zone Start: 47.1% (toughest among D)
  • Zone Finish: 49.5% (worst among D)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 41 shots/3 goals 7.3% (2nd best)
  • Boxcars: 71gp, 3-10-13
  • Plus Minus: -5 on a team that was -52
  1. What do these numbers tell us? Peckham played tougher minutes than one would think for a player of his experience. He did it while playing with Tom Gilbert 48% of the time at evens, so despite the teammate number above he wasn't alone. He did have the toughest zone start, so for Peckham to emerge with his CorsiRel at -6.6 and a -5 overall (and allowing a major dollop for luck) that's still a solid year. This was his first full NHL season.
  2. What about that expected plus minus thingy? Peckham played 1,134 minutes at evens, making his expected plus minus -14.8 for his first full season in the NHL. Again, lots of luck but I think it's also fair to suggest there's a player here.
  3. How could these numbers be better? The Corsi team rank could be better, but it's still an encouraging number on a team this bad. Considering the toughness of minutes and the zone start, expecting more would be beyond reasonable.
  4. Is he really a top 4 defender? I don't know. I think we're about to find out. Peckham isn't going to be a puck mover and he might have more injuries than most because he's so bloody active. However, he does seem to be improving with experience and best of all Peckham delivered with some degree of consistency as the season rolled along.
  5. You like him better than Smid? You'll have to wait to read the Smid item.
  6. Big mystery, you've already traded Smid. Is Peckham really top 4? If the Oilers keep Whitney, Petry, Gilbert and Smid then my thinking on Peckham is that he'd be 4A (with Smid) next season. I don't think they'll do that, deciding instead to run with Whitney-Petry and then deal for another Whitney-type player. If the club flushed Tom Gilbert in that deal, it's wide open for that defender's partner with Peckham and Smid the likely candidates. 
  7. Don't you mean the only candidates? No. Foster is under contract and there's a possibility he'll be better next season, plus the team might re-sign someone like Jim Vandermeer. Plus there's Chorney, a player the organization clearly likes, and the minor leagues have Teubert, Plante, Montgomery and Marincin could take a run. 
  8. Martin Marincin? The same Martin Marincin who struggled in the second half of the WHL season? The very same. Marincin could come to camp and impress, and the Oilers could also draft Adam Larsson. They are also rumored to be in discussions with this fellow and he could surprise. Sounds like Risto Siltanen to me.
  9. You're off your nut. NONE of those guys will compete! You do know the Oilers finished 30th in a 30 team league, right? I think the only safe bets on the blue for opening night are Whitney, Petry and Peckham. After that, it's show me in training camp.
  10. Ridiculous! Not so. In 1987, the Montreal Expos brought the world to training camp. Every sore armed, heavy drinking male who'd thrown a baseball in anger got an invite. Montreal won 91 games that year. The absence of alternatives clears the mind.
  11. Baseball isn't hockey. The point is the same. If you don't have enough of something, expand the pool of talent available in an effort to find something useful.
  12. Like Grebeshkov? Yes, except by my count the Oilers have enough puck movers and enough stay-at-homes but are shy on people who can do a wide range of things.
  13. Who do you want them to trade for? One of those complete talents would be ideal. Someone like Shea Weber, only before he became Shea Weber. Know any of those?
  14. Will the Oilers make more than one move to improve the defense? Yes. Petry aside, I think they'll add two defensemen to the top 6 that played here a year ago.
Prediction for 2010-11: 50gp, 1-1-2 (.040)
Actual 2010: 71gp, 3-10-13 (.183)
A solid first NHL season

17 comments:

  1. Whitney-AAAAA
    Peckham-Gilbert
    BBBBB-Petry
    Foster

    In the A slot, I'd like a Zach Bogosian type. In the B spot, I'd like an Andrew Ference type.

    Theo Peckham, at this stage, deserves a look with Gilbert. Its just where the Oilers are at their revolutionary stage. The reason I keep Peckham over Smid is because he is "man tough". I think Smid is a bit of a poser. Other players fear Peckham, Smid doesn't get that respect yet. We'll see how it plays out.

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  2. Although I would also like to see Weber as an Oiler I won't hold my breathe.But what about Kevin Kline from Nashville.

    27 years old.2 years left at 1.35 mil per season.He is physical and moves the puck well.Was 2nd pairing behind Weber and Suter.Nashville needs forwards which is our only area of depth.

    Whitney-Klein
    Peckham-Gilbert
    Petry-Smid
    Foster

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  3. Now this guy is part of the future!! So much upside it's scary. #3/4 D-man playing the tough minutes, ie. on the ice protecting a one goal lead late in the game. Needs a veteran that plays his style to be a mentor. But what are the chances that will happen?

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  4. Corsi Rel: -6.6 (6th best among D)


    Rel Corsi:
    Gilbert 6.0
    JVM 4.9
    Smid 2.3
    Foster 2.0
    Petry 2.0
    Whitney 0.6
    Teddy -6.6

    LT, that puts Teddy at 7th best Rel Corsi.

    If you are right and the Oilers trade Smid and Gilbert and the Oilers let Vandermeer walk, they just lost their three best even strength Dmen as described by Rel Corsi.

    This would be progress?

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  5. I am very happy with Teddy. As far as Smid... the only way I'd be content in seeing him walk is if he affords us the ability to trade Gilbert, and the two acquire us a solid d-man. Can't say I'm a fan of Gilbert, these days, although I do recognize that he hasn't been utilized to his strengths.

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  6. Peckham exceeded my expectations as a 3rd round pick in 2006. Has been real good value.

    Klein from Nashville would be an interesting acquisition - he was drafted ahead of Webber.

    Webber says he wants to stay a Pred, but if the dollars are too much - would it be worth a package to get him that includes Gilbert, Gagner and a draft pick (#19). I could be smoking the drapes on this one - admittedly because I've been saying all along Nashville won't trade him.

    But if he won't take a home team discount, they also have to resign
    Suter and Rinne next summer so they've got to look down the road on this signing.

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  7. Zone Start: 47.1% (toughest among D)
    Zone Finish: 49.5% (worst among D)


    I think ranking the Zone Finish is a little mis-leading.

    I think its a good idea to show the Start% - Finish% = + or - % to give an idea if the puck is moving the right way on the ice.

    From the previous thread:

    Smid +2.5%
    Peckhmam +2.4%
    Petry +1.4%
    Vandermeer -0.2%
    Gilbert -0.5%
    Foster -1.5%
    Whitney -2.8%
    Strudwick -3.9%

    Also Gabe acknowledged that the QualComp numbers look weird this year and suggests that Corsi Qualcomp and Qualteam.

    Using these here is how the Dmen stack up:

    CorQualComp (toughest to easiest)

    Whitney
    Strudwick (!)
    Gilbert
    Smid
    Peckham
    Vandermeer
    Foster
    Petry

    CorQualTeam (best help to worst help)

    Whitney
    Peckham
    Smid
    Petry
    Vandermeer
    Gilbert
    Foster
    Strudwick


    Ol' Struddy was put into pretty rough waters according to this.

    I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here LT. Your work is very much appreciated on all the player re-caps. I'm just trying to add some accuracy to the information.

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  8. I should really review my posts before submitting them.

    From above should read:

    Also Gabe acknowledged that the QualComp numbers look weird this year and suggests that Corsi Qualcomp and Corsi Qualteam are more accurate ratings than straight QC and QT

    I'll try to find the link to Gabe writing this, but I'm pretty sure I'm correct this is what he said.

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  9. LT: is it OK to say that every year you expect the Oilers to do something but they never do?;)

    Note: I was gonna say it anyway:)

    In any case, I guess what we're looking for is a way to know which of these kids are worth spending all the GP on.

    In regards to 5, it looks like he was a guy who in hindsight Wasn't worth all the time we've given him.

    Personally, I Want you to be right and then it's 5-49-58-77 and two real D brought in and the 26 experiment ends and 5 moves on.

    But we know who we're talking about here.

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  10. Yeah I was just doing my season review of Zack Stortini at the Cult of Hockey and noticed that he had the best QT and the worst CorsiQT among the 16 forwards. Noting the high quality of the dudes Zorg lined up with - JFJ, Fraser, Jones, Big Mac - I tend to find the Corsi (or RelCorsi) version of QT a tad more believable this season.

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  11. "The Times They Are A Changin"...love that track. Didn't love the movie Watchmen, but the sequence set to this song near the start of the movie was great film.

    Long Live Teddy Peckman!!!

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  12. LT you've now said a bunch of times Gilbert + "X" (maybe Smid) out the door, but for who. Which D men to you see as a) a fair return, b) play for a team that would make that trade. It can't be a long list.

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  13. Teddy's rough around the edges, but i'd like him to stay none the less. Oiler fans are still howling to this day that we traded Matt Greene.

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  14. People bemoan watching Greene leave because we had to put up with is growing pains, and just when he was on the cusp of becoming what he is now he was sent out of town. Greene also plays the brand of hockey that most Oil fans seem to respond to, physical defensive D, as opposed to Gilbert's finesse.

    Basically LA has reaped the rewards of his 'learning on the job' time with the Oilers. Similar to how Edmonton reaped the rewards of the experience (and mistakes) that Jason Smith went through with New Jersey and Toronto.

    I still think it was good hockey trade. A solid 2nd line to good 3rd line centre that can play in all zones and situations with a plus shot in Stoll, and a solid top 4 shutdown physical D in Greene, for an elite puckmover in Vishnovsky.

    The real sin was not replacing the gaping holes created by the trade. This is made worse since both players going out were still young and likely to sign reasonable contracts, or even give slight discounts since they both genuinely seemed to love being in Edmonton and were both seemingly great in the locker room.

    Lordie how I thought they would simply sign Pitkanen to 4 million a year and keep Stoll and Greene. Sigh.

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  15. Check out Peckham's scoring chance ratio without Gilbert. Yowzers.

    And yes, they probably will trade Gilbert. Morons.

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  16. As per my comment above:

    Tom Gilbert

    With Peckham
    SCF: 152
    SCA: 171
    Ratio: 0.471

    Without Peckham
    SCF: 219
    SCA: 221
    Ratio: 0.498

    Peckham without Gilbert
    SCF: 126
    SCA: 189
    Ratio: 0.400

    In my opinion the most damning thing we can take from these numbers is that Peckham faced easier minutes without Gilbert. 77 played the toughest D minutes on the team while 49 came in at #2. The separation would have to occur while they were apart, thus 77's minutes were tougher.

    So, 77 comes out nearly even without 49, and 49 ends up below the Mendoza line.

    LT:

    It's frightening that management will likely flush 77 and hold onto 49. I touched on this during our discussion shortly after the Penner trade. Time and time again Oiler's management displays an inability to evaluate talent at the NHL level.

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  17. Peckham is the only guy I've seen who can land punches with both his free hand and the hand clinging to the opponet's jersey. Love it.

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