Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Kurtis Foster 10-11: Every Grain Of Sand

This was not an easy season for Kurtis Foster. It has been documented in many places and the most recent article I've read is here.

For the purposes of the "reasonable expectations" post below reviewing his season, I've avoided the events in this story except for vague references. It would however be folly not to acknowledge that these things must have had an enormous impact on Kurtis Foster.


Kurtis Foster 10-11
  • 5x5 points per 60: 0.55 (5th among Oil D)
  • 5x4 points per 60: 2.93 (2nd among Oil D)
  • Qual Comp: easiest among D
  • Qual Team: 4th best available among D
  • Corsi Rel: 2.0 (tied for 4th best among D)
  • Zone Start: 54.5% (easiest among D)
  • Zone Finish: 52.9% (best among D)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 182 shots/8 goals 4.4% (5th best)
  • Boxcars: 74gp, 8-14-22
  • Plus Minus: -12 on a team that was -52
  1. What do these numbers tell us? As with last season, Foster played easy minutes. He didn't deliver offensively at EVs or on the PP in a similar fashion to his 2009-10 season, but the 5x5/60 number isn't off that much (down from .87 to .55) and is in the middle for the Edmonton Oilers blue overall. His CorsiRel is also about average for this team, and he finished in a tie for 11th in SOG for the entire league. Foster is an NHL veteran--he needed to be better.
  2. How could these numbers be better? In watching him play--EVs or PP--I never got the feeling Foster was a confident, dependable player. He looked tentative with the puck, his shot was often wayward and his coverage was poor. He looked wooden, and he appeared to be the exact opposite of an NHL veteran. His passes were not tape-to-tape, he seemed out of time.
  3. How could these NUMBERS be better? He needed to deliver more. Foster played easy opposition, had an excellent zone start and almost 4 minutes a night on the powerplay. His CorsiRel is tied for 4th best in the league but his toughness of opponent married to his experience should have delivered a better number. It should have been a strong matchup for the Oilers.
  4. Being on the Oilers powerplay isn't a blessing. True, but he was brought in because of huge PP numbers the previous season (3-23-26) and delivered about half (5-9-14). Foster was often shooting blanks and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn door many times.
  5. Who were his EV partners? Smid (27%), Vandermeer (20%) and Strudwick (12%).
  6. Those are third pairing guys. He was playing third pairing minutes.
  7. They should trade him? I don't know if he has trade value at this time. I'd explore that option, but at some point the Oilers will have to figure out a role for him on the 11-12 team.
  8. How should they use him? I'm tempted to say the same way as this past season (13 at EVs, 4 on PP, easy opposition at EVs and #1PP) just to see how well he'd do with a mulligan. Foster did have some encouraging things on his resume when they signed him and perhaps he can find some confidence this coming season.
  9. Plus he's in his walk year. And he's also had a season to adjust. The article linked to above suggests he was putting a lot of pressure on himself, perhaps a more relaxed approach will get rid of the wooden moments.
  10. So you're happy with his season? Not at all. Foster struggled all year and as one of the more established hands needed to be better. I think he's a decent bet to have a much improved year in 11-12, certainly better than asking a rookie to perform the role.
  11. So you'd keep him? As a third pairing D who can help on the PP? Absolutely. 13 minutes a night at evens, no PK time and 4 minutes on the PP. I don't think he has a high trade value, perhaps they can pluck a draft pick for him at the deadline if Foster performs well. 
Prediction for 2010-11: 64gp, 9-18-27 (.422)

Actual 2010: 74gp, 8-14-22 (.298)

Depth D with a PP kicker

35 comments:

  1. I'm hoping the Oilers do everything in their power to make Foster the 7th Dman, rotating with Petry if/when he might hit the skids.

    History tells us the 7th Dman on the Oilers still gets in 60 games anyway due to injuries.

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  2. DangerMan: Agreed. I think the Oilers will make a move this summer addressing D, but if they don't this is the likely lineup:

    Whitney-Petry
    Smid-Gilbert
    Peckham-Foster
    Chorney

    They won't (imo) risk waivers on Chorney (they worried over JDD and JFJ so it's not a stretch).

    I believe they'll try very hard to improve that 2nd pairing over the summer, but would bet money Petry gets a push.

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  3. Trying to get a top 4 Dman is important. The Oilers are littered with 5's and 6's, even in the farm system.

    I'd surprised if Chorney got another contract, TBH. Maybe an AHL deal.

    Petry should a get a push and should be pencilled in one of the top 6 spots. Someone needs to tell that its ok to shoot the puck though.

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  4. I find it interesting that Foster only had 3 PP goals in Tampa. He actually did better than that here, it was the assists that let him down.

    So is that a Kurtis Foster issue, or is that an Oilers powerplay issue? Was he QBing the powerplay in Tampa, or just riding the Stamkos and St. Louis train to a bunch of second assists?

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  5. Hopefully he performs to the same level as 2 tears ago when he was "looking" at needing a new contract.

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  6. So is that a Kurtis Foster issue, or is that an Oilers powerplay issue? Was he QBing the powerplay in Tampa, or just riding the Stamkos and St. Louis train to a bunch of second assists?


    Foster's 5v4 /60 w/ TBY 09/10:

    TOI/60 3.72 (1st among D)
    Goals/60 0.68 (2nd among D)
    1st Asst/60 2.73 (1st among D)
    2nd Asst/60 2.05 (1st among D)
    GFON/60 7.04 (1st among D)

    Foster's 5v4 /60 w/ EDM 10/11:

    TOI/60 3.60 (2nd among D)
    Goals/60 1.13 (1st among D)
    1st Asst/60 0.45 (1st among D)
    2nd Asst/60 1.35 (4th of 4 among D)

    His Goal/60 went up, but his assists fell of the face of the earth.

    Not a stretch to think that system and team mates had a big impact on the assist number.

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  7. Steve Yz didn't even attempt to re-sign his 1st PP 1D. That had to be big signal.

    I didn't like him on the PP too much, but didn't hate him either.

    It was his slow feet, positioning and constant losing of his check in the Dzone that caused frustration.

    6th or 7th D is best spot, so when the injuries come he isn't put way above his head with 2nd pairing minutes.

    I wonder if its better to put him in a true Strudwick role and make him 4RW and 1PPD?

    He has useable skills as a PP1, but simply didn't show the tools to be an NHL Dman.

    I wonder if he would run anyone's show and has jammy grit at 4RW?

    6'5 226lbs. Hmmmm

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  8. I wonder if he would run anyone's show and has jammy grit at 4RW?

    He didn't show much toughness (except for maybe the last 10 games). Wooden is a great term to describe how he looked.

    How about Anton Babchuk from the Flames? He is a FA, had a Rel Corsi of 1.3 for the Flamers, scored reasonably well and is big. He might come here and wouldn't cost that much. He has a massive shot. I think he has a mean streak too.

    I am happy to put Foster as the #7, waive Chorney (he will likely clear), and bring in a guy like Babchuk.

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  9. You'll probably want to change point 10 to read "11-12" not "10-11" (that was last year), if I am reading that right.

    Anyways... Foster... he is the Colin Fraser of the defense group. Really, he brings nothing to the table at all. He does have the potential to be offensive though, but I'd rather give the minutes to someone else. Even on the PP there were times he looked dangerous, in the wrong way.

    I'd say addition by subtraction here... delete him from our roster in any way possible.. trade/waivers.. whatever. Vandermeer, if we re-sign him, definitely is a much better player, even though their two styles are different and Vandy was non-existent in the first 20(?) games.

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  10. Zone Start: 54.5% (easiest among forwards but DNQ)

    Two things: Do you mean to be comparing him (and the other D) to forwards, and what is the qualification you use? He played 74 games with decent, if not huge minutes. I would think that would be more than enough sample size.

    thx

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  11. Whitney on Twitter:

    Got into a fender bender other day and a "little person" gets out of car I hit and said "I'm not happy!" so I said "which one are you then?"

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  12. My ideal world brings in a serviceable Top-4 guy from the European backwaters (read: cheap). That pushes Foster to the de-facto 6-hole. We allow Petry to go back to the farm to #1 minutes until he really forces the organization's hand or until the inevitable injury bug hits this team. I'm thinking around the second intermission. Chorney's waiver eligible as has been stated so unless Petry (or others) eat his lunch in TC he gets the spot on contract basis.

    I'd slot our organizational depth chart as follows:

    Whitney-Newbie
    Smid-Gilbert
    Peckham-Foster
    Chorney

    Petry-AHL vet
    Teubert-Plante
    Marincin-Montgomery
    AHL vet

    Note that the Newbie doesn't exactly have to be top-pairing calibre, it's just where I see the dude slotting in. Options could include Grebeshkov or the Finnish dude LT was championing over at ON.

    Both AHL vets should be actual AHL vets (over 250 professional games played). Jordan Bendfelds of the world need not apply. I really liked Max Fortunus from when he played here with the Moose, as a suggestion.

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  13. Whitney-Petry
    Smid-Gilbert
    Peckham-Foster
    Chorney


    That just sent shivers up my back, LT. I hope they can add something there. Preferably a physical element. Vandermeer and Strudwick are not very good but it was nice to see the other teams players get hit every now and then.

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  16. The Zone Start stat was what jumped out at me too. How is it possible he did not qualify?

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  18. A propos nothing, here's an article by Matheson about JDD. We should all read it so we at least have the decency of feeling bad for hoping that the Oilers don't re-sign him as anything more than an AHL platooner. Sounds like the guy would genuinely prefer to stay with the Oilers, all else being equal.

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  19. DM pretty much beat me to it but to paraphrase Vish Throttler: holy shit, we have a lot of 5th and 6th dmen.

    I think Mr. Lain Babcook is right when he says 58 gets a push with 6 but that still doesn't make him a top four dman.

    5 could probably play in a four spot if he was with a really good partner or he we could afford to run our D like the Wings did this playoffs but otherwise he's a question mark too. 49 is to be loved and hoped for but what's his ceiling.

    And I don't think 26 has fuckall trade value and his personal situation certainly mattered and could he be any fucking worst?

    So, we really need a real dman and I would be open to going after Erhoff or Bieksa if you feel they'll still be in good shape when the kids get better.

    the other way to do it is give up assets in a trade and hope that enough of our own prospects turn out to the point where we have a D by committee.

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  20. SS: You know it's been a long time since Oilers fans had anything shoved up their backsides so for that reason I'd like to see JDD get another shot!!

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  21. Christ, Dennis, let's not get back on the gay marriage thing.

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  22. Several of the players you've focused on LT are typical examples of why this is a back-to-back 30th place team. Foster is another one on that list.

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  23. SS: you could have take that one in either of these directions:

    - mocking of brownlee

    - a callback of Glenn Anderson.

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  24. Beantowners have to make one of these chances count.

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  25. @Danny

    People can't help it if they're born ambiguous.

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  26. Boston must be happy to have made the final 4. They're certainly not interested in winning this series.

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  27. Big time move by Seguin. Seguin looks like a fresh daisy compared to the rest of the Bruins that look like smashed assholes.

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  28. This game is starting to take on the look of an all star game.

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  29. ^
    I was wondering when that question was coming.

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  30. I'm more then happy with Hall.

    Me too. I admit that I'm happy to see Seguin pick it up, though, since I'm hoping it will silence some of the guys who were acting like it was no contest last year (their working theory apparently being that Central Scouting was bribed by Seguin's agent, or something).

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  31. I'm fine with 4 being our guy as well.

    Though I also want to see Seguin do well and it's easy to fall for a Big RH pivot who skates the way he does.

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