Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Desjardins over Europe 10-11

Anton Lander (to the left of Robin Lehner) is the headliner for Oiler youth in Europe this season. The Oilers have invested heavily in the CHL recently, and that combined with bringing over Pääjärvi, Hartikainen and Omark leaves the development cupboard somewhat bare at this point in time.

The Oilers may draft Adam Larsson #1 overall this summer, and there's a chance he'll spend another year in the SEL.


ANTON LANDER
  • Age 17 82gp, 5-9-14 (.171) (SEL)
  • Age 18 82gp, 9-12-21 (.256) (SEL)
  • Age 19 82gp, 14-20-34 (.415) (SEL)
Nice improvement offensively for Lander. His plus minus went the wrong way due to a late season slump by the entire TIMRA team, but his faceoff percentage improved 2 points to 49.39%. He played 18:19 with TIMRA this past season. I think it's reasonable to expect Lander to play in both Oklahoma City and Edmonton next season.


TONI RAJALA
  • Age 18 82gp, 11-15-26 (.317) (WHL)
  • Age 19 82gp, 9-13-22 (.268) (SML)
Played 15 minutes a night in Finland, and enjoyed some PP success (3 goals). Had just 4 PIMS. Scored 2 goals in his first 2 playoff games. Nothing about his season suggests Rajala is going to be a top 6 NHL talent, but he's a guy the Oilers should give a full season's worth of AHL at-bats to see what he can do.

25 comments:

  1. LT

    does the lack of a second assist in the KHL get accounted by Desjardins equivalencies?

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  2. I guess we should increase ''Passing'' guys numbers then.x

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  3. Just to be clear, my understanding is that Gabe doesn't make any special allowances for it beyond measuring the overall number once the KHL men reach the NHL.

    So, while he doesn't have a math equation to increase the assists, the overall number (over many players and several seasons) does find the right formula to let the air out of the tires.

    So, no and yes.

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  4. I'd say it does, then. Or get made irrelevant. It might mean though that if we are using the league multiplier to compare strength of leagues, the K should likely get nicked a bit (if I'm thinking straight).

    angle: like my thinking, not the straightest thing in the world

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  5. Well since it's a percentage, I think passers get shafted a bit. Theyr scoring is way more affected than a goalscorer's.

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  6. I think the equivalencies should account for the lack of second assists. There's no adjustment in his calculation but since the numbers are based on past players who have made the jump from the KHL to NHL the equivalancies would work because past players suffered through the same lack of second assists also.

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  7. spOILer: Yeah, I think the equivalency would be prone to errors either way but man it works well.

    Bill James had hundreds of players every year in all minor leagues and could follow them all down the line. He'd let air out of the tires and find the tough hitting parks in double and triple A.

    That's how he made big news when he said Jeff Bagwell would have a big season as a rookie. Actually, he didn't even realize it. Just released his little red and blue books and some writer figured out that Bagwell was projected to win the batting title.

    Seriously. New Brittan of the double A. I think that was Bagwell's team. James knew it was a tough hitter's league and damned if he didn't rip it when he made the show (albeit in houston).

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  8. I think the equivalencies should account for the lack of second assists. There's no adjustment in his calculation but since the numbers are based on past players who have made the jump from the KHL to NHL the equivalancies would work because past players suffered through the same lack of second assists also.

    Except there's just one equivalency, for points, rather than separate ones for goals and assists, right? If that's the case, then the overall results would be about right, but goal-scorers could be expected to underperform their NHLEs once in the NHL, while passers could be expected to overperform them.

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  9. "Steve Smith": Yes, correct. IF I'm right about Mr. Desjardins' formula, that would be the only reasonable conclusion.

    ronec: Ron Popiel's first company, before hitting the jackpot with ronco.

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  10. LT, and the rest of you scurvy lot, there's a classic piece by Malcolm Gladwell on Ron Popeil, I believe it's called 'The Pitchman'. Absolutely a must read, Google will pull it up.

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  11. LT

    At what point should we be worried about Lander signing his ELC?

    Is there a deadline soon?

    P.S -
    Thankyou so much for all your wonderful work. I've become a Lowetide addict.

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  12. There are second assists in KHL, why does people think otherwise?

    On Lander, he had an excellent season for Timrå despite the team short commings in the standings. Well at least they managed to avoid the relegation serie and Lander had a monster game wit ha goal and assist in their 2-1 victory over Djurgården.

    Despite his young age he has been their truly leader throughout the season. In the latter part of the season he was driving their bus on the top line after Corso got fired from the team.

    The deadline for signing Lander should be about June 15th, at least that's the date set according to the Swedish NHL transfer agreement for players under contract.

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  13. I would still like to see what the all Swedish line would do here in Edmonton. Run Horc with the wonder twins, all Swedish line, then find a tough solid two way winger for Hemsky and Gagner (maybe Hatikanen, maybe Hamilton, hey, how about this guy LA has named Penner) . You then have 3 balanced lines. If Cogs, Brule/Jones/tough grinder and Reddox are your 4th line, you have 4 lines that can play. Add your tough mean players on D and you have a solid group that would compete a lot better then this past year.

    To make it more Swedish sign Ericsson from Detroit to play big minutes on the back end and draft Larsson. We may not be able to lure the top NA free agents, but make Edmonton attractive to the European players and we'll do pretty darn good.

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  14. The Jets put together a pretty good team by tapping in to the European talent pool.

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  15. There are second assists in KHL, why does people think otherwise?

    I thought this was the case as well...hmmm...

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  16. Just looking at a random games boxscore, it looks like the second assist is alive and well in the KHL....Link

    Hey, look! Tjarnqvist got a second assist! And poor Traktor Boy was -2.

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  17. So confused...Blogger eating my posts?

    In conclusion...KHL has second assists.

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  18. In conclusion...The KHL has second assists.

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  19. Huh, guess blogger is not liking ie9. What the heck.

    In any case.... The KHL does have second assists.

    This team is a dishasta.

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  20. It appears that you need to add blogger.com to the "Compatibility View Settings" in the Tools section of ie9 for the posts to publish properly.

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  21. Hah, wow...My posts show up two days from when I typed them. Neat.

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