Math is not a friend to Ryan O'Marra. His pro-level boxcars are as frightening as Ernest Borgnine in front of a camera. In 2 and a half AHL seasons (entering this one) he's scored 19 goals and is a -44.
What can't be denied is that O'Marra looks better by eye and number than at any time since he was acquired from the Islanders. How could this be? It's sample size, right? Was there an injury in there no one told us about? Attitude problem? Bad linemates?
What the hell is going on?
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Back at the beginning, Ryan O'Marra was a very famous prospect. Redline report loved him, and called him a young Rod Brind'Amour just about the same time as they called Gilbert Brule a more skilled version of Gilbert Brule. Here's the complete Redline love-in:
- A RLR favorite. Can do it all. Very good skater with excellent, crisp edges, particularly for a big man. Works well in all three zones and is very smart positionally- knows where to be on the ice. Smart, heady player with good hands and a nose for the net. Has pro size and plays a ppro style game. Very willing to battle physically and can be dominant below the circles. Dangerous on both special teams, and uses his long reach effectively on PK unit to break up passes and transition to offence. Has very good offensive upside. Versatile, equally adept in the middle and on the wing. Gets to the net for scoring chances. Excelled in international competitions. Hasn't learned to bring it every night as of yet; needs to develop consistency, but is determined and motivated.Projection: Versatile 2nd liner on top echelon club. Style- a young Rod Brind'Amour.
Initially, there were worries over injuries; O'Marra broke his ankle September 16, 2006 and then much later in the season (I believe late April) a knee injury cost him the rest of the season. His numbers for 06-07 were 46gp, 26-25-51 in the OHL. The 07-08 season must have been a humiliation, because O'Marra spent much of the season in Stockton (ECHL) were he dominated miles from the racetrack for true blue chippers. His AHL time that season was notable in that he didn't get much done offensively. I think we can probably attritbute some of the difficulty to the ankle and knee injuries.
2008-09 was a lost season for him. Stuck at the bottom of the AHL depth chart on a horrible, horrible team, O'Marra managed just 1 goal in 62 league games. The Oilers verbal during this time was very positive, but we came to know that Kevin Prendergast was slightly more positive than Mohandas with his scouting reports. Rob Daum took little time in identifying him as a "3rd line checker" and that's the role he's been trying to fill for the last couple of seasons.
I think the turnaround for O'Marra probably had a lot to do with Rob Daum. Remember the old Marc Pouliot quotes about not accepting the "Guy Carbonneau" role on the team? I think Daum found a way to make O'Marra a useful hockey player.
- O'Marra: "I was drafted by New York (Islanders), and when I first joined their Bridgeport club two years ago, I was playing first line and on the power play. It's different for me now. I started this season as a fourth-line guy, with a role that wasn't really defined. That made it hard to find a rhythm. (When Daum arrived) He took me aside and outlined the steps I'd have to take. He put me on a checking line, and I was able to relax and play. I'm more of a defensive centerman now."
There were signs this could happen. In mid-September, I wrote an article for ON that suggested he was in the mix for an NHL job:
- Oilers love his skill set as it perfectly fits the current need: a checking C with some grit. I question his ability to hit above the Mendoza line offensively but the club likes him and there's a solid chance he makes the team.
O'Marra's opportunity at training camp (and on the current roster) is enormous. It's like being the only guy on an island with 10,000 beautiful women: no matter how bad your verbal or what you look like, opportunity is going to knock.
IS he any good? I've suggested all down the line that O'Marra is unlikely to hit above the Mendoza line. His career stats have never suggested a scoring forward and his pro stats have been subpar to poor. I suggested during the reasonable expectations series that O'Marra would spend some time with the big club this season and he's doing well so far.
I don't think we can count on him. He wasn't part of the top 20 prospect list (he did make the list winter 2007) because he will eventually get passed by the group that includes Lander, Vande Velde and Pitlick. However, Steve Tambellini's choice for the 3-4 line C roles (Cogliano, Fraser) have opened the door and with management unwilling to address in-season holes O'Marra has miles of open road and can take it to the limit.
I'm cheering like hell for Ryan O'Marra. If he can fill that 3line RH C role and chip in 10 goals a season the Oilers will be better than they are now. I think they'll replace him eventually--he's not playing the tough minutes--but his 5x5/60 looks good this morning and he scored his first NHL goal last night. We have plenty of time to talk about sample size, etc down the line.
For now, it's enough that the young man has taken advantage of the opportunity.

My daughter beat me for $10 on last night's game. Or 'a purple' in her lingo. How in Hell did I raise a Canucks fan?
ReplyDeleteWomen. What are you going to do? They simply won't follow the rules. :-)
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ReplyDeleteNever forget that if females did not exhibit momentary lapses in good judgement they never would have married us. Least your daughter recognizes a good team. She could cheer for the Flames whereupon you would have to shave her head and you would have to walk around with your head encased in a paper bag
LT
Expect lots of ROM issues are lifestyle related. The story he was not in top shape at training camp is the perfect example. 2 or 3 years ago most fit guy in training camp was Tyler Spurgeon ..........very good player who could not skate to save his life but he could control conditioning and he came to camp in superb shape.
Hard for a guy like ROM to change his mindset. Cuz if he does he would be a very good addition and cheap too
O'Marra was interviewed the other day in LA I believe and man, was I impressed. Very well spoken and clearly demonstrated part of what the Oilers like about him.
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't fit with the guy who showed up to camp in less than ideal shape so I'm not sure what to make of it. I guess that's the point of LT's post though, isn't it :~
Because of that interview I'm cheering for him though. Here's hoping his attitude matches what I saw on TV the other night.
I can't say I am an O'Marra fan, but I am definitely a Fraser anti-fan. JFJ's and Strud's place on the team I can understand because of Toonces' obessession with "grit" (thanks JW), but Fraser's role and continued place on the team makes almost no sense now that ROM has passed him in effectiveness.
ReplyDeleteNow I will go downstairs and rant at the furnace on how the team could be improved in the short term until I get it out of my system.
How in Hell did I raise a Canucks fan?
ReplyDeleteSorry, Rob, but the only answer that I can come up with is "badly".
but Fraser's role and continued place on the team makes almost no sense now that ROM has passed him in effectiveness.
ReplyDeleteROM has played 6 games this year. How's about we see if he can outplay Fraser for 40 games or so before we pass judgement?
For example, ROM did go 100% on the dot last night. But it was his first time over 50% this season. Its kind of hard to know at this point whether he will be good faceoff man or just a AAAA.
I see that Matheson says Hemmer is due back vs the Sabres and Gilbert is dinged up. Could mean they have to bring a D up and send a F down.
Candidates for OKL would be O'marra, Omark, and JFJ. Lets hope they send JFJ. There is no way he gets claimed, and if he goes down he can play 15 minutes a night and try and salvage his season and career.
Ducey: Well he gets points for comedy as he already tied Fraser in points after 6 NHL games this year.
ReplyDeleteLT: Surprised by your love for VV.
Milan Kytnar has similar boxcars, considering he's younger, could he be in the portrait for future role player (I'm not familiar with Kytnar's skillset)
It is the 30+ games Fraser has played which cause me to pass judgement. ROM has kept his head above water, but Fraser consistently does not.
ReplyDeleteThis is not a ROM paean, but a Fraser dirge. Send him back or give him Strud's spot in the PB.
Going back to basement now.
JDD just put in a pretty good period for Team Canada at the Spengler Cup... weird.
ReplyDelete77 absent from practice, 83 saying he's good to go, and Renney saying we might have to call up Petry.
Why the hell wasn't Petry called up when 2 got hurt? Is management that incompetent or are they just trying to ensure a lottery spot with death by paper cut?
Someone should draft that Hasek kid despite the PP goal... he doesn't look too bad, considering his age and inexperience.
ReplyDeleteWe'll see Khabibulin in this tournament 10 years from now.
ReplyDeleteNOT!
Well with Pittis, Metropolit, Hasek and a Kariya and a Ruzicka playing and Mess on the bench...I keep thinking like I'm watching an Oldtimers game.
ReplyDeletePlease tell me that's an 'a Ruzicka' and not 'the Ruzicka'...
Fraser bites but I haven't seen enough of O'Marra yet to know if he's the answer. Didn't watch much of the Christmas games.
That Pouliot/Guy Carbonneau bit was what soured me on LT's child...
ReplyDeleteGuy Carbonneau in his prime could play big minutes on any team on the league, while Pouliot gets waived by the Edmonton and healthy scratched by Florida. Yet being in a Carbonneau-type role was beneath him.
That disconnect from reality made me realize the MAP was a lost cause. O'Marra, on the other hand, has worked his way back into the conversation after a horrible start to his pro career. Knowing where you are is the key to getting to where you want to go.
And my usual correction, Poo was not offered a contract, not lost on waivers by the Oil.
ReplyDeleteThough I have though often that he wouldn't have been worse than Fraser.
HEY!!! Was that Youkov???? !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteRegarding Nash.
ReplyDeleteGonna have to agree to disagree with you on him LT.
If he can't get at least a PPG in the AHL with that big brain of his then he is literally garbage.
Messier is proving he is a better coach then Mac-T. ;)
ReplyDeleteAnd down goes Spartak!
ReplyDeleteThat's a good D on Team Canada:
Mark Popovic
Joel Kwiatkowski
Duvie Westcott
Cory Murphy
Micki Dupont
Brendan Bell
Curtis Murphy
Travis Roche
Four or Five tweeners there.
A guy I was interested in watching on the Spartak D was Oleg Piganovich.
A big guy, 6.4.
He had 21 goals in the KHL as a 23-year-old in 07-08.
He got hurt in the First Period, though.
All of those defensemen are better then Strudwick.
ReplyDeleteSmarmy Boss: Yeah, he started very slowly but is close to a point a game over the last 15 games or so. I think he's going to be a player, although the guy MBS plucked in the draft looks like a better one.
ReplyDeleteWith Petry now officially called and Hemsky ready to go they have to send someone down, right?
ReplyDeleteOr put Gilbert/Vandermeer on IR?
Speaking of which, what's the deal w/Vandermeer?
http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=5&id=88214
ReplyDeleteWatch that. Hilarious.
Strudwick is apparently really a funny guy.
And look out for Dubby Dub's comment on Smac.
TSN has 2 on the IR.
ReplyDeleteNot sure when that happened.
Ryan Jones needs to learn the difference between Sweden and Switzerland (sort of like that Oklahoma sportswriter who had Gerber coming from Sweden).
ReplyDeleteIf you want some Strudwick humour look at the Strudwick Facebook video.
ReplyDeleteThere's that part where he keeps asking Maggie about getting poked, just awesome.
Ernie won an Oscar for Marty.
ReplyDeleteRyan O'Marra is no Ernest Borgnine.
More like Carrot Top. Or that Hey Verne guy.
I'll have to watch O'Marra a little more closely next game. The first two I saw him play, he was really useless. Looked a lot slower than I remember him in the WJCs.
ReplyDeleteLike most of the Oilers' bottom six, if this team was good I doubt we'd be talking about him.
I'd like to know what his faceoff stats were in the A and why he isn't being used for PK duty or PK faceoffs in the bigs.
ReplyDeleteQuite interesting to be known!!!
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