Thursday, December 9, 2010

Oilers recall Omark, O'Marra














This is Linus Omark. His first name rhymes with venus and other words. I have a great idea for a nickname, but don't want to share it because it's really good and you'll never guess. :-)

Linus Omark is a breath of fresh air for Oiler fans. Upset when sent out, he said "there's a lot of politics here." Cool. Hockey needs more individuals and fewer of the Crash Davis lines-by-rote.

Omark was quoted in the Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet and in that article dropped some beauties into the punch bowl. Not really, but it's more interesting than anything else you'll read from a hockey player today. One quote I like a lot:
  • "Sure I check if they’ve won and if they would call I’d be really, really happy. But my focus for now has to remain here (and on Oklahoma). What I’m missing the most right now is interest in the team and playing in front of a big crowd."
The kid's a hockey player. Here's hoping he busts a gut on the back-check.
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Ryan O'Marra's recall was somewhat predictable. When you have exactly one right-handed center who can penalty-kill at the pro level then he's never out of the conversation. In the fall, I mentioned O'Marra had a good chance to make the team in this post at ON. He in fact did not make the team (Oilers were sweating in the worry room over Jeff Deslauriers getting plucked off waivers and then winning the Stanley).

A few days later, Jason Gregor posted the following in this game day thread for the Joey Moss:
  • Lowetide's post regarding Ryan O'Marra starts a debate in the pressbox. Ryan Rishaug politely disagrees. We both agree that O'Marra's conditioning looks questionable.
I think that points out one major reason we need mainstream media. When I wrote he had a chance to make the team, I had no idea his conditioning was so poor. Two msm guys point out his conditioning, that's a big deal. O'Marra has a beauty chance here, but one has to question his dedication based on what Mr Gregor and Mr Rishaug said that night in the pressbox. Disappointing.

88 comments:

  1. Yeah that might be a case for MSM or they might be talking out of their ass.

    I hope Omark plays like Lenny Dykstra on skates.

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  2. I have to agree with Renny, it's going to be exciting to see how the two new kids do. On balance I think O'Marra has a better chance on sticking. He has a lot less too do. Play 4 minutes on a checking line, win half of his face-offs, and PK better than Fraser and/or Cogs.

    Omark on the other hand has to light up the NHL with highlight reel goals. At least he will get an extended audition, and maybe he can carve out a niche for himself as a PP specialist.

    I can't wait for Friday night!

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  3. Linus is going to have to make some hard plays to stay in Tom Renney's lineup. He's not going to be able to play a perimeter game, he has to get it deep and fight in those tight spaces. Has to keep his head up too, or else he might get stood up when he's playing with the puck. Etc.

    I'm interested to know the nickname LT. I named one of my fantasy hockey teams 'The Hard Linuses' this year. Ha.

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  4. If 23 can back check and have reasonable defensive zone coverage 67 is immediately redundant on the team.

    If the other forward options weren't 46,22,33 he'd already be redundant.

    TO and FLA needs scoring wingers, wonder what 67 would fetch?

    Unless ROM borrows a pair of 83 or 91's rocket skates I think his ceiling is 4C, just not fast enough to be a 3C.

    Gonna be fun to watch both on Friday.

    Gonna keep an eye on twitter to see what Renney has as line combos today.

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  5. I'm glad it was both Omark and O'Marra who got the recall, they earned it. I'd like to see Reddox up here as well though. He's be way more useful then JFJ f.e.

    Also, nice to see you're refereeing to my translation of the Aftonbladet article.. I'd be even happier if you could change the link to http://swedishoil.dohfos.eu/post/2085956371/linus-omark-can-see-himself-staying-in-okc-barons-the (which is my rather new blog on Oilers and OKC Barons - "Swedish Oil".

    Cheers LT.

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  6. TO and FLA needs scoring wingers, wonder what 67 would fetch?

    Dvorak is out too, they just need depth in general.

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  7. Florida I'm not sure about, I mean they may push for a playoff spot, they're not horrendously out of it, or they might just let the cards fall and draft.

    Toronto on the other hand will do whatever they can to make the playoffs or gain a few extra points. Woodguy has been harping on a swap for a young D out of TO for some time now and it makes sense. Don't know how much value Cogs and Brule have, and how that matches up the Leafs young D. Gunnarsson aside, Brule for Aulie + low pick would be nice.

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  8. I like nicknames that have a more complex history (as opposed to just adding 'itty' on the end of the guys name).

    Last night as I was driving in my car, this particular King Missile song came on the radio (I think its the only King Missile song). Somehow it makes me think of the phrase 'Detachable Linus'. That is way too long of a nickname though, so I suggest that we go with "Detach" and that they play the guitar sound from that song everytime he scores a goal...

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  9. I've liked the idea of Brule to Sunrise for Olesz.

    The Oilers have the Cap space to carry a useful if overpaid forward.

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  10. Mr. Debakey:

    Brule for Olesz? Do you really think he's useful?

    I know FLA plays a brutal brand of hockey but he's never done much for the money.

    Am hoping O'marra plays decent this go around. Remember his play last year on his brief call-up and he looked over-matched. Not that that was unexpected but hopefully that brief experience will help him adjust to the speed of the game.

    If he can just win some face-offs I'd be happy.

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  11. uni - Aulie is going nowhere I think, apparently Burke has said that he had to be a part of the Phaneuf trade or it would have fallen through

    Bullshit? Maybe but he'd look dumb if he said that and then turned around and traded him.

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  12. I'm interested on what these lines are going to look like. Apparently Gagner moves up and the Penner line stays together which means Paajarvi and Jones are the orphans who get Fraser or O'Marra as their centre. And in that case Omark would slot in on the fourth line, correct?

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  13. I also am excited to see Omark in the bigs.
    I hope that "we all" do not set the bar too high expectation wise.
    If a trade was eventually to come down the pipe, would a prospective D man not be the best situation for the Oilers.A few more years to mature could help the salary cap and stockpiles for the big cup run in 2012?

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  14. Gagner-Hall-Eberle
    Cogliano-Brule-Penner
    O'Marra-Omark-Pajaarvi
    Gongshow

    I'd think that'd be what they do if they want to move Gagner up, and doesn't look as bad as I first thought. Still though, lots of gongshow potential. Friday will be interesting.

    I like Aulie, but if not him, what do you think Cogs or Brule are worth to Burke?

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  15. I'm with Smarmy... I don't see how that makes a case for the MSM.

    He didn't say why a player he only sees once a year (at TC) looked to him like he had conditioning problems...

    I.e. the training staff said it, or he's sporting a beer belly that wasn't there last year, or he's the only guy on the ice gasping for breath after drills.

    But he provided no support for that statement. So is it just a case of "saw him bad"?

    Making an unsupported claim is pretty typical of the MSM and is one of things so very wrong with it. Hence, Wikileaks.

    So maybe Gregor was right... or maybe not. We'll never know without some evidence, and without evidence this allegation shouldn't be entered into O'Marra's file.

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  16. Brule for Olesz? Do you really think he's useful?

    The Coach has been tracking Panther Chances.
    He should have an interesting and useful opinion.

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  17. Cogs + Brule for Weiss? Would Tallon do that?

    As much as I'd like to have a guy who's diminutive name would be "Roti" Weiss is what this team desperately needs.

    As an aside, Frolik would be killer, but no way Tallon trades him.

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  18. uni - I doubt Tallon does that deal for Weiss either. If he moves him he is going to be looking for blue chippers or picks, not a couple of maybes.

    jmo

    as for the leafs as a trade partner the coaching staff feels that their forwards are too small and easily pushed around

    sound familiar? ;)

    so I don't think they'd have interest in Cogliano or Brule.

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  19. But Brule has JAM! Le sigh.

    Where's Mad Mike when you need him. I'm not too familiar with the prospects for Florida, but Toronto does have some nice names that aren't blue chippers.

    I suppose I'd be happy with a package D'Amigo and Reimer with picks tossed in for balance. I guess it's a pipe dream getting useful D out of the 3rd line minute men.

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  20. I am looking forward to watching some posters change their tune from "Tambo is an idiot for not calling up Linus" to "Hmm, Linus needs some further development in the minors".

    Bad timing to be dumping Brule and Cogs. They are at a low value, and the team is short NHL players.

    I also think Cogliano is similar to Matt Lombardi. It may take a few years, but he is going to be a very useful player.

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  21. Mr Debakey: If I'm Florida there's no way in hell I trade Olesz for Brule.

    Olesz's producing more this year than Brule and he's been injured for 9 games. Not to add that Olesz is way more responsible defensively.

    Then again team flushed down Michael Grabner to save Darcy Hordichuk, so you never know.

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  22. I am looking forward to watching some posters change their tune from "Tambo is an idiot for not calling up Linus" to "Hmm, Linus needs some further development in the minors".

    There are a few reasons to call THE EVALUATOR an idiot (although I think his dumber stuff is heavily influenced by Vish), but I don't recall many calling him that for 23 going down.

    Not calling up 23 now would be idiotic since he has an out clause next year for the KHL. He needs to audition this year. Period. Not taking advantage of the openings in the top 9 would be terrible.

    Its all moot now, he's here.

    THE EVALUATOR did the right thing.

    He has EVALUATED correctly.

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  23. There are a few reasons to call THE EVALUATOR an idiot (although I think his dumber stuff is heavily influenced by Vish), but I don't recall many calling him that for 23 going down.

    You evidently don't spend much time at Oilersnation.

    I salute you.

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  24. I thought "youtube" was Omark's nickname. A couple Omarkian shootout goals and it'll stay that way.

    But I think his defensive game is going to get exposed. And he might not see the space he's used to seeing as his coverage is going to be a LOT faster. Could be a good wakeup call for youtube.

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  25. I dubbed him the Swedish Hockey Jesus a long time ago, and I'm sticking with it.

    SHoJe has a nice ring to it.

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  26. Oh my, the Copper'n'Blue guys have a funny caption on top of their site:

    "We have HOPE - Hall Omark Pajaarvi Eberle"

    Wonder how long they've been waiting to trot that one out.

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  27. What a fun season we're having.

    1) - Whip the Flames, destroying all their confidence in game one - check

    2) - Get ritually slaughtered for about a dozen or so games, falling nicely into lottery position - check

    3) - Watch the uber-rookies begin to emerge as bona fide NHL stars - check

    4) - See former prospects miraculously develop into good NHL players(Peckham, Dubnyk) - check

    5) - See Hemsky/Horcoff majorly injured by Christmas - check

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  28. Lines are apparently:

    Hall-Gagner-Eberle
    Paajarvi-Cogliano-Penner
    Omark-O'Marra-Jones
    Jacques-Fraser-Brule

    Don't like.

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  29. Brule is buried deep, deep, deeply inside Renney's doghouse right now.

    I'm surprised it's Penner switching wings. I had thought Omark could play either side for some reason.

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  30. LMHF - they're kind of fucked any way you look at it really.

    I don't mind those lines because we still have Penner with Cogliano which keeps him afloat and Paajarvi also gets a boost. He has been playing well so giving him Penner to keep that going is a smart move, imo.

    After that its really chicken salad and chicken shit as in its hard to make the former out of the latter. The depth up the middle is poor and this proves it. At least they gave Omark a guy who has scored some goals to play with.

    The main problem, as always, is the presence of Jacques. Pointless.

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  31. I don't get 27 on RW.

    Isn't 91 more comfortable on RW?

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  32. It would be really cool if we could call Linus Omark Ω (ohm's) but that's the opposite of electrifying.

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  33. UPR...

    I think there would be some resistance to your idea.

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  34. Well it appears most site's bios list Omark as LW/RW, or simply "winger".

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  35. Woodguy: I was wondering the exact same thing. Paajarvi by all accounts is more comfortable on the right side, and Penner is a natural LW.

    Of course there is always the possibility that the MSM tweeting the lines weren't paying that close of attention. A rfemote possibility of course, but not impossible. :)

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  36. re: JFJ. The boys on Oilers Lunch were just talking about him, still citing the back surgery and asking "how long do you have to wait for him to feel 100%?" To which my immediate out-loud answer was, "It's been six fucking years so far!"

    Last game he played 8:21 and produced the following "events" on the Event Summary:

    Shots on goal ................ 0
    Shots that were blocked ... 0
    Missed shots ................. 0
    Hits ........................... 0
    Giveaways ................... 0
    Takeaways ................... 0
    Blocked Shots ................ 0
    Faceoffs Won/Lost .......... 0

    So remind me, WTF is he here for?

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  37. Bruce, Gregor specifically wrote that Penner was moving to starboard.

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  38. Bruce...

    I can't find any site listing Magnus PI as a right winger. I wouldn't object to seeing how he handles the off wing, but I'm wondering where "Paajarvi by all accounts is more comfortable on the right side" comes from. Did he fill in there for Timra?

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  39. Re: Lowetide's nickname for Linus...

    My guess is Dick Omark, or Dick. Maybe Richard?

    Too obvious, I know

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  40. If he becomes a 5 on 4 specialist, maybe it's... The PP.

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  41. spOILer said: "UPR...I think there would be some resistance to your idea."

    Very funny. Reminds me of the great humour on Big Bang Theory.

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  42. More gems from Oilers Lunch: Linus wants to be called "LIE-nus" now, the way we learned it reading Peanuts. What more proof do you need that he's been reading Lowetide?

    re: MPS, the guys over at C&B have been talking about him preferring RW, can't think of the exact article(s) it appeared in right now. I thought he played RW at the Worlds, too. Maybe dohfOs or another of the Swedish readers has some insights on this.

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  43. Big Bang Theory is fun, but The I.T. Crowd just blows it out of the water. BBT seems to have dumbed down the humour quite a bit, and that's saying something since it wasn't upper echelon to begin with ;).

    As for LT's handle for Omark, I think Doogie2K figured it out:

    Linus Envy

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  44. These are TV shows, I take it?

    @Bruce:

    Doesn't the word "preferring" imply that it was spoken by Paajarvi? Or is his preference an inference by C&B?

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  45. I will be moderately pleased if it is Linus Envy, shortened to NV.

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  46. Yeah, I think Pat's got it right because, really, how can you please everyone given what we have to choose from?

    - it looks like 89's up top because he's our best pivot so it gives the kids their best chance to keep succeeding and from the coach's POV this will be our main match-up line.

    - I like that 91 gets to play with 27 and that he isn't back playing with the dregs. My only concern is that we saw 89 having some chem with 91 when he'd defer to him and let him carry the puck and that seems to be something 13 likes to do himself. On the plus side 27 draws a lot of attention down low and 91 seems up for that battle as of late so he'll have a lot of room down there to move and a good partner to help him out.

    The worrisome thing about all this is that 23 doesn't get to play in the top six and I guess the only way that could have been remedied is if 27 played pivot and 13 and 23 swapped spots.

    I'd really like to see 23 show us something and wind up playing with 27 instead of 67 once everyone gets back.

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  47. spOILer: agreed, there would be resistance, but I was amped about giving an Oiler a symbol as a nick name.

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  48. I don't suppose "Cock Mark" would pass close inspection either?

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  49. What about "The big O".

    ...Think about it...

    A nice three-step nickname for the kid sounds just about right, considering his propensity for stickwork...

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  50. If we want to get into the Ohm's Law/Omark a little further (and who doesn't?):

    The impedance of an ideal resistor is purely real and is referred to as a resistive impedance:

    ZR = R

    Proving mathematically that Linus Omark is Zorro.

    Wow, I suck at this, I need to get back to work.

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  51. "He didn't say why a player he only sees once a year (at TC) looked to him like he had conditioning problems..."

    Does it matter why?!.. if a guy is fat and/or slow, he just is.. and it can be apparent even if it is the first time you have ever seen them play...

    But 'why' is he fat and slow.. this isnt daytime tv.. who gives a...

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  52. Dennsis: "The worrisome thing about all this is that 23 doesn't get to play in the top six"

    Was thinking this as well. If he is "replacing" Hemsky, at least he will have more than a game or 2 to show (or not) what he has got.

    If Hemsky is out a month, then I see at least 11 or 12 games Omark should get into....maybe he works his way up the lineup by the end of it? IF he does, the very least is is should up his trade value.

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  53. I suspect Omark will be where he is for a couple games, but get a whack of PP time. If he succeeds, he'll be bumped up.

    This is proper procedure, but should've been true with Hemsky and Horcoff in the lineup as well. Do we even need to have a debate about the likelihood of Omark helping us win over Jacques? MacIntyre? Fraser even?

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  54. LMHF,

    33/22/16 all play on the 4th so 23 isn't in competition with them.

    He has been handed an opportunity to eat 67's lunch, I hope he takes it.

    I hope someone takes him aside and says "Brule has no clue how to forecheck, backcheck and isn't picking up his Dzone coverage. Do that and you stay"

    23=Linus=Penis=Dick=Richard=Rich?

    Should we call him Rich?

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  55. Smarmy do you want the "Nails" Lenny Dystra ala mouth full of Redman making centre field look like a toxic waste dump, making clutch HR's in extra innings? Or do you want a "Players Club" Magazine, "Nails Investment" Dykstra.

    Frankly I'd rather see a hard as nails Linus as opposed to a Flaccid Linus.

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  56. U P R said...
    spOILer: agreed, there would be resistance, but I was amped about giving an Oiler a symbol as a nick name.

    Currently your Omark as Oh Mega! is the best nick I've heard, but how will we know you're not referring to O'Marra when they're both bolting through the gap? I can see our circuits getting crossed there. But we need something... I fear a whole battery of Oiler fans might find Penis a bit too revolting.

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  57. "LMHF,

    33/22/16 all play on the 4th so 23 isn't in competition with them."

    Why not play him on the 4th? Teams have broken in new players there for years; especially good teams. We should be replicating that behavior. I'm not a believer at all in the banger-crasher-fighter fourth line model unless you've got 9 scorers all making a boatload of dough as your top 9.

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  58. I have a hunch that these lines are not carved in stone, neither inter-game nor intra-game.

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  59. LMHF,

    You are preaching to the choir about breaking guys in on the 4th.

    The way Renney runs the bench is different so I'm just trying to work with what the situation is.

    Speaking of eating other's lunch, ROM has a huge opportunity to do that to Fraser, and to a certain extent make Cogliano more expendable than he already is.

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  60. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7uCLxJW1bQ

    I can't believe how well a guy that small protects the puck. Yes, it'll be different against a d-man who's 6'3, 220, but it's still impressive. Also, I don't think anyone has better hands in tight. If you were a wing-starved team like the Penguins, how hard would your Linus get imagining pairing him with Crosby or Malkin?

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  61. woodguy

    - I'd agree on O'Marra. This is a big chance for him. You never know when pedigree will show up. I'm not as optimistic with him as I'd be with someone who was a late bloomer and brought the assets he does, but you never know.

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  62. Do we even need to have a debate about the likelihood of Omark helping us win over Jacques? MacIntyre? Fraser even?


    Yeah, McIntyre and his 7 games (and about 21 minutes TOI) and JFJ with his 10 games have really held back this team. Let's complain about Strudwick, too. He is killing this team from the pressbox.

    The reality is this team needs some tough guys to deal with the Boogaards, Colton Orrs, etc. Ideally you have guys who can play a little too but that is a luxury the Oilers (and a lot of teams don't have).

    I am happy to see Youtube up here but the reality is that if he is a regular part of this team, they only get smaller.

    Go look at the tape from the NYR game to see what happens when a determined group of big guys decides to make things hard on the little guys.

    A small team has trouble breaking traps, has trouble on defence and checking, has trouble forechecking, can't win faceoffs, etc.

    I guess what I am saying is that from a roster construction perspective, Omark is not going to add to the team; ultimately (next year) he has to beat out another small guy/ pacifist on this team that has too many already.

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  63. Ducey: LOL.
    ''The reality is this team needs some tough guys to deal with the Boogaards, Colton Orrs, etc.''

    Riiiiighhhtttt. We really need to employ guys to counter-attack guys who play 4 minutes a game.

    Sure.

    And FFS, is a player has 0 use to a team, but it doesn't ''Affect it negatively'' that's not a reason to let them there. They still have 0 fucking use.

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  64. Just wonder how MTL and DET deals with those guys without any big tool hanging around hmmmmm.

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  65. Peter

    - Eberle's just as good stickhandling in a phone booth, but if Linus shows he's up to the NHL game, those 2 plus a big, mean centre would be dynamite.

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  66. I'll throw "Mulva" out there.
    Too clever?

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  67. Ducey - "Yeah, McIntyre and his 7 games (and about 21 minutes TOI) and JFJ with his 10 games have really held back this team. Let's complain about Strudwick, too. He is killing this team from the pressbox."

    That is so far from the point it's rather unbelievable that you'd even bother saying it. You put as many people on your roster who will help you win as possible. You don't keep a bunch of slugs around because "oh they don't hurt us too badly...". On what planet will that help you win? Venus?

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  68. I've been hanging around for awhile and never posted. I remember Magnus becoming Ultra Magnus for awhile, which became condom for a bit.

    As coarse as it sounds - it might be fun to have condom and penis on the one team. do you reckon they could score? ;)

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  69. I just listened to the Omark soundclip posted on the official site and I am excited for the Lienus Omark era already:)

    My personal favourite was when they asked him if he tried any of this fancy moves in practice today and he said "No, the ice is just too bad out there."

    Now, people who actually watch the games and aren't told what to say have known now for years that the ice at Rexall is FAR from what it used to be: it used to be Katie Holmes in The Gift and now it's Katie Holmes dressed down whenever Tom Cruise let's her outside the door.

    So, the young man's off to a fine candid start.

    Also, a but dismissive about what he'd have to do to impress Renney and if he'd improved as a defensive player.

    This is gonna be fun to watch because guys who do spinarama moves up at centre-ice in SO's are obviously different people and different people don't seem to last long and/or don't really play for the Oilers.

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  70. small guy/ pacifist

    You mistake size with ability to win puck battles.

    One of 23's reported attributes is coming out of heavy traffic with the puck.

    I don't care how big a guy is if he retains/attains possession of the puck.

    JFJ is 6'4 and can't make the puck move in the right direction.

    The forwards who don't win battles on this team are:

    67,13,91,16,22,33

    89 used to be in this group, but his game has grown by leaps and bounds this year (and he"'s only 21 yay!)

    91 is coming along and will get there. There is always patience for rookies with a pedigree.

    Its freaking awesome that 4 and 14 don't make this list. Rookies usually do.

    13/67/16 have enough NHL games under their belt to make a decision to replace them when possible.

    22/33 never had it, never will.

    Best team in the league is the Wings. List of their players who consistently lose battles? 0

    List of Wings who are in the lineup for their size and not much else? 0

    List Wings who can play in physical games and not get intimidated? 23

    There is nothing wrong with striving to have hockey players at all 23 roster spots.

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  71. Go look at the tape from the NYR game to see what happens when a determined group of big guys decides to make things hard on the little guys.

    And that was with MacIntyre dressed! Imagine how bad it would have been if we'd had a hockey player in his place.

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  72. If we want a big centre next year, or simply a new centre that can play in the top 6, we'll need to trade for it. After Brad Richards, the best UFA centre under 35 is Tim Connolly (made of glass). The only other decent centres available are Arnott (37), and Handzus (very effective, but 3rd liner).

    I could see having these lines by the fall of 2012, if not earlier:

    Hall-Gagner-Eberle
    Paajarvi-*big centre*-Omark
    ________-Horcoff-_________


    Internally, the blanks could be filled by guys like Lander, Pitlick, and Hamilton. I would imagine that one of O'Marra or VandeVelde will stick around on the 4th line. Hartikainen has a shot in that bottom 6 if he improves his skating. If just half of those 6 become solid NHL players, and we trade Hemsky or Penner for a big centre, we're set at forward for a long time. Maybe Cogliano/Brule, and the remainder of Hemsky/Penner could help us get a couple of d-men as well.

    I think Whitney, Gilbert, and Peckham are here for the future, and we can get 1-2 out of Petry, Plante, and Marincin to play in the top-6. We need one top-pairing D to play with Whitney, and then get a Thomas/Backstrom/Anderson/Rinne/Halak/Hiller out of nowhere. Then we're set.

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  73. "There is nothing wrong with striving to have hockey players at all 23 roster spots."

    That comment, and the logic that led up to it, should end that debate. (Don't know if it will, but it should).

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  74. (Don't know if it will, but it should).

    Sadly, I do know if it will.

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  75. Why does everyone endlessly construct different line combinations etc, when that's the job of Renney the coach?

    And while I'm in the mood, what's the use in re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to start with? This is a bottom feeding team, who's only hope of improvement lies in the rookies, plus other players with less than 3 years NHL time improving by leaps and bounds.

    PS: WTF is JF Jacques doing in the NHL?

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  76. Anyone have faceoff stats for ROM from the AHL?

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  77. List Wings who can play in physical games and not get intimidated? 23

    Number of Oilers that can do the same? 12?

    Thats why the big guys keep getting chances.

    I am not suggesting that 22 or 33 deserve a spot longterm but FFS you have to have some people that can handle the heavy going.

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  78. In software we have things like the Capability Maturity Model. It makes my eyes glaze over, but I've heard of it. The Wings are at freaking level 5. When you're not at level 5, emulating level 5 doesn't necessarily buy you much.

    Cribbing from the bathroom wall of all knowledge:

    1. Initial (chaotic, ad hoc, individual heroics)
    2. Managed - agreed metrics
    3. Defined - the process is defined/confirmed
    4. Quantitatively managed
    5. Optimizing - deliberate improvement

    As far as the Oilers are concerned over the past two decades, maybe we need to extend this to 0 and -1, and for the Islanders, even more rings of perdition.

    Level 1 got us to game seven SCF. We're running right now around level 1 1/2 on circumstantial evidence of a plan. It might be managed, but if so, whatever management is taking place is curiously impervious to outward scrutiny.

    If JFJ out of the question on a team edging ever so slowly to level 2, building on the rubble from the aftermath of heroics gone sour?

    If the post-CBA NHL had an efficient flea market for serviceable spare parts, ridding the team of a few rare performers would be a slam dunk. Unfortunately, I haven't seen a ton of evidence that serviceable spare parts can be enticed into the icy Edmonton orbit. Overpays with issues will show up. No shortage of evidence on that front.

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  79. Anonymous, you should get a handle. That was brilliant.

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  80. Omark is a tough little bugger. He can take it and he wins puck battles. He'll be fine as long as he backchecks and isn't a turnover machine.

    Which ... may be a problem.

    BTW this may be old news but Oilers tweet has Penner on the left and Magnus on the right on that line.

    Its a dog's breakfast once you get past the top two lines but I'm happy as long as they support the big three which is what they are doing.

    Basically Omark is on the fourth line however you cut it. The fourth line was Fraser, Jones and Stortini and now its Omark instead of Stortini and it happens to be the third line.

    Thats what you call an oh shit moment.

    Aw fuck what are you going to do. The next couple of months should be awful enough to cement that lottery pick.

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  81. Ducey: If they can't then they never will learn with a fat tool around them.

    And you have 0 proof all the wings handle that. Absolute 0.

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  82. Basically Omark is on the fourth line however you cut it. The fourth line was Fraser, Jones and Stortini and now its Omark instead of Stortini and it happens to be the third line.

    Disagree.'

    Since 83 went down 91-89-28 have been seeing 3rd minutes, so its an argument that 23-ROM-28 is the third line.

    Another argument is that there is no way in God's green Earth that 46-16-67 is a third line, especially with 67 in the dog house.

    Its like there are 2 4ths.

    There are also two 2nd lines.

    No odd numbered lines to be seen.

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  83. With all the talk about Omark, no one has really remarked how amazing it is that O'marra is getting some NHL time that he sort of, or sort of almost, deserves.

    That's a huge turnaround for a kid who looked in trouble at the AHL level for a long time, who started off so strong.

    That's a roller coster of a career. If he can make it even as a sometimes NHL 4th liner/tweener, that's not half bad.

    I consider all information about "conditioning" and "effort" to be BS when coming from Edmonton media, e.g. "The Moreau's really have everyone in great shape" or "Penner's game lacks effort."

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  84. Anon, maybe they should implement some Agile, set up 1 week sprints with deliverables and have daily standups and improve communication to allow for maximum adaptability to rapidly take advantage of opportunities and overcome obstacles.

    Software development is fun....

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  85. Oh right, when the stakeholder (Katz) is being informed by an inept business analyst (Lowe) and indecisive product manager (Tambellini) there's very little the scrummaster (Renney) and the development team (the team) can do.

    All comes down to management competence and direction...I'm not impressed with Oilers management. They do seem to do a bangup job with hiring though, so I have faith in their HR department.

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