Petry SHOULD be impressive at this rookie camp, he's 23 years old!!! Petry has had a solid 12 months and is on track to have a solid pro career. In fact, he has a wider range of skills than any of the other blueliners who are trying to work their way into regular NHL work (Peckham, Plante, Petry, Motin, Chorney).
But pushing him? Defense is a tough position to play, and we've seen a tremendous amount of on the job training in the NHL over the last 5 years (beginning with painful errors by Matt Greene in the Stanley run. Costly) and there is no evidence pushing these kids pays off in terms of development.
So, it was a real pleasure to hear Tom Renney talk about this player and his rookie camp this afternoon. Renney: "We have to make sure--even with a player who has been very impressive here--as more of an adult looking player here at this camp; Jeff is not an NHLer today. It's not the wrong thing for us to make sure he goes to Oklahoma City, so he can get a feel for the physical nature of the game. We can expect too much of this player who is so good in so many areas, and then three months from now we're saying 'what happened?' Well let's not go there."
That might just be the most encouraging thing I've heard all summer.
when i heard that quote on the radio today i wanted to stand up and applaud. finally gave me a glimmerhope for the future of the oilers blueline.
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Oh FINALLY. Jesus H. Christ finally we have a GM who understands what it means to build a team. Such a relief. Thanks for sharing this, LT.
ReplyDeleteStriatic: are you from Edmonton originally?
ReplyDeleteVery encouraging. I hope Renney can help force Chorney back down to OKC, as well.
A great statement by Renney. I am developing a good case of irrational overexuberance about the direction of this team. I hope not to be cured soon.
ReplyDeleteStriatic: No worries, I live in Waterloo, Ontario. Oilfans are everywhere. I love it! I've always liked listening to what Tom Renney has to say. I was glad when Tambo moved OTC upstairs and gave these kids more of a complete coach in Renney.
ReplyDeleteI live in the Okanagan and listen to Edmonton sports radio everyday while I'm working. Know several people in the area as well that do the same. Nothing bandwagonish about Oiler fans. We bleed Oil regardless of where we are from.
ReplyDeleteGetting the radio broadcasts and the talk radio through the internet was a pretty awesome thing for those of us that don't live in Alberta.
I am also encouraged by Renney's words, but do think it's important to separate quality D and G prospects from F prospects.
ReplyDeleteI think nearly all D probably benefit from some AHL time. Most F probably do as well, but there seem to be more F capable of making the jump than D.
That said, there's probably some case for guys like Paajarvi and Eberle to see the AHL, if nothing else to get some PP ice time against higher quality, but not NHL calibre, penalty killing.
Ditto from Regina. Team 1260 streams for the most part of the day (except for Rome).
ReplyDeleteRenney gives me hope that NHL is still about professional coaches who have developed their trade (as opposed to former players "learning" on the job).
Good stuff from Renney there.
ReplyDeleteAlso wanted to chime in with a belated congrats on the new gig LT. Its a little bittersweet for me in that as I get older I am against change for the most part, it can't lead to anything good ;), and I am sad to see you follow Covered in Oil and the Battle of Alberta into the sunset. Damn.
Having said that the difference is that you will still be writing and I will still be reading. I know this will sound awfully snobby but I will likely, like Louise and Rivers and others, not take part in much of the commentary over in the new place. I read Willis there and Brownlee as well but finding reasonable commentary there is awfully hard to do. Oh well so it goes.
Couldn't happen to a greater guy though. This blog and CinO were my first introductions to this world and from there I discovered IOF, Ty and Bof A and you guys all inspired me to start up my own little spot back in February of 2006.
Thanks for all of the grreat memories and good luck in the new digs.
Pat
The way I see it, there's two types of guys when it comes to defense:
ReplyDelete1)The guys who get into and relish the physical side of playing defense
2)The guys who just play positionally sound D and want to move the puck.
And IMO you're never going to turn one into the other, like putting horseshoes on a dog.
That's why I'm not down on Chorney, since he's never going to be a physical defenseman.
ANY of the young guys who need to go to OKC for a year or so should go there, and Oiler fans just need to be patient and not expect all our kids to be stars right away.
ReplyDeleteI also find it interesting that the coach would come flat out and say this. In the past, I don't know that the GM or KP would have appreciated these kind of comments coming to light.
ReplyDeleteMore evidence that the entire org is buying into the idea of a re-build. What a relief. There will be some painful times this winter, but the course is correct.
I hope the plan is to send them all down with a clear message that they need to dominate at the AHL level before they get to the big leagues.
ReplyDeleteI think it will take a lot of discipline on the part of ST3.0 to send the guys down after they have a strong training camp, but I think he is resolved to do so for most of the youth. Good for him.
Renney's comments seem to reflect the new team policy, particularly the way he added them as a caution after stating how strong of a player Petry was.
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Finally, there seems to be a collective plan between coaches and mgmt. If the coach decides a player is not ready and is best served by another year of development in the minors (see Cogliano) then it's up to the Gm to get his coach an appropriate player for the big club.
ReplyDeleteGive me Boynton or Krajicek for a year or two and make Petry force them off the roster
I really don't see a need to put MPS in Oklahoma if he's good in camp.
ReplyDeleteHe's played against men in a league that is as good if not better then the AHL and excelled.
Eberle I could understand but MPS and Hall should be given every opportunity to make the team.
If Simon Gagne hits waivers and the Oilers don't pick him up they're idiots.
ReplyDeleteWhile it'd take a lot of luck for the roster to make the playoffs... it's not insane to think that Gagne could be on pace for 30+ goals at the deadline.
And if he is, he's bringing back a lot.
3/4 of $5,000,000 is $3,750,000...
You're gambling some money there for sure, but surely the Oilers would buy a blue chipper and a 1st round pick for $3,750,000 straight up if it became possible...?
Which is pretty much what a healthy Simon Gagne playing on Hemsky's wing gets you. Also pushes all the kids down the roster...
Oh...
ReplyDeleteAnd Tom Renney actually sounds sane when he talks.
It's a real nice change.
only the players who NEED to be sent down should go down. if management thinks a kid is ready to go in the NHL, he should play here.
ReplyDeleteI am from Edmonton originally but haven't lived there for about a decade now.
ReplyDeleteSeattle is wonderful but would be much less so if I couldn't stream Oilers games and listen to 630 and 1260 and follow blogs like Lowetide's.
Still, it is ridiculous the number of Edmonton area radio ads I listen to every day.
regarding Renney: seems like he's having a hell of a time watching these prospects. if he's legitimately excited without being Pollyanna about the situation, that's a great sign.
ReplyDeleteregarding Gagne: I don't think he'll end up on waivers, but if he does, the oil should pick him up. another advantage to finishing last. I think he'll end up traded though, after waiving his NTC.
only the players who NEED to be sent down should go down. if management thinks a kid is ready to go in the NHL, he should play here.
ReplyDeleteWell, it depends on how you define NEED. I think a bit of time in the AHL is good for attitude as well as skill development. It probably is pretty eye-opening when you are sitting in a room with older guys who never made the jump. To me, just being able to play in the NHL is not as important as the entire development process. Even 10-20 games in the AHL can be beneficial for a player in my opinion.
What's the harm? I would doubt that even a player like MPS would feel slighted by a 1/4 of a season in the AHL, as long as there was a sense that it was just a short term stepping stone.
Yay! MacTavish is back! Oh wait...
ReplyDeleteGagné can score a good 40-40. He's an elite guy. There's no way he should be on waivers. Gotta pick those up.
ReplyDelete(Cap screwed him 0_0)
[i live in seattle and listen to edmonton sports radio over the internet .. what is wrong with me?]
ReplyDeleteYou're a masochist.
[i live in seattle and listen to edmonton sports radio over the internet .. what is wrong with me?]
ReplyDeleteYou're a masochist.
OTC would have called him a rubbydub
Nice to hear smart things from the head coach in terms of development.
ReplyDeleteIts also really nice to hear smart thing from the organization in terms of player development.
It hasn't been discussed much here (or I missed it) but naming Billy Moores as the co-ordinator of player development was a very good move.
From what I understand (much like his title suggests) he will put the exisitng resources of the organization to work for the prospects where needed.
I'd imagine that Sillinger would be out in the field checking up and working with the prospects then would tell Moores what is needed to help each player and Moores would make it happen.
The worst part of the Oiler's organization since forever has been player development.
Really good to see v3.0 addressing that sad track record.
From all reports Moores is a perfect person for that role as well.
Nice work.
Well its good to hear. I think the Oilers have in the past recognized the value of leaving young D in the AHL to simmer.
ReplyDeleteI just think they get into trouble by having inferior depth and end up calling them out early before their first season is up ala Greene and Gilbert.
Will it be any different this season? Is Petry a November injury away from seeing NHL ice?
I'd be happy if I could see at least one of MPS or Eberle start out the season in the AHL. The mid-season mark in the AHL will be the greater indicator than the Training Camp to know if they are NHL ready. We've got the time, so why rush? The AHL isn't a step back for either of these players.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if both of them were in the Oilers roster by mid-season.
Btw, what does OTC stand for?
Sorry, went a little off track with that last post.
ReplyDeleteWhat would be the term of Gagne's contract if we picked him off waivers?
OTC = Old Time Coach (Quinn).
ReplyDeleteGreat post.. thanks for bring that to my attention, because it is quite encouraging...
ReplyDeleteloilfan - Gagne contract
ReplyDeleteA potential hitch in the giddyup of grabing Gagne off waivers with the thought of trading him at the deadline:
ReplyDelete2005 CBA 13.20 (b)
A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to another Club until the termination of the Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requested originally and the offer has been refused
If my CBAese is correct, if another club(s) puts in a waiver claim when (if) Gagne hits the waiver wire, they would get the right to trade for him first.
It really depends on "on the same terms" means here.
Does it maybe mean that any other club that put in for Gagne when he was originally on waivers would get a shot at him for free? I don't think so, as it doesn't state the player needs to be waived.
My best guess is that if the Oilers pluck Gagne then have an offer of a prospect for him at the deadline, the Oilers would have to first offer him to any and all other teams that put in for him when he was on waivers.
This also assumes that summer waivers count as 10/11 season.
Can someone with deeper knowledge chime in on this? Speeds? mc79?
WG - Sounds like all other teams that also wanted him have to turn him down for just the claiming fee before we can trade him.
ReplyDeleteHmmmm... Unsuccessful waiver claims persist until the end of the season.
I wonder if the claiming order used is the original one or based on the current standings at the time of the proposed trade.
ReplyDeleteYikes.
ReplyDeletePoor Cleveland fans tonight.
Can you imagine if Gretzky had arranged an hour-long TV special after weeks of speculation to reveal whether he would accept the trade to LA, and then casually announced that he was indeed leaving without a trace of emotion?
At least we had memories of 4 Cups to keep us warm at night. All Cleveland has is the frustration of unfulfilled promise and the bitter sting of betrayal.
I just can't beleive he's been there for seven years now. It seems like just yesterday he was a phenom high schooler getting ready to smash the NBA the first chance he got.
ReplyDeleteHe's been there 7 years? My god. Ribs, I'm in the same boat as you.
ReplyDeleteThat's tough news on the Gagne front. Too bad.
Renney was a top AHL coach, so at least he knows the development curve for young players.
ReplyDeletere Gagne: The chance Philadelphia waives him has got to be slight - the fans would riot, and the Flyers usually pay attention to it's fanbase.
Bankshot-
ReplyDeleteI guess it would depend on where the Oilers have Petry on the depth chart.
After the top 6 (Strudwick being #6) they've got Peckham, Chorney, Plante, Petiot, Petry, Motin.
Last year teams used an average of 8.4 D-men 9 or more games(Oilers used 12!)
So assuming they use 9, Peckham and 2 others will play.
There may be a buffer there for Petry of a player or 2.
Need to sign some more AHL / call-up type d-men
ReplyDeleteimo
A precursor of PUPS would have required the federal government to set standards for when to breed and how frequently to breed dogs. Currently the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) does not regulate breeding practices for any species regulated under the Act, and this would have set a dangerous precedent giving the federal government control over the breeding of domestic animals. No other species has a pre-breeding regulation in place.
ReplyDelete3" reach advantage said... "Need to sign some more AHL / call-up type d-men imo"
ReplyDeleteAccording to Ryan Rishaug they signed defenseman Jake Taylor this past week.
Has there ever been a player as good as Gagné waived?
ReplyDelete(At the moment he was waived, not after like Brière and etc)
Oh and his name has an é not an e =).
Given the waiver consequences why not offer a low pick or Cornet type prospect with the expectation he can be flipped for more later on?
ReplyDeleteNeeds less logic, more old-timey.
ReplyDeletefpv - Those funny e's are hard to make on an English keyboard.
ReplyDeletePoor Cleveland fans tonight.
ReplyDeleteYes, that has to be one of the most prickish things ever done. I think the NBA should have stopped it.
Then you get three free agents all jumping to one team to win a championship - I wish them the absolute worst of luck.
Needs less logic, more old-timey.
ReplyDeleteI'd imagine things might get kinda dull at C&B with so many correct moves being made.
So much less to write about.
At least Ben can still find fault with everything.
And we still have Khabby and JFJ.
For the record I was impressed with most of the C&B writers, especially coach with their unbiased takes on the moves v.30 has made.
ReplyDeleteCalling em as they seem em.
Interesting article about Riley Nash:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/rbh/comments/riley_nash_to_decide_soon_very_soon/
Seems the Canes are offering him a guaranteed spot as 3rd line C if he leaves Cornell. That could be fun to watch.
Thanks for the Nash info Dave.
ReplyDeleteApparently, its not about avoiding the Oilers farm system, but the AHL in general. Good thing we got something for him.
I can't imagine Nash being able to hold his head above water if he jumps straight into the NHL. The competition and schedule will kill him. Enjoy your horticulture degree Riley!
ReplyDeleteJudging by the economic data I've been getting the past few months, maintaining a large cap buffer is going to be healthy strategy over the next year.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea how revenues increased 2010 in a league with several struggling teams and a contracting economy, however I doubt they'll be able to perform the same accounting wizardry next summer.
I don't know if Bettman would allow the cap to decrease, but I cannot see how it can increase next summer.
I'm still stunned that the cap got Ponzied again this year, but next season looks even worse for revenues than the past two, at least in the USA, and likely the same in Canada.
In light of the above, a Gagne contract, if waived, might be okay sa he would be off the books next summer... but we should be vewy vewy careful about signing big game to long deals.
i could care a less at all about Riley Nash, Dave, and good riddance to him!!
ReplyDeleteAnd that includes Gagner.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Olczyk is as expert on economics as he is on the cap and CBA.
spoiler - the players had an option to raise the cap by 5% which they elected to do.
ReplyDeleteThe cap has likely been disconnected from the revenues. What it amounts to is the cap and contracts should not be denominated in dollars, but syn-bucks. Which are actually an individual players share of league revenues.
The escrow process reconciles syn-bucks back to dollars.
Wouldn't it make sense to follow the phoenix model from this past year? Last year they sent their top prospects to the AHl and let them play together, get minutes and not get killed. They then filled out their roster with solid NHler's and put together a decent team that was filled with guys on one year deals. One year deals are important because you have guys playing hard for a new deal, and if the team is sucking you have solid deadline trade pieces. Dominic Moore has went for a 2nd rd pick two deadlines in a row. I'd love to see the org actually take the slow approach and sign a few more vets and send all the kids but Hall to the minors. this might not be the best team in the world, but I would love to see this kind of lineup next year
ReplyDeleteHall-Horcoff-Hemsky
Penner-Gagner-Comrie(1yr)
Brule-Moore(1yr)-Pisani(1yr)
Jones-Fraser-Stortini
Whitney-Gilbert
Souray-Smid
Foster-Vandermeer(1 yr)
Bulin/Theodore(1 yr) (yes he is nothing special, but he's a vet that will come cheap and he is better then the kids)
That's 5 pieces you can look to deal at the deadline, and that veteran team will have a much better shot at the playoffs then anything else we can ice this year.
DBO: Barring some kind of miracle, the only one you're gonna flip in March is Moore. Vandermeer maybe.
ReplyDeleteThough I do like the concept.
Offer sheet alert!!! Offer sheet alert!!!
ReplyDeleteBobby Mac says SJ signs Hjalmarsson to 4yr 14 million offer sheet. 7 days to match.
I wonder if Doug Wilson called Stan Bowman to tell him it was coming ;-)
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ReplyDeleteI'm really glad that Chicago got it done last year. They are bleeding players left and right due to their cap constraints and I have trouble believing that their window was longer than last year. I don't think it reopens until they jettison Campbell and Huet, by trade, minors, or trade. I suppose it was all worth considering they did get the cup.
ReplyDeleteSJ will pretty tight to the cap if they land Hjalmarsson, think this inspires anyone to take a crack at Setoguchi at the edge of the 2nd round compensation bracket, roughly 3.05 mil?
ReplyDeleteSurely the Hawks are sewered if they match, no?
ReplyDeleteThey keep Hjamarsson, but lose everyone else....
Hall-Horcoff-Hemsky
ReplyDeletePenner-Gagner-Comrie(1yr)
Brule-Moore(1yr)-Pisani(1yr)
Jones-Fraser-Stortini
Whitney-Gilbert
Souray-Smid
Foster-Vandermeer(1 yr)
Bulin/Theodore(1 yr) (yes he is nothing special, but he's a vet that will come cheap and he is better then the kids)
That lineup would lose us Dubnyk, probably Peckham, and maybe JDD to waivers (unless you're pressboxing them, which doesn't make much sense to me).
I really wish someone would clear up the Peckham waiver issue. Did he magically pass through them last year ala Brule?
ReplyDeleteAny word on how his shoulder is holding up?
I really wish someone would clear up the Peckham waiver issue. Did he magically pass through them last year ala Brule?
ReplyDeleteSpeeds says he has to clear, and he is right more than a certain NHL AGM....
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ReplyDeleteSJ will pretty tight to the cap if they land Hjalmarsson, think this inspires anyone to take a crack at Setoguchi at the edge of the 2nd round compensation bracket, roughly 3.05 mil?
ReplyDeleteYes! Actually they need to do this while Burke's fat head is focused on Bobby Ryan.
Woodguy:
ReplyDeleteMy understanding is that he has to clear, based on my reading of the CBA, but also because Matt Lashoff was in the same situation, drafted one year earlier, and he had to clear waivers last fall.
Peckham's a bit different from most drafted players because he was an "old" 18 year old player when drafted (like Hall), which meant he only had to play one more CHL year before moving to the AHL (unlike Eberle, who had to play two).
Deano,
ReplyDeleteThere's very little explanation out there in the media that I can find, but it appears that on May 28, Bettman announced that league revenues were expected to come in at a 4% increase (due to the strength of $CAD?).
Was the league unwilling to raise the cap on that increase and thus the PA invoked the 5% escalator?
Did the League refuse to raise the cap because the PA was going to raise it one way or another, so the only way to keep it in-line with reality was to hold the league end flat?
I thought they weren't allowed to do that---that the League had to increase if revenue increased. If so, this tells me Bettman was wrong with his pre-lim figures, and league revenues were actually flat for 2009-10.
Doesn't it seem strange that a now integral part of the game doesn't deserve even 70 words in the press announcement?
Either way, it doesn't change my belief that there is a lot of downside risk in the economy right now. Much moreso than upside potential, and signing contracts should be conducted in that light.
Thanks speeds.
ReplyDeleteThe current salary cap requires a massive escrow. the NHL probably would have preferred keeping the cap flat and reduced the escrow. The players decided for the 5% cap escalator, which will mean a larger escrow.
ReplyDeletei.e. Because the escrow is currently so large, the value of the salary cap has little or nothing to do with league revenues at the moment. It is a somewhat arbitrary number.
The players have chosen to keep on increasing the cap and increasing the escrow.
The escrow is what about 15-20% now, which is ridiculous.
Looks like we've signed Ben Ondrus...another nice AHL vet / NHL tweener for OKC.
ReplyDeleteHe was captain of the Marlies, I believe.
Has there ever been a player as good as Gagné waived?
ReplyDeleteI'm a little late to the party FPB, but Curtis Joseph (and his 8-million dollar salary) was waived to make room for the return of Dom Hasek. Of course, he was eventually recalled, and both star goalies were summarily replaced by the surprising Manny Legace.
On the Sharks' offer sheet to Hjalmarsson (sp?), I think it's prime time to try and poach Setoguchi. Think he'd rather play with kids his age (2005 draft year puts him at Cogliano's age) than get second/third line duties in SJ behind an already established core of veterans?
Ondrus is a product of the vaunted Tofield Minor Hockey juggernaut.
ReplyDeletespoiler - The NHL is just a microcosm of the larger economy. There is a great deal of 'economic policy is reality' currently.
ReplyDeleteThe exchange rate between 'contract dollars' and 'revenue dollars' can't be figured out until the season is over.
Thanks Woodz, speeds. I won't be satisfied though until I hear it from the cap-sorcerer Olczyk.
ReplyDeleteTofield, geez. Did they ever put heaters in that damned rink? I remember half of my teammates getting their toes frostbit from sitting on the bench.
ReplyDeleteDeano,
ReplyDeleteReally? I had no idea.
;o)
Don't forget on player poaching of Setoguchi types folks, that teams can exceed the cap in the off-season. An offer sheet would not be a lock.
ReplyDeletespoiler - which statement is the sarcasm directed at:
ReplyDelete'policy is reality' or 'exchange rate calculations'
Apologies if I was offside.
Anyhoo... the 'policy is reality' scares the beejeesus outa me 'cause policy ain't reality and those guys don't know near as much as they want us to think they do. Which brings us back to your basic point about Count von Count (Bettman). Something smells off.
Deano,
ReplyDeleteI'm going to pat myself on the back cause I was predicting a cap increase all year.
Toronto, Montreal, NYR, Philly and Chicago run the NHL.
They all have piles of money they want to spend so the cap goes up.
The NHL does a very good job making the revenue streams very murky.
Its not quite that simple, but that's what it boils down to.
If Gagner of Phi is waived and Oilers get first crack at him, would we pick him up at half salary?
ReplyDeleteIs it not true that we could not trade him at the deadline for picks or whatever?
If so, would they work a deal with Burke to pass and let the Leafs get him
If we kept him would it be such a bad thing if it kept one of the rokies in Okla?
Deano said...
ReplyDeleteAnyhoo... the 'policy is reality' scares the beejeesus outa me 'cause policy ain't reality and those guys don't know near as much as they want us to think they do. Which brings us back to your basic point about Count von Count (Bettman). Something smells off.
A greed!
WG,
ReplyDeleteYeah, but none of that increase came from those teams, but from the PA escalator.
Anyone know that Marlie the Oil have just signed?
ReplyDeleteIf Gagner of Phi is waived and Oilers get first crack at him, would we pick him up at half salary?
ReplyDeleteNo, that's only for re-entry waivers (i.e. when a waiver-eligible player has been demoted and cleared waivers when doing so, and is now being recalled). I don't think anybody's talking about demoting Gagne, just waiving him like the Oilers did with Souray.
Maybe a dumb question...But why would the players not want the cap to go up?
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve!
ReplyDeleteTrue about the escalator, but if the revenues were not there wouldn't 100% of the increase just go to escrow?
ReplyDeleteSteve Serdachny just compared Petry's skating to Boumeister and was gushing about him on Gregor's show.
ReplyDeleteWow.
DBO: That doesn't seem like reconstruction. Phoenix's plan fucked up, partly because theyr rookies weren't strong enough to make the jump. They were 18, not 20, and did not have any indicator (By stats) that they could make the jump.
ReplyDeleteOurs got some things to back them up.
Oh and signing Pisani back is an error, any way you put it.
If the salary cap goes up, and revenues stay the same, then players who already have contracts get a pay cut, because escrow increases. That's why.
ReplyDeletei.e. Horcoff didn't earn $7 million last year. Because of escrow it was more like $6.5 million. With the cap going up another 5%, if NHL revenues are flat, escrow might go up 5%, and Horcoff might only earn $6.0 million.
Salary Cap x (1 - %escrow/100) == fixed percentage of league revenues
spOILer - Andrus has a fair size cup of coffee with the Leafs a couple or three years back, other than that he was in the minors
ReplyDeleteHeart and soul role player at the NHL level, a little smaller but always willing to drop them, takes the man, a bit chippy.
Just not good enough to win a regular NHL job but a nice pickup for the AHL club and he'll probably get some icetime with the Oilers I would think.
Guys... salary cap is an imaginary number when it all comes down to it.
ReplyDeleteIt could be $100,000,000.
Doesn't matter.
The players will get 54% of the revenue when it's all said and done.
That said.... it's obviously not going up more than 5%, so keeping some space so you can poach some decent players on the cheap (asset wise) next year certainly isn't a horrible idea.
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It'd be nice if Kovalchuk would make up his damn mind so the rest of the chips could fall.
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Zherdev for 1 year @ 2.0 is a ridiculous steal for Philly. I'm damn near positive he was playing the toughs for some time before he was shipped out and doing well while doing it, and he can make a PP hum too.
And if he's a cancer, it's 1 year and 2.0. Pretty easy to cut out, especially if you're Philly.
There's still lots of unsigned free agent talent out there with many teams done shopping.
ReplyDeleteHas it been this bad for veteran FA's in past years?
Spolier-
ReplyDeleteI agree, cap space is a great commodity to own. I think if used judiciously it should result in acquiring draft picks.
Ed-
ReplyDeleteGood point
Thanks godot. That makes sense.
ReplyDeleteThe NHL reported an increase of 4% in revenues last year.
ReplyDeleteBD: Idk, check out Ondrus' stats. Eve in the AHL he's a plumber.
ReplyDeleteRibs and Speeds -
ReplyDeleteThe way I read it Peckham does NOT have to clear waivers this year.
He played his 1st pro game in 2007-2008 at age 19 and therefore has 4 years waiver exemption (including that year).
2007-08 = 1
2008-09 = 2
2009-10 = 3
2010-11 = 4 (exempt this year)
maybe so fpb but as you know, or I hope you know after hanging around here for a while, you need plumbers to win
ReplyDeletehe'll help OKC win and he'll help teach the kids the right way to do things, you can never have enough veteran pros in your org., he's a good signing
Ben Ondrus: 52 NHL games, 0 goals.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the Oilers have a linemate for Jacques and MacIntyre.
BG: No no no. I don't doubt the AHL signing. Simply I don't think he'l wear actual Oil silk. Like Needle pointed out his track record beats Macyntire in the ''not scoring'' category. I'd rather see a kid get a cup of coffee instead. (Sometimes they can surprise, ALA Plante/O'marra.
ReplyDeletefpb - ah gotcha, I misunderstood
ReplyDeleteoh yeah Ondrus is going to be a Baron for the most part and if they're bringing up a guy to play fourth line minutes I'm all for O'Marra or McDonald myself. We'll likely see Ondrus for a couple of games is all I am saying much like Sestito came up a couple of years back.
@Pat: I don't get that logic. If you don't like the quality of the comments, why not try to improve them?
ReplyDeleteI dunno, I guess I just don't want to see a community come apart even more than it already has.
I think I was wrong on Peckham being waiver exempt.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like the timing of his first contract makes him waiver eligible. My bad.