
That's Bill White making sure big Peter Stemkowski doesn't get the puck. I've written about White before and in my memory banks he's a perfect example of a defensive defenseman. He arrived in the NHL at age 28, after enduring something just this side of Papillon. He played the game with calm feet and he was an important part of two famous hockey teams: the early '70s Blackhawks and the 1972 Team Canada.
He was a beauty.
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In my lifetime it has happened exactly twice: 2 Stanley-calibre teams getting shutout at the same time. They are the 1970-74 Chicago Blackhawks (lost two finals and three semi's in that span) and the 1971-74 New York Rangers (lost one final and three semi's). Later, the Boston Bruins and Philadelphia Flyers of the 1980's were also denied in similar fashion. The first two teams ran into the Bruins of Orr and the Habs of Dryden and all that defense; the second pair of teams ran into the Boys on the Bus.
This edition of the team looks more like the Dryden Habs or the Boys on the Bus. I think heartbreak may lie ahead for others this time around. The hockey Gods are just, it just takes them awhile.
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I'm surprised no one has written anything about Tommy Ivan. Ivan was a coach for the Detroit Red Wings (won 3 Stanley's there as coach) from 1947 to 1954. He then took over the Chicago Black Hawks as coach and GM, which at the time was like leaving the modern day Red Wings for the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Ivan became hockey's Branch Rickey, adding farm teams and procuring talent any way he could, and damned if Chicago didn't win the Stanley Cup in 1961. He was the General Manager by that time (the fractious Rudy Pilous was the coach at the time) and although the Hawks didn't win another Stanley under his watch they were always in the range (they were in five SCF's 1961-1973) considering this was not one of the NHL's lead franchises when he arrived in 1954 (they missed the playoffs 54-58).
Historically, Ivan has received much credit for the 1961 team but he also did a splendid job for the early 1970's club. Many words have been written about his ill-fated trade of Phil Esposito to the Bruins, but the return (Pit Martin, who became an outstanding 2-way center in the Windy City, Gilles Marotte, who struggled but was sent away for Bill White, and Jack Norris, who was a journeyman goaltender) wasn't completely unusable.
He grabbed Tony Esposito for nothing (from the Habs and Sam Pollock, which happened once in a blue moon); he picked up Jimmy Pappin one day when Punch Imlach was in a grumpy mood (which could have been any day now that I think about it) and he got the Hawks into the SCF the year AFTER Bobby Hull jumped to the WHA (1973). He also used the NCAA heavily, acquiring Keith Magnuson, Cliff Koroll and other quality players via that route when it was not a high priority for NHL clubs.
Someone should write something about Tommy Ivan. He was a helluva hockey man.
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I don't know who will win this Stanley Cup. I would like Chicago to win, but if the Flyers win the Stanley there are enough good people I know who are fans that it'll be fine by me. I don't think anyone can argue that these two franchises are due: one left a Stanley on the table in the early 1970's, the other left at least one in the late 1980's. I think my vote goes to the Bill White's, who edge the Brian Propp's by a decade and a little bit.
Go Black Hawks!
ReplyDeleteYou know another thing I hate about the Flyers?
They stole our name.
The Edmonton Flyers.
http://tinyurl.com/277gwdb
They're bastards.
Always were.
Even before Clark.
LT, i love that you were concerned that you weren't going to have time this weekend, so gave us the top 30 a few days early. But then, when i expect a weekend of mini posts, you bring out this history lesson. awesome.
ReplyDeleteBoth tenders are running hot streaks right now, but the forwards for each team are not even in the same categories. I think the Hawks are much more poised to exploit poor goaltending than the Flyers are. And Pronger can only play half the game.
ReplyDeleteGo Hawks.
IMO the Hawks have already beaten two teams that would have ousted Philly.
ReplyDeleteThis is the playoffs of upsets, no doubt, but CHI dispatched Vancouver and San Jose in relatively easy fashion.
If Philly had a western doppelganger, it would be Nashville, and they were a speedbump in the road for the Hawks.
I think Chicago wins it in 5. Possibly a sweep. Book it?
Anything can happen in a 7 game series. In a world of a thousand parallel universes, the Flyers will win the Cup in some of those realities, and possibly too in the one we share.
ReplyDeleteBut the Hawks are the better team and the odds should be in their favour. Overconfidence and the favourite talk maybe their biggest obstacle. They face greater expectations and thus greater pressure. But they should get it done, as long as the gods are on their side.
LT, seeing that Sakic scouting report was truly a delight. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteAbility to withstand pressure separates the great from the mere good players, and further separates the crap from the average players.
ReplyDeletePlayers like POS/Nilsson embody the latter, along with several others of the 2010 "team".
Sakic rose to the moment, in the manner that great players rise to the occasion.
I think the Hawks should win, but I pick the Flyers - who might(I said might) just be able to hammer the young arrogant Hawks into the ice.
Someone should write something about Tommy Ivan. He was a helluva hockey man.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think you just did. Interesting stuff.
Should we be worried that Tambellini didn't come back from the Worlds with a contract signed by young Brother Magnus? I'm thinking we're waiting until after the draft for a deal to be made now.
Ribs,
ReplyDeleteI think he has to offer them (Lander, MPS) contracts by June 1 or lose their rights.
"Lowe joked as a special going-away gift to Phillips the Oilers decided they wouldn’t bring Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson over from Sweden this season after all so Phillips wouldn’t have to worry about pronouncing his name in his last 10 games."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/columnists/terry_jones/2010/05/29/14181716.html
Anonymous: I think it was a joke, although they may in fact choose to bring him over next fall. There is NO reason to put off signing him, however.
ReplyDeleteCheering for the Hawks, wouldn't be bitter if Philly won.
ReplyDeleteIf I had a son and he asked me which NHL player to emulate, I'd tell him Jonathon Toews.
There is a lot to like about the way that young man plays hockey in every situation.
Ribs:
ReplyDeleteThe deadline with the transfer agreement to sign SWE players is apparently June 15th.
At least, if they are under contract in Sweden, not sure how or if the deadline applies provided Paajarvi and Lander are unsigned in SWE. Paajarvi is, I think, without contract over there, but I thought I'd read Lander was close to re-signing with Timra, not sure if he has as yet.
The corollary of Setting Free the Hawks would be The Snider House Rules, yes?
ReplyDeleteThe only problem is that Philly had to deal with the bears and Chicago was a complete abortion for decades, but close enough.
/arp
Art: Damn. That's way better.
ReplyDeleteI've got hockey in HD for the first time. Wow. Well worth the price tag.
ReplyDeleteBohologo: Isn't it? Changed hockey for me.
ReplyDeleteHD or not, I feel like I took a soak in a hot tub time machine and have gone back to an era when goals were not so hard to come by....
ReplyDeleteGo Hawks!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, on the out-of-town-scoreboard.
ReplyDeletePhillies 1, Marlins 0.
Florida sends 27 men to the plate. Halladay sits all 27 down.
Congrats to "Doc" for the 20th "el perfecto" in MLB history!
Thanks for clearing that up a bit, speeds. If MPS goes unsigned does that most likely mean that he'll be in Sweden for another year? Does he have to sign a SEL contract by that date to play in that league?
ReplyDeleteI'm just wondering what the hold up is here. Is there some kind of leverage the NHL contract brings when it comes to a Timra contract?
Hawks - Flyers game went down how I imagined it would. Crumbly goalers and a bunch of snipers on the ice means lots of scoring. Glad to see the Hawks on the good side of the see-saw.
I was impressed with the Flyers method of attack. They look like they are going into the corners/boards with the puck and dish it off in front just before they commit. They caught the young Hawks blue in the transition a few times.
I was more impressed with the Hawks depth. Just silly-good players on that team. Also noticing how much they use their boards to their advantage. I've always liked it when teams do that.
Pronger is still pretty damn good. The bastard.
Just a bit of trivia.. you mentioned goalie Jack Norris, but didn't mention he was an Oiler also. I think, if memory serves, he was the No. 1 goalie in their very first season, when they were the Alberta Oilers.
ReplyDeleteWell, Tambellini makes good and signs the lad. Good things.
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